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Bus driver stuck in snow was attacked during attempted robbery

2:41pm Monday 21st January 2013

Bus driver stuck in snow was attacked during attempted robbery

A bus driver attacked and punched in a attempted robbery while he was stuck in the snow

At about 11am on Friday, a single decker First bus was stopped behind another bus that was stuck in snow in Meggeson Avenue, Southampton.

A group of about 30 youths began pelting the vehicle with snowballs.

Then, about five of the group forced their way onto the bus, assaulted the 45-year-old driver and attempted unsuccessfully to take his bag.

The driver was punched in the face and repeatedly pelted with snowballs.

The youths involved in the assault are believed to be aged between 15 and 17.

They wore black hooded coats.

Local people went to the driver’s assistance, and the youths fled towards shops in Meggeson Avenue. The driver suffered minor injuries.

Detectives want to hear from witnesses and those who helped the driver. “This was the first day of snowy weather. Most people were out to enjoy it, but this group took advantage of the situation to commit crime,” said DC David Jackson.

“There were lots of people around and the time, and police need to speak to those people,” he said.

Anyone with information is asked to contact DC Jackson at Bitterne on 101.

Comments(28)

Comments(28)

The wickedsaint says...
3:14pm Mon 21 Jan 13

3 years ago in similar conditions, I was snowball attacked while walking up Meggeson avenue by about 8 youths of similar age. They do this as they know the police are pretty much immobilised with the amount of ice and won't catch them. Of course, after the snow and ice had gone, so had they. Come out you cowards - you're only hard enough when it's 8-1. They're never around in good conditions as they know they will be caught and taught a hard lesson!

Big Mac says...
3:15pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Simple response then, stop all bus services on that route. Not fair on fare paying passengers you may say, but wouldn't take long for the names of the little toe-rags to surface.

richieroo says...
3:27pm Mon 21 Jan 13

I wish the driver a speedy recovery (no pun intended)!.

MGRA says...
4:26pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Meggeson Avenue chav pond life for years have deserved to be followed by CCTV. There are cameras in Woolson, why not on that S**t estate ?

fireman9 says...
4:30pm Mon 21 Jan 13

I can relate to this attack, as i used to work for FirstBus and lieft after being aasaulted and punched too many times. I thought all these buses were fitted with anti-assault shields, so these attacks wouldn't happen. I wish the driver a speedy recovery and hope he will manage to return to work after the attack.

Subject48 says...
4:46pm Mon 21 Jan 13

These troops of baboons just nee a good beatdown. Round up a posse and go lynch their parents or something.

kenbaileysteeth says...
5:13pm Mon 21 Jan 13

There is a simple solution. Everytime it snows Meggeson Avenue is not cleared or gritted by the council despite being a main bus route. this used to be the case but the council have made it a B road and therefore no priority. Last year the youths were pulling open vehicle doors and snowballing the drivers. As usual no Police response anywhere.Put some Police into where we live so that we dont have to put up with these scum. And please grit the road so that we can get to work. I hope the council finally takes some action!!!

cliffwalker says...
5:41pm Mon 21 Jan 13

They should put a wall around this area and check people out and back in who can show good reason for going out (to work, to hospital, etc.) against their special Meggeson Avenue ID cards. Outsiders (busdrivers, delivery drivers, etc)should only be allowed in if they are accompanied by heavy security.

sofa_king_right says...
5:42pm Mon 21 Jan 13

arm bus drivers, and let them shoot chavs

Donald2000 says...
5:42pm Mon 21 Jan 13

My impression of this council is that it would rather pick on law abiding citizens rather than stick their necks out on non law abiding citizens, like chavistas who want to beat up bus drivers. I hope the police find the scum who did this and treat them harshly but in the meantime stop giving people social housing whom you know are going to cause trouble would be my advice to this rather silly council.

sotonbev says...
5:46pm Mon 21 Jan 13

What a bunch of morons, don't worry bus driver there were plenty of witnesses so hopefully it wont be long until these stupid little boys are caught.

Lockssmart says...
6:10pm Mon 21 Jan 13

MGRA wrote:
Meggeson Avenue chav pond life for years have deserved to be followed by CCTV. There are cameras in Woolson, why not on that S**t estate ?
God has spoken

userds5050 says...
7:26pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Feral scum.

Donald2000 says...
7:37pm Mon 21 Jan 13

The wickedsaint wrote:
3 years ago in similar conditions, I was snowball attacked while walking up Meggeson avenue by about 8 youths of similar age. They do this as they know the police are pretty much immobilised with the amount of ice and won't catch them. Of course, after the snow and ice had gone, so had they. Come out you cowards - you're only hard enough when it's 8-1. They're never around in good conditions as they know they will be caught and taught a hard lesson!
The police are not immobilised whatsoever; they have a variety of 4*4 vehicles which they can utilise for these sorts of shouts and volunteers who they can call on to supply 4*4 otherwise; so that's an excuse which does not hold water. The council need to be evicting these families which give rise to these types of scum but they are just not doing it and instead are spending their time victimising those of us who are respectable law abiding citizens by imposing the scum on us.

The wickedsaint says...
7:57pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Donald2000 wrote:
The wickedsaint wrote:
3 years ago in similar conditions, I was snowball attacked while walking up Meggeson avenue by about 8 youths of similar age. They do this as they know the police are pretty much immobilised with the amount of ice and won't catch them. Of course, after the snow and ice had gone, so had they. Come out you cowards - you're only hard enough when it's 8-1. They're never around in good conditions as they know they will be caught and taught a hard lesson!
The police are not immobilised whatsoever; they have a variety of 4*4 vehicles which they can utilise for these sorts of shouts and volunteers who they can call on to supply 4*4 otherwise; so that's an excuse which does not hold water. The council need to be evicting these families which give rise to these types of scum but they are just not doing it and instead are spending their time victimising those of us who are respectable law abiding citizens by imposing the scum on us.
Donald2000 - I'm well aware of the vehicles available to the police however, on the occasion I mention, nothing was moving anywhere due to the ice.

Big Mac says...
8:21pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Tar and feather the little feckers

Donald2000 says...
8:35pm Mon 21 Jan 13

The wickedsaint wrote:
Donald2000 wrote:
The wickedsaint wrote:
3 years ago in similar conditions, I was snowball attacked while walking up Meggeson avenue by about 8 youths of similar age. They do this as they know the police are pretty much immobilised with the amount of ice and won't catch them. Of course, after the snow and ice had gone, so had they. Come out you cowards - you're only hard enough when it's 8-1. They're never around in good conditions as they know they will be caught and taught a hard lesson!
The police are not immobilised whatsoever; they have a variety of 4*4 vehicles which they can utilise for these sorts of shouts and volunteers who they can call on to supply 4*4 otherwise; so that's an excuse which does not hold water. The council need to be evicting these families which give rise to these types of scum but they are just not doing it and instead are spending their time victimising those of us who are respectable law abiding citizens by imposing the scum on us.
Donald2000 - I'm well aware of the vehicles available to the police however, on the occasion I mention, nothing was moving anywhere due to the ice.
This is a circular argument.I have just said that the police have 4*4 vehicles available to them for these kinds of shouts. You have just said that nothing was moving due to the ice. Which part of 4*4 vehicles available for these kinds of shouts did you not understand? I will repeat it so that you understand - the police have a variety of vehicles (4*4 are examples) which are capable of sustaining icy weather. Let's hope that the message gets through this time.

kenbaileysteeth says...
9:17pm Mon 21 Jan 13

This whole situation would have been avoided if the council had gritted and cleared the snow. It was 4" of snow not 4 feet !!. This would also have enabled the Police to resond quickly and safely. As residents not only do we have to put of with these lawless people that the Police seem to make no effort to deal with. Why are we stranded unable to drive to work everytime that it snows??. And on a more important note if nothing was moving due to ice then we were also stranded from all emergency response. Does someone have to die or get seriously injured before the council takes its responsibilties seriously????

Donald2000 says...
9:28pm Mon 21 Jan 13

kenbaileysteeth wrote:
This whole situation would have been avoided if the council had gritted and cleared the snow. It was 4" of snow not 4 feet !!. This would also have enabled the Police to resond quickly and safely. As residents not only do we have to put of with these lawless people that the Police seem to make no effort to deal with. Why are we stranded unable to drive to work everytime that it snows??. And on a more important note if nothing was moving due to ice then we were also stranded from all emergency response. Does someone have to die or get seriously injured before the council takes its responsibilties seriously????
I can let you know that this council does not give a monkey's about lawless tenants. Only the other day I was on a council property where a tenant was sitting about flicking lighted matches, probably in the hope of burning it down. I hope the council are reading this and are gaining knowledge of what scum they are putting into their properties at the expense of good tenants.

chunky_lover says...
9:28pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Better to simply cut off the benefits to these estates so they starve.

Big Mac says...
9:45pm Mon 21 Jan 13

chunky_lover wrote:
Better to simply cut off the benefits to these estates so they starve.
5 pot noodles for £1 says they won't even without the handouts

The wickedsaint says...
10:01pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Donald2000 wrote:
The wickedsaint wrote:
Donald2000 wrote:
The wickedsaint wrote:
3 years ago in similar conditions, I was snowball attacked while walking up Meggeson avenue by about 8 youths of similar age. They do this as they know the police are pretty much immobilised with the amount of ice and won't catch them. Of course, after the snow and ice had gone, so had they. Come out you cowards - you're only hard enough when it's 8-1. They're never around in good conditions as they know they will be caught and taught a hard lesson!
The police are not immobilised whatsoever; they have a variety of 4*4 vehicles which they can utilise for these sorts of shouts and volunteers who they can call on to supply 4*4 otherwise; so that's an excuse which does not hold water. The council need to be evicting these families which give rise to these types of scum but they are just not doing it and instead are spending their time victimising those of us who are respectable law abiding citizens by imposing the scum on us.
Donald2000 - I'm well aware of the vehicles available to the police however, on the occasion I mention, nothing was moving anywhere due to the ice.
This is a circular argument.I have just said that the police have 4*4 vehicles available to them for these kinds of shouts. You have just said that nothing was moving due to the ice. Which part of 4*4 vehicles available for these kinds of shouts did you not understand? I will repeat it so that you understand - the police have a variety of vehicles (4*4 are examples) which are capable of sustaining icy weather. Let's hope that the message gets through this time.
No repeat necessary but maybe I need to repeat to you - NOTHING WAS MOVING. Police vehicles at the time weren't able to tackle the road ice. Do they have a tank or other tracked vehicle? How's about a helicopter, I know they have one of those. ..

The wickedsaint says...
10:01pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Donald2000 wrote:
The wickedsaint wrote:
Donald2000 wrote:
The wickedsaint wrote:
3 years ago in similar conditions, I was snowball attacked while walking up Meggeson avenue by about 8 youths of similar age. They do this as they know the police are pretty much immobilised with the amount of ice and won't catch them. Of course, after the snow and ice had gone, so had they. Come out you cowards - you're only hard enough when it's 8-1. They're never around in good conditions as they know they will be caught and taught a hard lesson!
The police are not immobilised whatsoever; they have a variety of 4*4 vehicles which they can utilise for these sorts of shouts and volunteers who they can call on to supply 4*4 otherwise; so that's an excuse which does not hold water. The council need to be evicting these families which give rise to these types of scum but they are just not doing it and instead are spending their time victimising those of us who are respectable law abiding citizens by imposing the scum on us.
Donald2000 - I'm well aware of the vehicles available to the police however, on the occasion I mention, nothing was moving anywhere due to the ice.
This is a circular argument.I have just said that the police have 4*4 vehicles available to them for these kinds of shouts. You have just said that nothing was moving due to the ice. Which part of 4*4 vehicles available for these kinds of shouts did you not understand? I will repeat it so that you understand - the police have a variety of vehicles (4*4 are examples) which are capable of sustaining icy weather. Let's hope that the message gets through this time.
No repeat necessary but maybe I need to repeat to you - NOTHING WAS MOVING. Police vehicles at the time weren't able to tackle the road ice. Do they have a tank or other tracked vehicle? How's about a helicopter, I know they have one of those. ..

Donald2000 says...
11:09pm Mon 21 Jan 13

The wickedsaint wrote:
Donald2000 wrote:
The wickedsaint wrote:
Donald2000 wrote:
The wickedsaint wrote:
3 years ago in similar conditions, I was snowball attacked while walking up Meggeson avenue by about 8 youths of similar age. They do this as they know the police are pretty much immobilised with the amount of ice and won't catch them. Of course, after the snow and ice had gone, so had they. Come out you cowards - you're only hard enough when it's 8-1. They're never around in good conditions as they know they will be caught and taught a hard lesson!
The police are not immobilised whatsoever; they have a variety of 4*4 vehicles which they can utilise for these sorts of shouts and volunteers who they can call on to supply 4*4 otherwise; so that's an excuse which does not hold water. The council need to be evicting these families which give rise to these types of scum but they are just not doing it and instead are spending their time victimising those of us who are respectable law abiding citizens by imposing the scum on us.
Donald2000 - I'm well aware of the vehicles available to the police however, on the occasion I mention, nothing was moving anywhere due to the ice.
This is a circular argument.I have just said that the police have 4*4 vehicles available to them for these kinds of shouts. You have just said that nothing was moving due to the ice. Which part of 4*4 vehicles available for these kinds of shouts did you not understand? I will repeat it so that you understand - the police have a variety of vehicles (4*4 are examples) which are capable of sustaining icy weather. Let's hope that the message gets through this time.
No repeat necessary but maybe I need to repeat to you - NOTHING WAS MOVING. Police vehicles at the time weren't able to tackle the road ice. Do they have a tank or other tracked vehicle? How's about a helicopter, I know they have one of those. ..
You mean to say to me that the ice was so bad that no police vehicle was able to get to Meggeson Avenue? I find that incredible to think about but if that's your finding I will accept it. In which case we need to look at the council to find out why they were not gritting this quite important road, so that crime was able to take place?

The wickedsaint says...
4:38am Tue 22 Jan 13

Donald2000 wrote:
The wickedsaint wrote:
Donald2000 wrote:
The wickedsaint wrote:
Donald2000 wrote:
The wickedsaint wrote:
3 years ago in similar conditions, I was snowball attacked while walking up Meggeson avenue by about 8 youths of similar age. They do this as they know the police are pretty much immobilised with the amount of ice and won't catch them. Of course, after the snow and ice had gone, so had they. Come out you cowards - you're only hard enough when it's 8-1. They're never around in good conditions as they know they will be caught and taught a hard lesson!
The police are not immobilised whatsoever; they have a variety of 4*4 vehicles which they can utilise for these sorts of shouts and volunteers who they can call on to supply 4*4 otherwise; so that's an excuse which does not hold water. The council need to be evicting these families which give rise to these types of scum but they are just not doing it and instead are spending their time victimising those of us who are respectable law abiding citizens by imposing the scum on us.
Donald2000 - I'm well aware of the vehicles available to the police however, on the occasion I mention, nothing was moving anywhere due to the ice.
This is a circular argument.I have just said that the police have 4*4 vehicles available to them for these kinds of shouts. You have just said that nothing was moving due to the ice. Which part of 4*4 vehicles available for these kinds of shouts did you not understand? I will repeat it so that you understand - the police have a variety of vehicles (4*4 are examples) which are capable of sustaining icy weather. Let's hope that the message gets through this time.
No repeat necessary but maybe I need to repeat to you - NOTHING WAS MOVING. Police vehicles at the time weren't able to tackle the road ice. Do they have a tank or other tracked vehicle? How's about a helicopter, I know they have one of those. ..
You mean to say to me that the ice was so bad that no police vehicle was able to get to Meggeson Avenue? I find that incredible to think about but if that's your finding I will accept it. In which case we need to look at the council to find out why they were not gritting this quite important road, so that crime was able to take place?
Yes Donald2000, all vehicles were stranded. Even new landrovers couldn't get up the ice - as you may know, a lot of Meggeson Avenue is uphill. Even a vehicle with snow chains was going sideways and then back down. I was walking home at the time having had to abandon my car for 2 days about half a mile away due to the ice. Gritting by that time was out of the question as it was too late due to the amount of ice and darkness almost upon us. The gritter or any vehicle would have ploughed into many of the abandoned vehicles. 4x4 with metal spiked tyres may have had a chance, but skill would have been required to get past all the abandoned vehicles which includes a few FIRST buses at the top near the Townhill Way roundabout junction.

The wickedsaint says...
4:56am Tue 22 Jan 13

Donald2000 wrote:
The wickedsaint wrote:
Donald2000 wrote:
The wickedsaint wrote:
Donald2000 wrote:
The wickedsaint wrote:
3 years ago in similar conditions, I was snowball attacked while walking up Meggeson avenue by about 8 youths of similar age. They do this as they know the police are pretty much immobilised with the amount of ice and won't catch them. Of course, after the snow and ice had gone, so had they. Come out you cowards - you're only hard enough when it's 8-1. They're never around in good conditions as they know they will be caught and taught a hard lesson!
The police are not immobilised whatsoever; they have a variety of 4*4 vehicles which they can utilise for these sorts of shouts and volunteers who they can call on to supply 4*4 otherwise; so that's an excuse which does not hold water. The council need to be evicting these families which give rise to these types of scum but they are just not doing it and instead are spending their time victimising those of us who are respectable law abiding citizens by imposing the scum on us.
Donald2000 - I'm well aware of the vehicles available to the police however, on the occasion I mention, nothing was moving anywhere due to the ice.
This is a circular argument.I have just said that the police have 4*4 vehicles available to them for these kinds of shouts. You have just said that nothing was moving due to the ice. Which part of 4*4 vehicles available for these kinds of shouts did you not understand? I will repeat it so that you understand - the police have a variety of vehicles (4*4 are examples) which are capable of sustaining icy weather. Let's hope that the message gets through this time.
No repeat necessary but maybe I need to repeat to you - NOTHING WAS MOVING. Police vehicles at the time weren't able to tackle the road ice. Do they have a tank or other tracked vehicle? How's about a helicopter, I know they have one of those. ..
You mean to say to me that the ice was so bad that no police vehicle was able to get to Meggeson Avenue? I find that incredible to think about but if that's your finding I will accept it. In which case we need to look at the council to find out why they were not gritting this quite important road, so that crime was able to take place?
Donald2000, correct. People had to abandon cars wherever they could and a lot were at random in the road. Meggeson Avenue is mostly uphill (or downhill, whichever way you come). A couple of buses were abandoned at the top near the roundabout junction with Townhill Way. A 4x4 with metal spikes or a tracked vehicle would have done it. I had to abandon my car about half a mile away which is why I found myself walking when I came across the little tossers throwing snowballs at me of which only 2 hit. I then walked backwards uphill to dodge the incoming projectiles. I think the bus drivers had a very long walk home. No one could drive to collect them. Gritting by then would have been pointless as the ice had covered all roads nearby and it was approaching darkness and getting colder.

The wickedsaint says...
5:01am Tue 22 Jan 13

Thanks Daily Echo for not putting up my comment and my then putting that one and my replacement comment!!

Donald2000 says...
7:29am Tue 22 Jan 13

@thewickedsaint. Thank you for putting me right on the state of the roads round there. Your comments have been most helpful.

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