Echo Sport
Pochettino planning Spanish raid?
7:43am Wednesday 23rd January 2013


NEW Saints boss Mauricio Pochettino is expected to return to Espanyol as he seeks to make an impact at St Mary’s.
The Argentine, pictured right, was in charge of the La Liga Club for three and a half years prior to his sacking last November.
And Spanish sources have told the Daily Echo that Pochettino could turn his interest to several of his former players.
Among them is attacking midfielder Joan Verdu, who has been Espanyol’s best player this season by some distance, and on loan striker Samuel Longo.
And Pochettino is also being linked back in Spain with his former Espanyol loanee midfielder Phillipe Coutinho.
The Brazilian youngster, 20, was previously linked with Saints earlier this month when Nigel Adkins was still in charge.
Coutinho – said to be on the verge of joining Liverpool from Milan – played the second half of last season on loan to Espanyol. Despite being a selling club, Espanyol are expected to be very keen to hang onto prize asset Verdu, whose contract expires this summer.
A product of Barcelona’s youth system, the 29-year-old was signed by Pochettino from La Coruna in the summer of 2009.
Verdu has scored six goals in 20 appearances this season, compared to scoring only five goals in each of his previous two campaigns under Pochettino.
The new Saints manager also sanctioned the loan signing of Longo from Inter Milan last summer.
But with Espanyol’s main striker Sergio García back following a lengthy injury layoffs, Longo has not featured recently, much to Inter’s annoyance.
Inter are believed to be keen on recalling the Italian Under 21 international – but only with a view to finding a new club.
Boca Juniors forward Nicolas Blandi is also believed to be close to joining Espanyol, pushing Longo further down the pecking order.
Sources have also told the Echo that Pochettino could be interested in his former Espanyol keeper Carlos Kameni.
He is rated as one of the best shot-stoppers in the Spanish league and has been capped 70 times by Cameroon.
Kameni left under a cloud last January, citing a lack of ambition from the club.
However, the excellent form of Wily Caballero means he’s been forced to play back-up at Málaga.
Pochettino has also been linked to Anderlecht’s versatile Argentine defensive midfielder Lucas Biglia.
Arsenal are believed to have been monitoring the 26-year-old, who is rated in the £8m category.
Comments(86)
SaintMax
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8:11am Wed 23 Jan 13
All exciting stuff, this is certainly putting us into the European spotlight.
St.Yorkie
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8:12am Wed 23 Jan 13
I know there are several factors to consider - but we already have a very large proportion of non-British players in our team. Are we saying they aren't good enough?
I know British players are expensive - but are we just going to buy success? By success I mean conquer Europe?
I love watching talented footballers - especially in a Saints shirt, but there is part of me that says it's wrong to have 11-non British players representing our club!
SO50 Saint
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8:15am Wed 23 Jan 13
City Saint
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8:16am Wed 23 Jan 13
With solid management, the squad we have now has proven it can keep us up.
I suspect jay rod might get moved on to make space for the likes of Longo if those deals shape up.
And Mayuka needs a good African Nations Cup run to rediscover his form, else he might also be cuckolded.
Sir Rickie has at least one more season in the top flight in him if he can stay fit, maybe two.
Lockssmart
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8:21am Wed 23 Jan 13
OSPREYSAINT
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8:23am Wed 23 Jan 13
DUBAI-SAINT
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8:24am Wed 23 Jan 13
OSPREYSAINT
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8:29am Wed 23 Jan 13
Little Hitler
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8:31am Wed 23 Jan 13
St.Yorkie wrote:We all know Cortese's vision, which is to develop the best young players in the country. Even now, I'd wager that we have more British players in our side than most Premier League sides. We're also fielding one of the youngest starting 11s at present.
I'm not really Xenophobic but...I know we can't wait for all the academy lads to mature into Premier League footballers, but do we have to have the anticipated influx of Spanish, South American and Italians?
I know there are several factors to consider - but we already have a very large proportion of non-British players in our team. Are we saying they aren't good enough?
I know British players are expensive - but are we just going to buy success? By success I mean conquer Europe?
I love watching talented footballers - especially in a Saints shirt, but there is part of me that says it's wrong to have 11-non British players representing our club!
However, it will take some years for the real benefit of our new acadamy set-up to pay dividens. In the meantime I'm quite happy for us to bring in carefully selected / quality players from the continent.
three halves
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8:31am Wed 23 Jan 13
St.Yorkie
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8:33am Wed 23 Jan 13
Not saying it's gone (or even going) but replacing some of the people that make the dressing room tick for example may be negative!
Perhaps they better think about Esperanto lessons for the team?
st.athan saint
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8:45am Wed 23 Jan 13
OSPREYSAINT wrote:hasn't he signed for bradford city ?
We have yet to let anyone go, some of the peripheral players need to be given the opportunity to play football, too many Ryan Dickson situations must be a drain on the wage bill.
Strasbourg Saint
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8:45am Wed 23 Jan 13
St.Yorkie wrote:I understand your concerns, Yorkie but I'm unsure whether or not they mirror mine.
I'm not really Xenophobic but...I know we can't wait for all the academy lads to mature into Premier League footballers, but do we have to have the anticipated influx of Spanish, South American and Italians?
I know there are several factors to consider - but we already have a very large proportion of non-British players in our team. Are we saying they aren't good enough?
I know British players are expensive - but are we just going to buy success? By success I mean conquer Europe?
I love watching talented footballers - especially in a Saints shirt, but there is part of me that says it's wrong to have 11-non British players representing our club!
Frankly, I don't care what nationality, religion, colour or first language a player (or manager) is/has. My only concerns are these.
1. They are the best person for the job .... within the limits of available funds.
So, I wouldn't want us to go down the Chelsea/Man City route. It's time football finance was checked so that only money generated through the club (or affordable loans) can be used to run a club. Having attacked PFC for following a somewhat different route, I'm certainly not going to defend any irresponsible overspending by Saints. I can't see the Leibherrs or the Don allowing that, though.
2. New players/staff understand the importance of the club's ethos. That is, they come to built on the 'good' things which were evident during the times of Ted Bates, Paine and Channon and continued through to Matt, Franny, Doddsy etc. It got a bit lost during the dark years but we have seen it return under Markus, Nicola, Pards and Nigel.
Players like Kelvin, Rickie and Spiderman embody it today, it's evident in the youth structure and I for one don't want the club to move away from it.
New players (and here's the rub), especially from overseas, may need time to understand this but it really is an important part of being a Saint.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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8:46am Wed 23 Jan 13
three halves wrote:Idiot
At least he will speak the same language as the players he brings in.
three halves
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8:48am Wed 23 Jan 13
Over the last ten years they have changed the face of the game.
A fair number have been top players and improved the quality of the game but some clubs are filled with cheap imports instead of using British players which is a sad reflection of the way the game has gone.
warrens 76
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8:49am Wed 23 Jan 13
This time next year Rodney we WILL be billionaires..in Europe from fair play anyway.
Strasbourg Saint
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9:02am Wed 23 Jan 13
three halves wrote:B0ll0cks! Every foreign player (including Scots and Irish) playing in England (and Wales) creates a space for and English (or Welsh) player elsewhere. If they are good enough, they can do what Joe Cole and Nutter Barton did and look globally.
The number of foreign players in the Premier league is madness.
Over the last ten years they have changed the face of the game.
A fair number have been top players and improved the quality of the game but some clubs are filled with cheap imports instead of using British players which is a sad reflection of the way the game has gone.
I'd go further, if I was the Don, I'd be looking to send some of our top young players overseas.
Imagine the character building opportunities. Having read several of Spiderman's interviews produced here in Strasbourg, it's clear that his move to England has not only helped him develop as a player but as a man. So, let's get young Stephens, Reeves and co playing regularly in the European leagues (i.e. Portugal and France). They'll come back better for it - as players and men.
Puddletown Saint
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9:07am Wed 23 Jan 13
Strasbourg Saint wrote:I am with St Yorkie. I cannot wait to see some fantastic Spanish players coming in but do not want us to end up like Arsenal Chelski or Man City with all overseas players. We are an English team and must have a spine of quality English players.
St.Yorkie wrote:I understand your concerns, Yorkie but I'm unsure whether or not they mirror mine.
I'm not really Xenophobic but...I know we can't wait for all the academy lads to mature into Premier League footballers, but do we have to have the anticipated influx of Spanish, South American and Italians?
I know there are several factors to consider - but we already have a very large proportion of non-British players in our team. Are we saying they aren't good enough?
I know British players are expensive - but are we just going to buy success? By success I mean conquer Europe?
I love watching talented footballers - especially in a Saints shirt, but there is part of me that says it's wrong to have 11-non British players representing our club!
Frankly, I don't care what nationality, religion, colour or first language a player (or manager) is/has. My only concerns are these.
1. They are the best person for the job .... within the limits of available funds.
So, I wouldn't want us to go down the Chelsea/Man City route. It's time football finance was checked so that only money generated through the club (or affordable loans) can be used to run a club. Having attacked PFC for following a somewhat different route, I'm certainly not going to defend any irresponsible overspending by Saints. I can't see the Leibherrs or the Don allowing that, though.
2. New players/staff understand the importance of the club's ethos. That is, they come to built on the 'good' things which were evident during the times of Ted Bates, Paine and Channon and continued through to Matt, Franny, Doddsy etc. It got a bit lost during the dark years but we have seen it return under Markus, Nicola, Pards and Nigel.
Players like Kelvin, Rickie and Spiderman embody it today, it's evident in the youth structure and I for one don't want the club to move away from it.
New players (and here's the rub), especially from overseas, may need time to understand this but it really is an important part of being a Saint.
My fear is the likes of Shaw Cork and Adam to be sold for these flair players to come in. COYR
OSPREYSAINT
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9:09am Wed 23 Jan 13
st.athan saint wrote:Yes I was using him as an example.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:hasn't he signed for bradford city ?
We have yet to let anyone go, some of the peripheral players need to be given the opportunity to play football, too many Ryan Dickson situations must be a drain on the wage bill.
TSS
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9:19am Wed 23 Jan 13
three halves
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9:20am Wed 23 Jan 13
Strasbourg Saint wrote:I guess your comment is tongue in cheek as thats the way i perceive it and i do find it very amusing.
three halves wrote:B0ll0cks! Every foreign player (including Scots and Irish) playing in England (and Wales) creates a space for and English (or Welsh) player elsewhere. If they are good enough, they can do what Joe Cole and Nutter Barton did and look globally.
The number of foreign players in the Premier league is madness.
Over the last ten years they have changed the face of the game.
A fair number have been top players and improved the quality of the game but some clubs are filled with cheap imports instead of using British players which is a sad reflection of the way the game has gone.
I'd go further, if I was the Don, I'd be looking to send some of our top young players overseas.
Imagine the character building opportunities. Having read several of Spiderman's interviews produced here in Strasbourg, it's clear that his move to England has not only helped him develop as a player but as a man. So, let's get young Stephens, Reeves and co playing regularly in the European leagues (i.e. Portugal and France). They'll come back better for it - as players and men.
andy newbury
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9:23am Wed 23 Jan 13
OSPREYSAINT
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9:27am Wed 23 Jan 13
OSPREYSAINT wrote:I notice that he wasn't even on the bench yesterday.
st.athan saint wrote:Yes I was using him as an example.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:hasn't he signed for bradford city ?
We have yet to let anyone go, some of the peripheral players need to be given the opportunity to play football, too many Ryan Dickson situations must be a drain on the wage bill.
SO50 Saint
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9:32am Wed 23 Jan 13
SaintMax
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9:33am Wed 23 Jan 13
Why are quite alot of people in here always moaning, always finding something negative to winge about.
If we got into Europe next season and the likes of Bayern or Madrid came to St Marys you would be clapping your hands off!
IMO you can not compete in Europe, or even this league without a blend of talented young English players and skillful global players.
Bl oo dy cheer up some of you..
SaintMax
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9:35am Wed 23 Jan 13
Strasbourg Saint wrote:Like Strasie
three halves wrote:B0ll0cks! Every foreign player (including Scots and Irish) playing in England (and Wales) creates a space for and English (or Welsh) player elsewhere. If they are good enough, they can do what Joe Cole and Nutter Barton did and look globally.
The number of foreign players in the Premier league is madness.
Over the last ten years they have changed the face of the game.
A fair number have been top players and improved the quality of the game but some clubs are filled with cheap imports instead of using British players which is a sad reflection of the way the game has gone.
I'd go further, if I was the Don, I'd be looking to send some of our top young players overseas.
Imagine the character building opportunities. Having read several of Spiderman's interviews produced here in Strasbourg, it's clear that his move to England has not only helped him develop as a player but as a man. So, let's get young Stephens, Reeves and co playing regularly in the European leagues (i.e. Portugal and France). They'll come back better for it - as players and men.
Bring back Branfoot
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9:40am Wed 23 Jan 13
three halves wrote:But look at the standard of the Premier league. Technically some would say that the La Liga is better, but for entertainment value, most, that I meet, prefer our league. Foreign imports have raised the bar considerably.
The number of foreign players in the Premier league is madness.
Over the last ten years they have changed the face of the game.
A fair number have been top players and improved the quality of the game but some clubs are filled with cheap imports instead of using British players which is a sad reflection of the way the game has gone.
A lot of managers look abroad because most of our talent is overpriced. So the market ends up dictating where clubs go looking for talent, in this case abroad.
I agree that some imports are seen as duds on big wages, but most still represent their country at international level, and some have struggled here and moved onto pastures new and done really well, Diego Forlan being the perfect example.
rednwhite72
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9:43am Wed 23 Jan 13
Sainty saint saint
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9:56am Wed 23 Jan 13
1. Pocchetino states in an interview with Sky that he;ll be looking to the academy first, but then towards Spain as that's the market he knows best (or words to that effect), so I don't think we need to worry too much about being 'overrun by foreigners'.
2. Bit unfair (and scaremongering) to moan about Chelsea and Man City having 'all overseas players'. Off the top of my head Chelsea have Cole, Terry, Lampard, Bertrand, Cahill, Moses. Man City have Barry, Hart, Milner, Lescott, Richards, Rodwell, (Sinclair). Even Arsenal (that terrible foreign team) have Gibbs, Wilshere, Ramsey, Walcott, the Ox, Jenkinson.
Clever Dick
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9:57am Wed 23 Jan 13
OSPREYSAINT wrote:I think we may be having trouble getting rid of players because they are on good money that most C/ship sides can't match. It's the unfortunate price we are paying for being able to pay bigger wages due to our bigger attendances in the lower leagues. Fortunately a number of these are getting toward the end of their contracts and will simply move on for free when the time comes. It's probably why so many have gone out on loan.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:I notice that he wasn't even on the bench yesterday.
st.athan saint wrote:Yes I was using him as an example.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:hasn't he signed for bradford city ?
We have yet to let anyone go, some of the peripheral players need to be given the opportunity to play football, too many Ryan Dickson situations must be a drain on the wage bill.
Jesus_02
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10:01am Wed 23 Jan 13
St.Yorkie wrote:I don’t think its Xenophobia, its common sense really, and it’s natural to worry.
I'm not really Xenophobic but...I know we can't wait for all the academy lads to mature into Premier League footballers, but do we have to have the anticipated influx of Spanish, South American and Italians? I know there are several factors to consider - but we already have a very large proportion of non-British players in our team. Are we saying they aren't good enough? I know British players are expensive - but are we just going to buy success? By success I mean conquer Europe? I love watching talented footballers - especially in a Saints shirt, but there is part of me that says it's wrong to have 11-non British players representing our club!
However, I can’t see the club investing all that money in the academy and training facilities, only to tread the same path as Portsmouth.
For anything to grow it needs roots, our academy is just that. Cortese may be ruthlessly ambitious but he is no fool
Bring back Branfoot
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10:02am Wed 23 Jan 13
SaintMax wrote:This guy has hit the nail on the head, look at the National team, it perfectly reflects where we stand, talent wise. Although I think the problem with the players in our national side has also been a question of charchter. Even when we had a quality side ten years ago, they simply capitulate when the stakes are raised. The players seem to lack the back bone we see in other national sides to be winners at international level. Psychology and strength of character is never better demonstrated than with penalties!
Unfortunately a pure English team wouldnt cut it, look how bad our national side is. Also a blend of technically skilled european players will have a huge effect on our own youngsters confidence and ability.
Why are quite alot of people in here always moaning, always finding something negative to winge about.
If we got into Europe next season and the likes of Bayern or Madrid came to St Marys you would be clapping your hands off!
IMO you can not compete in Europe, or even this league without a blend of talented young English players and skillful global players.
Bl oo dy cheer up some of you..
Euro 96, home soil and a mediocre German team take the trophy. 2002, shocking 2nd half display against Brazil, etc. They seem like rabbits caught in the headlights!
saint andy
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10:02am Wed 23 Jan 13
weren't we one of the first with Ivan Golac years ago
but agree would hate to go down the chealski man city road
add quality but not overrun with them,
we have some of the best British talent coming through bed them in slowly ,
from what i have read our new manager seems to be thought of very highly.
onwards and upwards ,
best of luck to Nigel when he takes over Aston Villa (well if he doesn't they are fools)
Mr. Miyagi
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10:08am Wed 23 Jan 13
Jesus_02 wrote:Your are a wise man Jesus. You're not our new assistant manager are you??
St.Yorkie wrote:I don’t think its Xenophobia, its common sense really, and it’s natural to worry.
I'm not really Xenophobic but...I know we can't wait for all the academy lads to mature into Premier League footballers, but do we have to have the anticipated influx of Spanish, South American and Italians? I know there are several factors to consider - but we already have a very large proportion of non-British players in our team. Are we saying they aren't good enough? I know British players are expensive - but are we just going to buy success? By success I mean conquer Europe? I love watching talented footballers - especially in a Saints shirt, but there is part of me that says it's wrong to have 11-non British players representing our club!
However, I can’t see the club investing all that money in the academy and training facilities, only to tread the same path as Portsmouth.
For anything to grow it needs roots, our academy is just that. Cortese may be ruthlessly ambitious but he is no fool
St Retford
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10:08am Wed 23 Jan 13
The only way English players will improve will be for us to churn out a load through our own academy. We're going to have to do this ourselves, unfortunately. So until we've got a home-brewed spine of a team that we can sprinkle a bit of fairy dust on in the form of fancy foreign imports, we're going to have to go looking abroad, and where else than the best league in the world?
And before anyone says the Premier League is better, consider the last six European (ie Champions League, Super Cup and Europa League) finals between Spanish and English sides have all been won by Spanish teams on an aggregate score of 18-2 (or something like that).
SaintMax
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10:13am Wed 23 Jan 13
saint andy wrote:I used to live Ivan Golac. But have a look Andy at what Sainty Saint Saint.. Saint pointed out about Chelseas and Man City above. They too have a good backbone of Egnlish players.
oversea players
weren't we one of the first with Ivan Golac years ago
but agree would hate to go down the chealski man city road
add quality but not overrun with them,
we have some of the best British talent coming through bed them in slowly ,
from what i have read our new manager seems to be thought of very highly.
onwards and upwards ,
best of luck to Nigel when he takes over Aston Villa (well if he doesn't they are fools)
For me the worst culprits used to be Arsenal, but now its Newcastle... and what would that suggest Pardew would have done with Saints if he had still been here.
Panic buying a full squad of non-english is due to having no strategy in place for the team and a poor youth structure.
SaintMax
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10:17am Wed 23 Jan 13
Now I would be worried if our new manager was Chinese, and he was looking to the far East or Africa to fortify our side, but thats not the case.. NC does have a plan.. trust him
SO50 Saint
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10:20am Wed 23 Jan 13
Confucious
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10:25am Wed 23 Jan 13
I gather he's pretty good at it, but we shouldn't expect miracles from Jesus. Rickie presents a huge challenge.
Jesus was apparently quite agitated when Rickie asked: "If we 'uv a diamond, oo's go'n in de 'ole?" Then Rickie told him: "Now dun, now dun, cam down, cam down."
Confucious
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10:29am Wed 23 Jan 13
St Retford
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10:34am Wed 23 Jan 13
SO50 Saint wrote:I know what you're saying, but I've spent quite a lot of time in Spain and Barcelona (I make a distinction between the two because that's what people in Barcelona do) and you can tell just by watching kids in the park that their approach to the game is basically better than ours. They have a level of technical ability that's taken for granted which, if a player over here had it, he's be hailed as the messiah.
Retford I think what you'll find is the top teams in Spain (Barca, Athletico and Real) are probably all better but the actual standard of the league who can beat who is what's exciting about the prem. Saying that I notice Barca lost there first game of the season on Sat evening to Sociedad I think
This is the way football has gone if you want to be successful (it will be the great lasting legacy of this remarkable Spanish national team) and we need to get with the programme.
La Liga is a little distorted simply because Barca and Real are so good, but I bet you a pound that the 10th placed team in La Liga would wipe the floor with the 10th placed team in the Premiership.
Taoboy
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10:36am Wed 23 Jan 13
And not too tired!
Fitness starts to tell now from this point in the season. Gaston needs to do the full match injuries apart. He is still to find an effective dominance.
Re transfers, it's very easy to see the grass is greener with other players, I disagree with those who think the saints squad are not up to the premier. Some are, also the squad must be big enough to buy and sell players without weakening the performances on the pitch. Every match is a cup final. Points please!!
Saints are now committed to a major gamble, I for one don't know what to expect yet I see real growth as a possibility.Growth can be painful sometimes exciting too.
Cmon you Saints.
SaintMax
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10:43am Wed 23 Jan 13
We can not hope that the current 11 or so stay fit for the run in, as if SRL for example (and god forbid) received a bad knock that kept him out for 6 weeks we would be toothless.
Rising_Son
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10:43am Wed 23 Jan 13
Puddletown Saint wrote:Isn't there a homegrown rule coming in?
Strasbourg Saint wrote:I am with St Yorkie. I cannot wait to see some fantastic Spanish players coming in but do not want us to end up like Arsenal Chelski or Man City with all overseas players. We are an English team and must have a spine of quality English players.
St.Yorkie wrote:I understand your concerns, Yorkie but I'm unsure whether or not they mirror mine.
I'm not really Xenophobic but...I know we can't wait for all the academy lads to mature into Premier League footballers, but do we have to have the anticipated influx of Spanish, South American and Italians?
I know there are several factors to consider - but we already have a very large proportion of non-British players in our team. Are we saying they aren't good enough?
I know British players are expensive - but are we just going to buy success? By success I mean conquer Europe?
I love watching talented footballers - especially in a Saints shirt, but there is part of me that says it's wrong to have 11-non British players representing our club!
Frankly, I don't care what nationality, religion, colour or first language a player (or manager) is/has. My only concerns are these.
1. They are the best person for the job .... within the limits of available funds.
So, I wouldn't want us to go down the Chelsea/Man City route. It's time football finance was checked so that only money generated through the club (or affordable loans) can be used to run a club. Having attacked PFC for following a somewhat different route, I'm certainly not going to defend any irresponsible overspending by Saints. I can't see the Leibherrs or the Don allowing that, though.
2. New players/staff understand the importance of the club's ethos. That is, they come to built on the 'good' things which were evident during the times of Ted Bates, Paine and Channon and continued through to Matt, Franny, Doddsy etc. It got a bit lost during the dark years but we have seen it return under Markus, Nicola, Pards and Nigel.
Players like Kelvin, Rickie and Spiderman embody it today, it's evident in the youth structure and I for one don't want the club to move away from it.
New players (and here's the rub), especially from overseas, may need time to understand this but it really is an important part of being a Saint.
My fear is the likes of Shaw Cork and Adam to be sold for these flair players to come in. COYR
SaintMax
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10:45am Wed 23 Jan 13
Confucious wrote:I noticed, and it was actually aimed at the Everton element. They made quite an impact by all accounts..
Rather off thread, but I thought it was a really nice gesture from Jason Puncheon when he threw his shorts into the Northam Stand fans at the end of Monday's match.
SO50 Saint
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10:51am Wed 23 Jan 13
This is the way football has gone if you want to be successful (it will be the great lasting legacy of this remarkable Spanish national team) and we need to get with the programme.
La Liga is a little distorted simply because Barca and Real are so good, but I bet you a pound that the 10th placed team in La Liga would wipe the floor with the 10th placed team in the Premiership.”
Another thing with Spain is the money situation is completely different to that over hear where more money goes to the big clubs leaving the smaller ones behind and struggling
Rising_Son
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10:54am Wed 23 Jan 13
Confucious wrote:I think you'll find that our Ghanaian is actually Zambian!
With British, Japanese, French, Argentinian, Brazilian, Uruguayan, Portuguese, Dutch, Belgian, Polish and Ghanaian players in the squad, Jesus Perez will have his work cut out helping Mauricio with his communication.
I gather he's pretty good at it, but we shouldn't expect miracles from Jesus. Rickie presents a huge challenge.
Jesus was apparently quite agitated when Rickie asked: "If we 'uv a diamond, oo's go'n in de 'ole?" Then Rickie told him: "Now dun, now dun, cam down, cam down."
OSPREYSAINT
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11:01am Wed 23 Jan 13
OSPREYSAINT
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11:02am Wed 23 Jan 13
OSPREYSAINT wrote:..and now they are back again!
Is it me or is the site having a wobbly, there 48 comments here earlier? Now none.
allsaintsnocurves
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11:10am Wed 23 Jan 13
MP will want to bring in a couple of players who know his style of football because it will be easier for him to get others to follow their lead. This is not to damage the development of the youngsters already on the books but to enhance their development into the Spanish mold of training. This will increase the level of skills amongst the players and speed with which they can make decisions on the pitch during games.
English players don't always have the vision or awareness of the continental players and this needs to change if we are to be successful in the future playing a style similar to Barcelona.
Saints n Winners
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11:17am Wed 23 Jan 13
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Can't believe Steve Mcmanaman is so high - they used to call him the postman in Spain cos he would spray his passes everwhere; and not always to a team mate.
Gazza had a bad injury but when he played he was always the best man on the pitch.
Say what you want about Beckham; he's fairly thick but he has been good overseas. Has he been driven to it by his wife though? which backs up what someone said earlier - living abroad gives you a depth of understanding of human nature (others and yourself) that staying at home can't buy.
hedge end bob
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11:19am Wed 23 Jan 13
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:OSPREY, is seed being abusive ???????. You bollicked me recently for using such a bad word. (idiot) Hope my grammer and spelling pass the test today...............
three halves wrote:Idiot
At least he will speak the same language as the players he brings in.
..as if I G A FCUK.
Confucious
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11:21am Wed 23 Jan 13
Rising_Son wrote:Oops! Just shows how ignorant I am about Africa. I remember getting told off at school when I asked my teacher how many hyena bones you need to make a laughing stock.
Confucious wrote:I think you'll find that our Ghanaian is actually Zambian!
With British, Japanese, French, Argentinian, Brazilian, Uruguayan, Portuguese, Dutch, Belgian, Polish and Ghanaian players in the squad, Jesus Perez will have his work cut out helping Mauricio with his communication.
I gather he's pretty good at it, but we shouldn't expect miracles from Jesus. Rickie presents a huge challenge.
Jesus was apparently quite agitated when Rickie asked: "If we 'uv a diamond, oo's go'n in de 'ole?" Then Rickie told him: "Now dun, now dun, cam down, cam down."
angus mc coatup
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11:34am Wed 23 Jan 13
I'm as annoyed as most people about nigels removal but thats history now, and we should back the new man and move on.
I have seen some reports linking saints with a player by the name of
lucas biglia from anderlecht,now he is a really good holdng midfielder of the micheal carrick mould (watched him pre season at st mary's) liked what I saw there.here's hoping we snare him and a couple more as the quality outside of the starting line is not as good as it should be.
always a saint
COYR !!!!
El Santo
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11:56am Wed 23 Jan 13
St.Yorkie wrote:Pochettino brought up plenty of players from the Academy in Barcelona. He might need a few foreigners now, to strengthen the squad and give quick results, but I think he will take good care of our Academy, in time.
I'm not really Xenophobic but...I know we can't wait for all the academy lads to mature into Premier League footballers, but do we have to have the anticipated influx of Spanish, South American and Italians?
I know there are several factors to consider - but we already have a very large proportion of non-British players in our team. Are we saying they aren't good enough?
I know British players are expensive - but are we just going to buy success? By success I mean conquer Europe?
I love watching talented footballers - especially in a Saints shirt, but there is part of me that says it's wrong to have 11-non British players representing our club!
I still miss Nigel, though.
st bevois
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12:05pm Wed 23 Jan 13
Strasbourg Saint wrote:Good idea Stras - send it into the club! Man U do the same with their youngsters - but not normally abroad.
three halves wrote:B0ll0cks! Every foreign player (including Scots and Irish) playing in England (and Wales) creates a space for and English (or Welsh) player elsewhere. If they are good enough, they can do what Joe Cole and Nutter Barton did and look globally.
The number of foreign players in the Premier league is madness.
Over the last ten years they have changed the face of the game.
A fair number have been top players and improved the quality of the game but some clubs are filled with cheap imports instead of using British players which is a sad reflection of the way the game has gone.
I'd go further, if I was the Don, I'd be looking to send some of our top young players overseas.
Imagine the character building opportunities. Having read several of Spiderman's interviews produced here in Strasbourg, it's clear that his move to England has not only helped him develop as a player but as a man. So, let's get young Stephens, Reeves and co playing regularly in the European leagues (i.e. Portugal and France). They'll come back better for it - as players and men.
El Santo
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12:10pm Wed 23 Jan 13
Strasbourg Saint wrote:That's actually an excellent point!
three halves wrote:B0ll0cks! Every foreign player (including Scots and Irish) playing in England (and Wales) creates a space for and English (or Welsh) player elsewhere. If they are good enough, they can do what Joe Cole and Nutter Barton did and look globally.
The number of foreign players in the Premier league is madness.
Over the last ten years they have changed the face of the game.
A fair number have been top players and improved the quality of the game but some clubs are filled with cheap imports instead of using British players which is a sad reflection of the way the game has gone.
I'd go further, if I was the Don, I'd be looking to send some of our top young players overseas.
Imagine the character building opportunities. Having read several of Spiderman's interviews produced here in Strasbourg, it's clear that his move to England has not only helped him develop as a player but as a man. So, let's get young Stephens, Reeves and co playing regularly in the European leagues (i.e. Portugal and France). They'll come back better for it - as players and men.
st bevois
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12:10pm Wed 23 Jan 13
Strasbourg Saint wrote:Good idea Stras - send it into the club! Man U do the same with their youngsters - but not normally abroad.
three halves wrote:B0ll0cks! Every foreign player (including Scots and Irish) playing in England (and Wales) creates a space for and English (or Welsh) player elsewhere. If they are good enough, they can do what Joe Cole and Nutter Barton did and look globally.
The number of foreign players in the Premier league is madness.
Over the last ten years they have changed the face of the game.
A fair number have been top players and improved the quality of the game but some clubs are filled with cheap imports instead of using British players which is a sad reflection of the way the game has gone.
I'd go further, if I was the Don, I'd be looking to send some of our top young players overseas.
Imagine the character building opportunities. Having read several of Spiderman's interviews produced here in Strasbourg, it's clear that his move to England has not only helped him develop as a player but as a man. So, let's get young Stephens, Reeves and co playing regularly in the European leagues (i.e. Portugal and France). They'll come back better for it - as players and men.
SaintMax
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12:20pm Wed 23 Jan 13
angus mc coatup wrote:He does look a good buy, but I cant help but think that the press have put 2 and 2 together and come up with 9.
I think the manager is doing exactly the right things,he's looking at players from a culture that he has played,and managed in.It's a good long term aim to use academy, and other young players brought in.but surely the number one priority is to preserve our prem status.and if we have to import a few spanish or south americans to realise those ambitions then so be it.
I'm as annoyed as most people about nigels removal but thats history now, and we should back the new man and move on.
I have seen some reports linking saints with a player by the name of
lucas biglia from anderlecht,now he is a really good holdng midfielder of the micheal carrick mould (watched him pre season at st mary's) liked what I saw there.here's hoping we snare him and a couple more as the quality outside of the starting line is not as good as it should be.
always a saint
COYR !!!!
In otherwords, we have a new Argentine manager who is looking to recruit, he is an Argentine player who is looking to move and likes the EPL.
I think someone else pointed out that he could be a little like Puncheon initially (moody stroppy) expecially if he is on strike and not honouring his contract.
Id take him though.
st bevois
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12:34pm Wed 23 Jan 13
OSPREYSAINT
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12:38pm Wed 23 Jan 13
hedge end bob wrote:I think sardonic rather than abusive, just mocking the standard response from kent/3 halves when he hasn't got a clue how to respond.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:OSPREY, is seed being abusive ???????. You bollicked me recently for using such a bad word. (idiot) Hope my grammer and spelling pass the test today...............
three halves wrote:Idiot
At least he will speak the same language as the players he brings in.
..as if I G A FCUK.
OSPREYSAINT
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12:40pm Wed 23 Jan 13
OSPREYSAINT wrote:... any way I am Spelling and Grammar Police, not Abuse and Swearing monitor.
hedge end bob wrote:I think sardonic rather than abusive, just mocking the standard response from kent/3 halves when he hasn't got a clue how to respond.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:OSPREY, is seed being abusive ???????. You bollicked me recently for using such a bad word. (idiot) Hope my grammer and spelling pass the test today...............
three halves wrote:Idiot
At least he will speak the same language as the players he brings in.
..as if I G A FCUK.
OSPREYSAINT
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12:43pm Wed 23 Jan 13
Confucious wrote:They all look the same in the dark! Oops that could be regarded as a bit racist, not my intention.
Rising_Son wrote:Oops! Just shows how ignorant I am about Africa. I remember getting told off at school when I asked my teacher how many hyena bones you need to make a laughing stock.
Confucious wrote:I think you'll find that our Ghanaian is actually Zambian!
With British, Japanese, French, Argentinian, Brazilian, Uruguayan, Portuguese, Dutch, Belgian, Polish and Ghanaian players in the squad, Jesus Perez will have his work cut out helping Mauricio with his communication.
I gather he's pretty good at it, but we shouldn't expect miracles from Jesus. Rickie presents a huge challenge.
Jesus was apparently quite agitated when Rickie asked: "If we 'uv a diamond, oo's go'n in de 'ole?" Then Rickie told him: "Now dun, now dun, cam down, cam down."
Rising_Son
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12:48pm Wed 23 Jan 13
OSPREYSAINT wrote:anyway
OSPREYSAINT wrote:... any way I am Spelling and Grammar Police, not Abuse and Swearing monitor.
hedge end bob wrote:I think sardonic rather than abusive, just mocking the standard response from kent/3 halves when he hasn't got a clue how to respond.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:OSPREY, is seed being abusive ???????. You bollicked me recently for using such a bad word. (idiot) Hope my grammer and spelling pass the test today...............
three halves wrote:Idiot
At least he will speak the same language as the players he brings in.
..as if I G A FCUK.
voiceof thepeople
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1:07pm Wed 23 Jan 13
Mush On The Beach
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1:10pm Wed 23 Jan 13
SaintJD
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1:15pm Wed 23 Jan 13
Great performance on Monday and I hope he will realise that, first team wise, there isn't much wrong.
I'd hate to see any of our best players, particularly the young ones and Ricky, moved aside. That is the course to disaster in my opinion.
End of the season if he wants to go mad, fine, but for now please take a slow and easy approach and just tweak what Nigel was doing so well.
Unless we buy in someone of real quality I also want Boruc to stay in goal now out of the three we have.
I worry that Cortese, and potentially the manager, may be tempted to go with Gazza's youth and Argentinian factor.
Makes you wonder actually, Gazza signing and Courtino link, mmm.
As for the Spanish links - 90% people putting two and two together, but probably truth in one or two of them.
One thing's for sure, the type of player we sign will tell us who was in charge of signings and what they disagreed on...
Defenders/Keeper = Nigel had a blindspot NC didn't like.
Flair midfielder/striker = Nigel wanted defensive reinforcement but NC wanted flair.
Hope I'm wrong, but I think you'll see a few more attacking midfielders in the next few days and very little at the back...
SaintJD
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1:18pm Wed 23 Jan 13
SaintJD
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1:20pm Wed 23 Jan 13
voiceof thepeople wrote:Afternoon Kent. Mum made your bed yet?
..as ugly as most of the saints team, should fit in well.
Licky_Rambert
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1:22pm Wed 23 Jan 13
St Retford wrote:just so happens that Real Valladolid are playing Stoke tonight, in a friendly that i arranged.
SO50 Saint wrote: Retford I think what you'll find is the top teams in Spain (Barca, Athletico and Real) are probably all better but the actual standard of the league who can beat who is what's exciting about the prem. Saying that I notice Barca lost there first game of the season on Sat evening to Sociedad I thinkI know what you're saying, but I've spent quite a lot of time in Spain and Barcelona (I make a distinction between the two because that's what people in Barcelona do) and you can tell just by watching kids in the park that their approach to the game is basically better than ours. They have a level of technical ability that's taken for granted which, if a player over here had it, he's be hailed as the messiah. This is the way football has gone if you want to be successful (it will be the great lasting legacy of this remarkable Spanish national team) and we need to get with the programme. La Liga is a little distorted simply because Barca and Real are so good, but I bet you a pound that the 10th placed team in La Liga would wipe the floor with the 10th placed team in the Premiership.
hedge end bob
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1:23pm Wed 23 Jan 13
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Well did i pass todays test?????
OSPREYSAINT wrote:... any way I am Spelling and Grammar Police, not Abuse and Swearing monitor.
hedge end bob wrote:I think sardonic rather than abusive, just mocking the standard response from kent/3 halves when he hasn't got a clue how to respond.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:OSPREY, is seed being abusive ???????. You bollicked me recently for using such a bad word. (idiot) Hope my grammer and spelling pass the test today...............
three halves wrote:Idiot
At least he will speak the same language as the players he brings in.
..as if I G A FCUK.
hedge end bob
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1:24pm Wed 23 Jan 13
Rising_Son wrote:Good God another policeman.!!
OSPREYSAINT wrote:anyway
OSPREYSAINT wrote:... any way I am Spelling and Grammar Police, not Abuse and Swearing monitor.
hedge end bob wrote:I think sardonic rather than abusive, just mocking the standard response from kent/3 halves when he hasn't got a clue how to respond.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:OSPREY, is seed being abusive ???????. You bollicked me recently for using such a bad word. (idiot) Hope my grammer and spelling pass the test today...............
three halves wrote:Idiot
At least he will speak the same language as the players he brings in.
..as if I G A FCUK.
Rising_Son
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1:28pm Wed 23 Jan 13
hedge end bob wrote:Not usually, but I just couldn't resist.
Rising_Son wrote:Good God another policeman.!!
OSPREYSAINT wrote:anyway
OSPREYSAINT wrote:... any way I am Spelling and Grammar Police, not Abuse and Swearing monitor.
hedge end bob wrote:I think sardonic rather than abusive, just mocking the standard response from kent/3 halves when he hasn't got a clue how to respond.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:OSPREY, is seed being abusive ???????. You bollicked me recently for using such a bad word. (idiot) Hope my grammer and spelling pass the test today...............
three halves wrote:Idiot
At least he will speak the same language as the players he brings in.
..as if I G A FCUK.
hedge end bob
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1:31pm Wed 23 Jan 13
OSPREYSAINT
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1:35pm Wed 23 Jan 13
Rising_Son wrote:lol like it! I would rather the Club spent some of it's spare dosh on a loud speaker system in the Kingsland so that I could actually hear what is being announced. For all the good it is at the moment Nigel could have been speaking Spanish all along, I couldn't have told.
hedge end bob wrote:Not usually, but I just couldn't resist.
Rising_Son wrote:Good God another policeman.!!
OSPREYSAINT wrote:anyway
OSPREYSAINT wrote:... any way I am Spelling and Grammar Police, not Abuse and Swearing monitor.
hedge end bob wrote:I think sardonic rather than abusive, just mocking the standard response from kent/3 halves when he hasn't got a clue how to respond.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:OSPREY, is seed being abusive ???????. You bollicked me recently for using such a bad word. (idiot) Hope my grammer and spelling pass the test today...............
three halves wrote:Idiot
At least he will speak the same language as the players he brings in.
..as if I G A FCUK.
OSPREYSAINT
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1:36pm Wed 23 Jan 13
hedge end bob wrote:Close, but no cigar. Capital I needed.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Well did i pass todays test?????
OSPREYSAINT wrote:... any way I am Spelling and Grammar Police, not Abuse and Swearing monitor.
hedge end bob wrote:I think sardonic rather than abusive, just mocking the standard response from kent/3 halves when he hasn't got a clue how to respond.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:OSPREY, is seed being abusive ???????. You bollicked me recently for using such a bad word. (idiot) Hope my grammer and spelling pass the test today...............
three halves wrote:Idiot
At least he will speak the same language as the players he brings in.
..as if I G A FCUK.
hedge end bob
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1:38pm Wed 23 Jan 13
Rising_Son wrote:all a joke
hedge end bob wrote:Not usually, but I just couldn't resist.
Rising_Son wrote:Good God another policeman.!!
OSPREYSAINT wrote:anyway
OSPREYSAINT wrote:... any way I am Spelling and Grammar Police, not Abuse and Swearing monitor.
hedge end bob wrote:I think sardonic rather than abusive, just mocking the standard response from kent/3 halves when he hasn't got a clue how to respond.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:OSPREY, is seed being abusive ???????. You bollicked me recently for using such a bad word. (idiot) Hope my grammer and spelling pass the test today...............
three halves wrote:Idiot
At least he will speak the same language as the players he brings in.
..as if I G A FCUK.
El Santo
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3:41pm Wed 23 Jan 13
St Retford wrote:Hey, Retford, would you also say "I have spent quite a lot of time in the UK and Glasgow/Cardiff"?
SO50 Saint wrote:I know what you're saying, but I've spent quite a lot of time in Spain and Barcelona (I make a distinction between the two because that's what people in Barcelona do) and you can tell just by watching kids in the park that their approach to the game is basically better than ours. They have a level of technical ability that's taken for granted which, if a player over here had it, he's be hailed as the messiah.
Retford I think what you'll find is the top teams in Spain (Barca, Athletico and Real) are probably all better but the actual standard of the league who can beat who is what's exciting about the prem. Saying that I notice Barca lost there first game of the season on Sat evening to Sociedad I think
This is the way football has gone if you want to be successful (it will be the great lasting legacy of this remarkable Spanish national team) and we need to get with the programme.
La Liga is a little distorted simply because Barca and Real are so good, but I bet you a pound that the 10th placed team in La Liga would wipe the floor with the 10th placed team in the Premiership.
Not everyone in Barcelona think they are not part of Spain, mind you. Actually, "RCD Espanyol" gives you already a clue who these are...
;)
Strasbourg Saint
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4:10pm Wed 23 Jan 13
OSPREYSAINT wrote:..... and an apostrophe in ......
hedge end bob wrote:Close, but no cigar. Capital I needed.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Well did i pass todays test?????
OSPREYSAINT wrote:... any way I am Spelling and Grammar Police, not Abuse and Swearing monitor.
hedge end bob wrote:I think sardonic rather than abusive, just mocking the standard response from kent/3 halves when he hasn't got a clue how to respond.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:OSPREY, is seed being abusive ???????. You bollicked me recently for using such a bad word. (idiot) Hope my grammer and spelling pass the test today...............
three halves wrote:Idiot
At least he will speak the same language as the players he brings in.
..as if I G A FCUK.
...... today's
But Bob, I've said it before and I'll say it again (and I think Osprey, RisingSon and Retford would probably agree), this site is about debate NOT English grammar. As far as I'm concerned, keep posting and don't get too hung up on the grammar or spelling.
The only ones I (usually) correct are WUMs and skates, but anyway, I rarely bother responding to either these days.
Otherwise, the only mistakes that horrify me are ......
......... the ones I make but don't spot until I've already submitted my post; I hate that.
As for Spain, I see there's a pic on the official site of the boys at the Neu Camp. I bet Messi rushed out of the changing rooms to get all their autographs before grabbing a ball for a quick kick about. I just wonder how many times Adam nutmegged him before admitting he was still struggling with his fitness.
OSPREYSAINT
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5:19pm Wed 23 Jan 13
Strasbourg Saint wrote:As I keep saying, our services our free, and there is a super no money back guarantee, and we are only here to help! Never ever take me seriously, it would be bad for you health.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:..... and an apostrophe in ......
hedge end bob wrote:Close, but no cigar. Capital I needed.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Well did i pass todays test?????
OSPREYSAINT wrote:... any way I am Spelling and Grammar Police, not Abuse and Swearing monitor.
hedge end bob wrote:I think sardonic rather than abusive, just mocking the standard response from kent/3 halves when he hasn't got a clue how to respond.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:OSPREY, is seed being abusive ???????. You bollicked me recently for using such a bad word. (idiot) Hope my grammer and spelling pass the test today...............
three halves wrote:Idiot
At least he will speak the same language as the players he brings in.
..as if I G A FCUK.
...... today's
But Bob, I've said it before and I'll say it again (and I think Osprey, RisingSon and Retford would probably agree), this site is about debate NOT English grammar. As far as I'm concerned, keep posting and don't get too hung up on the grammar or spelling.
The only ones I (usually) correct are WUMs and skates, but anyway, I rarely bother responding to either these days.
Otherwise, the only mistakes that horrify me are ......
......... the ones I make but don't spot until I've already submitted my post; I hate that.
As for Spain, I see there's a pic on the official site of the boys at the Neu Camp. I bet Messi rushed out of the changing rooms to get all their autographs before grabbing a ball for a quick kick about. I just wonder how many times Adam nutmegged him before admitting he was still struggling with his fitness.
OSPREYSAINT
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5:21pm Wed 23 Jan 13
OSPREYSAINT wrote:"your health!" I am sure the missing 'r' was there when I hit the submit button, this site is having a laugh at my expense.
Strasbourg Saint wrote:As I keep saying, our services our free, and there is a super no money back guarantee, and we are only here to help! Never ever take me seriously, it would be bad for you health.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:..... and an apostrophe in ......
hedge end bob wrote:Close, but no cigar. Capital I needed.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Well did i pass todays test?????
OSPREYSAINT wrote:... any way I am Spelling and Grammar Police, not Abuse and Swearing monitor.
hedge end bob wrote:I think sardonic rather than abusive, just mocking the standard response from kent/3 halves when he hasn't got a clue how to respond.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:OSPREY, is seed being abusive ???????. You bollicked me recently for using such a bad word. (idiot) Hope my grammer and spelling pass the test today...............
three halves wrote:Idiot
At least he will speak the same language as the players he brings in.
..as if I G A FCUK.
...... today's
But Bob, I've said it before and I'll say it again (and I think Osprey, RisingSon and Retford would probably agree), this site is about debate NOT English grammar. As far as I'm concerned, keep posting and don't get too hung up on the grammar or spelling.
The only ones I (usually) correct are WUMs and skates, but anyway, I rarely bother responding to either these days.
Otherwise, the only mistakes that horrify me are ......
......... the ones I make but don't spot until I've already submitted my post; I hate that.
As for Spain, I see there's a pic on the official site of the boys at the Neu Camp. I bet Messi rushed out of the changing rooms to get all their autographs before grabbing a ball for a quick kick about. I just wonder how many times Adam nutmegged him before admitting he was still struggling with his fitness.
Suprawow
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6:30pm Wed 23 Jan 13
And while I'm here I DON'T like the way Cortese is handling things and managing the club, he's making himself look a fool as well as SFC.
Suprawow
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7:09pm Wed 23 Jan 13
mickey01
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7:23pm Wed 23 Jan 13
City Saint wrote:trouble is he speaks the wrong language ! its just like our city there will be more foreigners than home grown talent and we may as well kiss the acadamy goodbye
Some look good indeed, but I'd rather see this team spirit preserved and major changes over the summer, at this point.
With solid management, the squad we have now has proven it can keep us up.
I suspect jay rod might get moved on to make space for the likes of Longo if those deals shape up.
And Mayuka needs a good African Nations Cup run to rediscover his form, else he might also be cuckolded.
Sir Rickie has at least one more season in the top flight in him if he can stay fit, maybe two.
SPIKEISLANDTRADER
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8:06pm Wed 23 Jan 13
Lockssmart wrote:COSTA LOTTA
Saints to be renamed paella FC?
hope we are not set for bankrupt status
Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
8:00am Wed 23 Jan 13