skiptonsaint wrote:
Could of etc in all three games but didnt

Are we going to be bery unlucky and go down ?

Would nige have done any better ?

Are we really any better than wigan and reading ?

AmsterdamSaint wrote:

skiptonsaint wrote:
Could of etc in all three games but didnt

Are we going to be bery unlucky and go down ?

Would nige have done any better ?

Are we really any better than wigan and reading ?

Yes, Nige would have done better.

skiptonsaint wrote:
Could of etc in all three games but didnt

Are we going to be bery unlucky and go down ?

Would nige have done any better ?

Are we really any better than wigan and reading ?

mack chinnon wrote:
Come on Scunny,

Stroppy_gramps wrote:
I thought they played a blinder and really took the game to Wigan.

clearly there needs to be more clinical finishing when we get the ball into the box and we need to be much more agressive defending corners and set pieces.

saint Compo wrote:
Defensive lapses again. How long before Forren makes his debut and Fonte returns?

This 'pressing' game is all very well but it leaves a lot of room at the back and exposes the defence a lot. OK if you've got a strong and pacey back line but otherwise ....

Still, a point's a point but all 3 were nearly ours. Our league position and chances of survival would have looked a lot better.

COYR

skiptonsaint wrote:
I agree we looked good today for a large chunk of the match same as everton and man u games

Maybe adam should of been on at half time btw

Can we play this pressing game for the whole 90 though

We are having a frustrating season

But the fact remains that a few unlucky results and we could be in real trouble

Equally we could go on a run starting with beating city and finish mid table

I do feel for the first time in many a year that we could seriously beat anyone now on our day

Was great to see both goals go in down out end as well

Coyr

RedArmy1 wrote:
TOTAL RESPECT to our magnificent AWAY FANS !!!

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON.

COYR.

Confucious wrote:
It's always a big downer to concede points right at the end and it takes a day or two to get things back in perspective.

But this was even more a 'must not lose' game than it was a 'must win' one. Also showed how far we've come since we played Wigan at home and barely got a look in.

And it's another notched up for Rickie.

By Monday we'll all be looking ahead again and and relishing the prospect of City at St Marys. That's what we do.

Well done and thanks to all the away fans today.

skiptonsaint wrote:
My other concern sat on the train after watching today is And this might not be agreed with

We have possibly wasted money on

Gaston
Mayuka
Jrod (although maybe not. He might get 10 this season and does try)
Gazza ?
Lee slighlty before ?

We bought well with
Clyne

And have had what looks like sone luck with free players
Shaw
Borouc

And jury is out on
Davis
Yoshida
But poss good buys.

We need forren to be a hit
and people like jwp to come through

And punchoen looks less interested last few games. Contract issues ?

If the teams below us buy well
Ie newcastles last 2 results

We could have probs

Not sure we can afford to be this hit and miss in the transfer market

Just a thought

saintlysoul wrote:

skiptonsaint wrote:
My other concern sat on the train after watching today is And this might not be agreed with

We have possibly wasted money on

Gaston
Mayuka
Jrod (although maybe not. He might get 10 this season and does try)
Gazza ?
Lee slighlty before ?

We bought well with
Clyne

And have had what looks like sone luck with free players
Shaw
Borouc

And jury is out on
Davis
Yoshida
But poss good buys.

We need forren to be a hit
and people like jwp to come through

And punchoen looks less interested last few games. Contract issues ?

If the teams below us buy well
Ie newcastles last 2 results

We could have probs

Not sure we can afford to be this hit and miss in the transfer market

Just a thought

Some very good points here!

AmsterdamSaint wrote:

skiptonsaint wrote:
Could of etc in all three games but didnt

Are we going to be bery unlucky and go down ?

Would nige have done any better ?

Are we really any better than wigan and reading ?

Yes, Nige would have done better.

AmsterdamSaint wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:

skiptonsaint wrote:
My other concern sat on the train after watching today is And this might not be agreed with

We have possibly wasted money on

Gaston
Mayuka
Jrod (although maybe not. He might get 10 this season and does try)
Gazza ?
Lee slighlty before ?

We bought well with
Clyne

And have had what looks like sone luck with free players
Shaw
Borouc

And jury is out on
Davis
Yoshida
But poss good buys.

We need forren to be a hit
and people like jwp to come through

And punchoen looks less interested last few games. Contract issues ?

If the teams below us buy well
Ie newcastles last 2 results

We could have probs

Not sure we can afford to be this hit and miss in the transfer market

Just a thought

Some very good points here!

I think Davis is a pretty good buy. And Yoshida too.

saintlysoul wrote:

skiptonsaint wrote:
My other concern sat on the train after watching today is And this might not be agreed with

We have possibly wasted money on

Gaston
Mayuka
Jrod (although maybe not. He might get 10 this season and does try)
Gazza ?
Lee slighlty before ?

We bought well with
Clyne

And have had what looks like sone luck with free players
Shaw
Borouc

And jury is out on
Davis
Yoshida
But poss good buys.

We need forren to be a hit
and people like jwp to come through

And punchoen looks less interested last few games. Contract issues ?

If the teams below us buy well
Ie newcastles last 2 results

We could have probs

Not sure we can afford to be this hit and miss in the transfer market

Just a thought

Some very good points here!

Mr. Miyagi wrote:

AmsterdamSaint wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:

skiptonsaint wrote:
My other concern sat on the train after watching today is And this might not be agreed with

We have possibly wasted money on

Gaston
Mayuka
Jrod (although maybe not. He might get 10 this season and does try)
Gazza ?
Lee slighlty before ?

We bought well with
Clyne

And have had what looks like sone luck with free players
Shaw
Borouc

And jury is out on
Davis
Yoshida
But poss good buys.

We need forren to be a hit
and people like jwp to come through

And punchoen looks less interested last few games. Contract issues ?

If the teams below us buy well
Ie newcastles last 2 results

We could have probs

Not sure we can afford to be this hit and miss in the transfer market

Just a thought

Some very good points here!

I think Davis is a pretty good buy. And Yoshida too.

I may get slated but, I think Yoshida is the weak link in our defence. He scares the sh1t out of me everytime he goes near the ball. His marking at set pieces seems off as well. When his man makes a run, he loses them too easily. Like others have said, going forward we are top class and match for anyone, but still defend with a lot of niavety. Worried about teams around us strengthening, where we are going we what we have, apart from Forren.

WECOMING4U wrote:
Poor defending can cost you in a second as was proven . Nice football can get you no-where in 90 mins? Just a thought?

skiptonsaint wrote:
My other concern sat on the train after watching today is And this might not be agreed with

We have possibly wasted money on

Gaston
Mayuka
Jrod (although maybe not. He might get 10 this season and does try)
Gazza ?
Lee slighlty before ?

We bought well with
Clyne

And have had what looks like sone luck with free players
Shaw
Borouc

And jury is out on
Davis
Yoshida
But poss good buys.

We need forren to be a hit
and people like jwp to come through

And punchoen looks less interested last few games. Contract issues ?

If the teams below us buy well
Ie newcastles last 2 results

We could have probs

Not sure we can afford to be this hit and miss in the transfer market

Just a thought

Red n White wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:

skiptonsaint wrote:
My other concern sat on the train after watching today is And this might not be agreed with

We have possibly wasted money on

Gaston
Mayuka
Jrod (although maybe not. He might get 10 this season and does try)
Gazza ?
Lee slighlty before ?

We bought well with
Clyne

And have had what looks like sone luck with free players
Shaw
Borouc

And jury is out on
Davis
Yoshida
But poss good buys.

We need forren to be a hit
and people like jwp to come through

And punchoen looks less interested last few games. Contract issues ?

If the teams below us buy well
Ie newcastles last 2 results

We could have probs

Not sure we can afford to be this hit and miss in the transfer market

Just a thought

Some very good points here!

I don't think you can say we've wasted money as most of these players are still young. Gazzanigga was one for the future, I'm not sure he was meant to come in so early, but I thought, other than the 1 or 2 mistakes he did alright.
I'm disappointed we've not seen much of Mayuka, not necesarily starting,but off the bench more, same with Lee.

skiptonsaint wrote:
Ok wasted might be a harsh way of putting it with some of the players i listed

But we had a certain amount of money to spend and making sure we stay in this league

12 gaston
7 jorod one for the future
2.5 gazza one for the future

Luckily we have players such as srl, cork , morgan, who are playing at a value way more than we paid so it is working and we should be ok

But we cant afford anymore players for the future imo

And we also have been ok with injuries as a whole ie a bit lucky

But unlucky in alot if games

So odd season

SaintMark wrote:
Never thought I would say this but Davis is looking more up for it than Gaston, he's not looking like a team player. Punch seems to be going same way.. Rest of the team are looking well up for it though!!

bring on city!!

St Retford wrote:
All that really needs saying is that we were genuinely magnificent in that second half. We pressed high up the pitch, they rarely got out of their half and it was wave after glorious wave of Southampton pressure.

Why not start with that game plan? If it means starting with Davis then so be it. The final result was deeply unfair but that was the best I've seen us play.

We'll smash City.

pompey in spain wrote:
i said you lot would end up 16th, but now ???? you had to win this!! not enough passion from your fans!!!

AmsterdamSaint wrote:

skiptonsaint wrote:
Could of etc in all three games but didnt

Are we going to be bery unlucky and go down ?

Would nige have done any better ?

Are we really any better than wigan and reading ?

Yes, Nige would have done better.

J7junctionseven wrote:

St Retford wrote:
All that really needs saying is that we were genuinely magnificent in that second half. We pressed high up the pitch, they rarely got out of their half and it was wave after glorious wave of Southampton pressure.

Why not start with that game plan? If it means starting with Davis then so be it. The final result was deeply unfair but that was the best I've seen us play.

We'll smash City.

Apparently not, we can't beat Wigan so we have no chance.......Take a look at some of the posts above....we're doomed now we've only picked up a point away and have no chance of staying up now. ffs
COYR FOADP

SaintMark wrote:
Never thought I would say this but Davis is looking more up for it than Gaston, he's not looking like a team player. Punch seems to be going same way.. Rest of the team are looking well up for it though!!

bring on city!!

J7junctionseven wrote:

St Retford wrote:
All that really needs saying is that we were genuinely magnificent in that second half. We pressed high up the pitch, they rarely got out of their half and it was wave after glorious wave of Southampton pressure.

Why not start with that game plan? If it means starting with Davis then so be it. The final result was deeply unfair but that was the best I've seen us play.

We'll smash City.

Apparently not, we can't beat Wigan so we have no chance.......Take a look at some of the posts above....we're doomed now we've only picked up a point away and have no chance of staying up now. ffs
COYR FOADP

SaintMark wrote:

saint Compo wrote:
Defensive lapses again. How long before Forren makes his debut and Fonte returns?

This 'pressing' game is all very well but it leaves a lot of room at the back and exposes the defence a lot. OK if you've got a strong and pacey back line but otherwise ....

Still, a point's a point but all 3 were nearly ours. Our league position and chances of survival would have looked a lot better.

COYR

They scored from corners, not sure what the pressing game had to do with it? Thought we played the pressing game well! Just need to defend dead ball situations better. Oh and execute them better.

tomw1234 wrote:

J7junctionseven wrote:

St Retford wrote:
All that really needs saying is that we were genuinely magnificent in that second half. We pressed high up the pitch, they rarely got out of their half and it was wave after glorious wave of Southampton pressure.

Why not start with that game plan? If it means starting with Davis then so be it. The final result was deeply unfair but that was the best I've seen us play.

We'll smash City.

Apparently not, we can't beat Wigan so we have no chance.......Take a look at some of the posts above....we're doomed now we've only picked up a point away and have no chance of staying up now. ffs
COYR FOADP

For gods sake. How depressing. I'd really hate to be you if everything is all doom and gloom. We went to Wigan and bossed it, same at Utd. We'll pick up points. At least we're not QPR!!

rocketone wrote:
I think some of these miserable b4st4rds were watching a different game!
We were unlucky.
We should have scored several times and didn't.
Nobody said buy a striker, so we were all wrong!
The team we have is fighting on our behalf and I am proud of the performance today.
Doomngloomerchants..

......go boil your heads!

rocketone wrote:
I think some of these miserable b4st4rds were watching a different game!
We were unlucky.
We should have scored several times and didn't.
Nobody said buy a striker, so we were all wrong!
The team we have is fighting on our behalf and I am proud of the performance today.
Doomngloomerchants..

......go boil your heads!

rocketone wrote:
I think some of these miserable b4st4rds were watching a different game!
We were unlucky.
We should have scored several times and didn't.
Nobody said buy a striker, so we were all wrong!
The team we have is fighting on our behalf and I am proud of the performance today.
Doomngloomerchants..

......go boil your heads!

Red n White wrote:
Thought Cork was man of the match today, was brilliant. I was very surprised of his calmness on the ball and also some of the skills he showed which I'd never associated with him.
Apparently, for the 2nd goal we scored, it took us 16 seconds from winning the ball near our own box, to put it into the Wigan net.

tomw1234 wrote:

J7junctionseven wrote:

St Retford wrote:
All that really needs saying is that we were genuinely magnificent in that second half. We pressed high up the pitch, they rarely got out of their half and it was wave after glorious wave of Southampton pressure.

Why not start with that game plan? If it means starting with Davis then so be it. The final result was deeply unfair but that was the best I've seen us play.

We'll smash City.

Apparently not, we can't beat Wigan so we have no chance.......Take a look at some of the posts above....we're doomed now we've only picked up a point away and have no chance of staying up now. ffs
COYR FOADP

For gods sake. How depressing. I'd really hate to be you if everything is all doom and gloom. We went to Wigan and bossed it, same at Utd. We'll pick up points. At least we're not QPR!!

saint Compo wrote:
I always find it interesting read the opposition's viewpoint on the game. See:

http://lets-hang-on.

com/2013/02/02/malon

ey-salvages-a-point-

for-the-latics-again

st-the-impressive-sa

ints/

We did OK!

COYR

mesaint wrote:

AmsterdamSaint wrote:

skiptonsaint wrote:
Could of etc in all three games but didnt

Are we going to be bery unlucky and go down ?

Would nige have done any better ?

Are we really any better than wigan and reading ?

Yes, Nige would have done better.

i could understand if we got rid of this manager and got our nige but after seeing todays game,,5 year plan to league 1..cant controll the uncontrolables..but can contoll what is in our controll.defenders.l

ack of,,the futures.not so bright we r in a dog fight sh,te...

mike saint wrote:

WECOMING4U wrote:
Poor defending can cost you in a second as was proven . Nice football can get you no-where in 90 mins? Just a thought?

Well said.
Why when we,ve got 2 second rate centre halfs didwe not buy any in January transfer window.
All season the defence has cost us points. I think it was a big mistake not to buy any and could lead to us being relagated.

just kidding wrote:
I am proud of my team today, not a slacker amongst them. Maybe a couple were off color but great work effort all round. Man there are some real negative tw@ts that get on here sometime. The amount of money we have spent on players already will keep us up, ffs, and you have to include in that amount the bargain of the century IMO Ricky Lambert. What a player that guy is! And I totally agree with St Redford "If anyone can come away from the DW today and not think something bloody magnificent is happening under MP then ther'e mental" (although I would have squeezed the F word in before mental)

F Fan wrote:

mike saint wrote:

WECOMING4U wrote:
Poor defending can cost you in a second as was proven . Nice football can get you no-where in 90 mins? Just a thought?

Well said.
Why when we,ve got 2 second rate centre halfs didwe not buy any in January transfer window.
All season the defence has cost us points. I think it was a big mistake not to buy any and could lead to us being relagated.

Ah - Mike and Me Saint - must be Pompey - a WUM would know who we bought in the window.

St Retford wrote:

Red n White wrote:
Thought Cork was man of the match today, was brilliant. I was very surprised of his calmness on the ball and also some of the skills he showed which I'd never associated with him.
Apparently, for the 2nd goal we scored, it took us 16 seconds from winning the ball near our own box, to put it into the Wigan net.

Cork and Spidey are the heart of the team. Everything stems from them. They were awesome today.

mike saint wrote:

SaintMark wrote:
Never thought I would say this but Davis is looking more up for it than Gaston, he's not looking like a team player. Punch seems to be going same way.. Rest of the team are looking well up for it though!!

bring on city!!

You say bring on city .
Why, we are not going to get any points out of them if we cant beat Wigan. could be in the bottom 3 this time next week.

Ted Rogers wrote:

St Retford wrote:

Red n White wrote:
Thought Cork was man of the match today, was brilliant. I was very surprised of his calmness on the ball and also some of the skills he showed which I'd never associated with him.
Apparently, for the 2nd goal we scored, it took us 16 seconds from winning the ball near our own box, to put it into the Wigan net.

Cork and Spidey are the heart of the team. Everything stems from them. They were awesome today.

Spider is probably the best holding midfielder player in the division on current form - he was awesome today and showed great discipline and maturity after his early yellow.
Thought Clyne looked out of sorts today and my Nan can distribute the ball better than Yoshi and Hooiveld.

As for the JRod knickers, he is the only guy capable of producing that kind of pace down the line to provide the assist for the second.
Shout for Boruc for the excellent save in the first half.
Great day, disappointed with a draw though when Wigan had three attempts and scored two!
I fancy us against City!!

Ted Rogers wrote:

St Retford wrote:

Red n White wrote:
Thought Cork was man of the match today, was brilliant. I was very surprised of his calmness on the ball and also some of the skills he showed which I'd never associated with him.
Apparently, for the 2nd goal we scored, it took us 16 seconds from winning the ball near our own box, to put it into the Wigan net.

Cork and Spidey are the heart of the team. Everything stems from them. They were awesome today.

Spider is probably the best holding midfielder player in the division on current form - he was awesome today and showed great discipline and maturity after his early yellow.
Thought Clyne looked out of sorts today and my Nan can distribute the ball better than Yoshi and Hooiveld.

As for the JRod knickers, he is the only guy capable of producing that kind of pace down the line to provide the assist for the second.
Shout for Boruc for the excellent save in the first half.
Great day, disappointed with a draw though when Wigan had three attempts and scored two!
I fancy us against City!!

St Retford wrote:
That missing word was "pished". Or thereabouts.

spirit of 66 wrote:
Disappointing not to win, but one point is just OK. Thirteen games left - a point a game would see us just scrape home. With seven home games, three of these as home wins/nine points would leave us having to get five or six points elsewhere. On recent performances this looks quite likely to see us stay up.

Ted Rogers wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote:

St Retford wrote:

Red n White wrote:
Thought Cork was man of the match today, was brilliant. I was very surprised of his calmness on the ball and also some of the skills he showed which I'd never associated with him.
Apparently, for the 2nd goal we scored, it took us 16 seconds from winning the ball near our own box, to put it into the Wigan net.

Cork and Spidey are the heart of the team. Everything stems from them. They were awesome today.

Spider is probably the best holding midfielder player in the division on current form - he was awesome today and showed great discipline and maturity after his early yellow.
Thought Clyne looked out of sorts today and my Nan can distribute the ball better than Yoshi and Hooiveld.

As for the JRod knickers, he is the only guy capable of producing that kind of pace down the line to provide the assist for the second.
Shout for Boruc for the excellent save in the first half.
Great day, disappointed with a draw though when Wigan had three attempts and scored two!
I fancy us against City!!

Knockers...(auto correct)

Ted Rogers wrote:

St Retford wrote:
That missing word was "pished". Or thereabouts.

That was one of the most one-sided 45 minutes I've ever seen in top flight football.
I'd start against City with Lallana and JRod out wide.

hdfw09 wrote:
The negativity on here is brutal. Saints controlled the match today, and Wednesday. We just aren't "finishing". We are definitely coming into our own and I think teams now see us as a tough match.

Playing aggressive and controlling the flow of the match. We are going the right direction. Davis is looking better. JRod is impressing. Lambert is just a stud. Should have had 2 assists today. Lallana is back!

Keep the faith Saints fans!

On another note, I have a question: Does anyone know the difference between Pompey and a bucket of sh1t? Answer: The Bucket

COYR

- Saints Fan in Texas

arm chair fan wrote:
in all the years of watching saints can anyone tell me when they have seen a saints side chase down the opposition so quickly with two men as they have in the last 3 games ???? we have rolled over a few teams over the years but i cannt remember seeing this desire to close down.

F Fan wrote:

mike saint wrote:

WECOMING4U wrote:
Poor defending can cost you in a second as was proven . Nice football can get you no-where in 90 mins? Just a thought?

Well said.
Why when we,ve got 2 second rate centre halfs didwe not buy any in January transfer window.
All season the defence has cost us points. I think it was a big mistake not to buy any and could lead to us being relagated.

Ah - Mike and Me Saint - must be Pompey - a WUM would know who we bought in the window.

mike saint wrote:

SaintMark wrote:
Never thought I would say this but Davis is looking more up for it than Gaston, he's not looking like a team player. Punch seems to be going same way.. Rest of the team are looking well up for it though!!

bring on city!!

You say bring on city .
Why, we are not going to get any points out of them if we cant beat Wigan. could be in the bottom 3 this time next week.

pompey in spain wrote:
i said you lot would end up 16th, but now ???? you had to win this!! not enough passion from your fans!!!

mike saint wrote:

F Fan wrote:

mike saint wrote:

WECOMING4U wrote:
Poor defending can cost you in a second as was proven . Nice football can get you no-where in 90 mins? Just a thought?

Well said.
Why when we,ve got 2 second rate centre halfs didwe not buy any in January transfer window.
All season the defence has cost us points. I think it was a big mistake not to buy any and could lead to us being relagated.

Ah - Mike and Me Saint - must be Pompey - a WUM would know who we bought in the window.

I am most certainly not a pompey fan.
I am just disgusted that we have been
letting in soft goals all season and we have not bought in 2 centre halfs.
After todays game anyone can see that
Mayuka is crap and Hoolveld not much better but what cover have we got for both of them none.

Clever Dick wrote:
So the Boruc knockers have disappeared after some great saves recently. Mite lose the J-Rod knockers after making one and putting off the defender for SRLs goal. Now some are returning to knock the two centre backs. FFS they can't and won't win every ball. They are £3M defenders playing in th toughest league in the world. They are doing ok and will do a lot better with the 100% support of the fans. After watching match choice I'd have to say Spider and Cork were immense, SRL out of this world, and the whole team put in a great shift. Punch needs to get back on it 'cos we don't have a natural replacement and Gaston shows some great touches but for £12M should be our stand out player. It's still in the balance as we need a few wins but if you can't enjoy that display then go and support Barcelona.. And yes we do have some tough games ahead, but guess what. So do all the other sides around us. COYS

costa gaz wrote:
Would have, could have, should have.....DIDN'T
We have become the hardest working, best passing and pressing, attractive, non-winning team in the league.

Some fans are satisfied with playing nice football and getting praise from the plaudits. It's great to watch and I can see why some are getting excited about our team, but unfortunately we need to win matches.

We started the season playing pretty football and it left the defence completely exposed and we paid a hefty price.
Our game changed and we started moving in the right direction. Now our game has changed again where we are leaving the defence exposed once more.

Now, if some find this post negative, take a look at the table and our remaining fixtures.

Epsom Saint wrote:
I think some people are being too harsh on our young players, they are still improving. I seem to remember that Spider struggled to nail down a slot in the team while we were in L1 and the Championship, but now look at him. Be patient, we are getting better all the time.

Clever Dick wrote:
So the Boruc knockers have disappeared after some great saves recently. Mite lose the J-Rod knockers after making one and putting off the defender for SRLs goal. Now some are returning to knock the two centre backs. FFS they can't and won't win every ball. They are £3M defenders playing in th toughest league in the world. They are doing ok and will do a lot better with the 100% support of the fans. After watching match choice I'd have to say Spider and Cork were immense, SRL out of this world, and the whole team put in a great shift. Punch needs to get back on it 'cos we don't have a natural replacement and Gaston shows some great touches but for £12M should be our stand out player. It's still in the balance as we need a few wins but if you can't enjoy that display then go and support Barcelona.. And yes we do have some tough games ahead, but guess what. So do all the other sides around us. COYS

Mr. Miyagi wrote:

AmsterdamSaint wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:

skiptonsaint wrote:
My other concern sat on the train after watching today is And this might not be agreed with

We have possibly wasted money on

Gaston
Mayuka
Jrod (although maybe not. He might get 10 this season and does try)
Gazza ?
Lee slighlty before ?

We bought well with
Clyne

And have had what looks like sone luck with free players
Shaw
Borouc

And jury is out on
Davis
Yoshida
But poss good buys.

We need forren to be a hit
and people like jwp to come through

And punchoen looks less interested last few games. Contract issues ?

If the teams below us buy well
Ie newcastles last 2 results

We could have probs

Not sure we can afford to be this hit and miss in the transfer market

Just a thought

Some very good points here!

I think Davis is a pretty good buy. And Yoshida too.

I may get slated but, I think Yoshida is the weak link in our defence. He scares the sh1t out of me everytime he goes near the ball. His marking at set pieces seems off as well. When his man makes a run, he loses them too easily. Like others have said, going forward we are top class and match for anyone, but still defend with a lot of niavety. Worried about teams around us strengthening, where we are going we what we have, apart from Forren.

mike saint wrote:

F Fan wrote:

mike saint wrote:

WECOMING4U wrote:
Poor defending can cost you in a second as was proven . Nice football can get you no-where in 90 mins? Just a thought?

Well said.
Why when we,ve got 2 second rate centre halfs didwe not buy any in January transfer window.
All season the defence has cost us points. I think it was a big mistake not to buy any and could lead to us being relagated.

Ah - Mike and Me Saint - must be Pompey - a WUM would know who we bought in the window.

I am most certainly not a pompey fan.
I am just disgusted that we have been
letting in soft goals all season and we have not bought in 2 centre halfs.
After todays game anyone can see that
Mayuka is crap and Hoolveld not much better but what cover have we got for both of them none.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

mike saint wrote:

F Fan wrote:

mike saint wrote:

WECOMING4U wrote:
Poor defending can cost you in a second as was proven . Nice football can get you no-where in 90 mins? Just a thought?

Well said.
Why when we,ve got 2 second rate centre halfs didwe not buy any in January transfer window.
All season the defence has cost us points. I think it was a big mistake not to buy any and could lead to us being relagated.

Ah - Mike and Me Saint - must be Pompey - a WUM would know who we bought in the window.

I am most certainly not a pompey fan.
I am just disgusted that we have been
letting in soft goals all season and we have not bought in 2 centre halfs.
After todays game anyone can see that
Mayuka is crap and Hoolveld not much better but what cover have we got for both of them none.

We haven't seen Mayuka at Centre Back yet so how you can criticise him for that, that is out of order, I assume you meant Yoshida? He has been outstanding at times, just prone to an odd error, which always seems to be punished. Hooiveld was said to be not up to Premier, but he still puts in a good shift every time he steps on the pitch in a Saints shirt, he is not our first pick but has never moaned about it. Perhaps when Fonte and Forren are in the defence it will once again be tighter.

SaintMark wrote:

Clever Dick wrote:
So the Boruc knockers have disappeared after some great saves recently. Mite lose the J-Rod knockers after making one and putting off the defender for SRLs goal. Now some are returning to knock the two centre backs. FFS they can't and won't win every ball. They are £3M defenders playing in th toughest league in the world. They are doing ok and will do a lot better with the 100% support of the fans. After watching match choice I'd have to say Spider and Cork were immense, SRL out of this world, and the whole team put in a great shift. Punch needs to get back on it 'cos we don't have a natural replacement and Gaston shows some great touches but for £12M should be our stand out player. It's still in the balance as we need a few wins but if you can't enjoy that display then go and support Barcelona.. And yes we do have some tough games ahead, but guess what. So do all the other sides around us. COYS

Like!

Dpercsfc wrote:
Unbelievable some of the posters on here. Yes it was disappointing not to get the win, but we were away from home and we continued our run of excellent form on performance. We are ABOVE the relegation zone ffs! Are these people only going to be happy if we're battling for Europe already? It was a significantly worse result for Wigan, Villa's point will have felt even worse (albeit in a tougher fixture), QPR dropped a huge two points against a team in dire form and Reading only just got a win which was a must-win anyway. We're staying up people - get off the teams back and support them like the fans who made the trip yesterday did!

momogogo wrote:
We've got to be more positive about the direction of the club under MP. I, like most sane saints fans, was shocked to see NA go but we have to give MP a lot of credit for what he has done so far.

I have never seen us dominate games like we have in the last three - granted only for the second half against united.The only other times we have really outplayed this season was against Villa, QPR and Newcastle - who were all awful when we faced them. We have played teams in form and been better.

A few people have blamed this pressing style on the goals conceded but we have been so good at it teams have rarely got through and the goals today were off set pieces.

Hopefully we start turning this dominance in terms of possession and chances into wins.

Dpercsfc wrote:
Unbelievable some of the posters on here. Yes it was disappointing not to get the win, but we were away from home and we continued our run of excellent form on performance. We are ABOVE the relegation zone ffs! Are these people only going to be happy if we're battling for Europe already? It was a significantly worse result for Wigan, Villa's point will have felt even worse (albeit in a tougher fixture), QPR dropped a huge two points against a team in dire form and Reading only just got a win which was a must-win anyway. We're staying up people - get off the teams back and support them like the fans who made the trip yesterday did!

costa gaz wrote:
Would have, could have, should have.....DIDN'T
We have become the hardest working, best passing and pressing, attractive, non-winning team in the league.

Some fans are satisfied with playing nice football and getting praise from the plaudits. It's great to watch and I can see why some are getting excited about our team, but unfortunately we need to win matches.

We started the season playing pretty football and it left the defence completely exposed and we paid a hefty price.
Our game changed and we started moving in the right direction. Now our game has changed again where we are leaving the defence exposed once more.

Now, if some find this post negative, take a look at the table and our remaining fixtures.

Clever Dick wrote:
So the Boruc knockers have disappeared after some great saves recently. Mite lose the J-Rod knockers after making one and putting off the defender for SRLs goal. Now some are returning to knock the two centre backs. FFS they can't and won't win every ball. They are £3M defenders playing in th toughest league in the world. They are doing ok and will do a lot better with the 100% support of the fans. After watching match choice I'd have to say Spider and Cork were immense, SRL out of this world, and the whole team put in a great shift. Punch needs to get back on it 'cos we don't have a natural replacement and Gaston shows some great touches but for £12M should be our stand out player. It's still in the balance as we need a few wins but if you can't enjoy that display then go and support Barcelona.. And yes we do have some tough games ahead, but guess what. So do all the other sides around us. COYS

jerseysaint wrote:
Bit frustrated at only a point but we are still 3 points above relegation the saving grace was villa not winning and we kept 3 points between us and Wigan. I think we will win next week against city if we play the pressing game. We just have to keep 3 Points between us and bottom 3 then at least we can lose one and still be out of bottom 3.

Terry Fulford wrote:

jerseysaint wrote: Bit frustrated at only a point but we are still 3 points above relegation the saving grace was villa not winning and we kept 3 points between us and Wigan. I think we will win next week against city if we play the pressing game. We just have to keep 3 Points between us and bottom 3 then at least we can lose one and still be out of bottom 3.

Just 3 points are not enough we are running out of games.

mike saint wrote:

WECOMING4U wrote:
Poor defending can cost you in a second as was proven . Nice football can get you no-where in 90 mins? Just a thought?

Well said.
Why when we,ve got 2 second rate centre halfs didwe not buy any in January transfer window.
All season the defence has cost us points. I think it was a big mistake not to buy any and could lead to us being relagated.

saintlysoul wrote:
Having just watched MOTD I was impressed with the reaction of MP and the coaching staff when we scored the second. With passion like that saints will survive in this division I have no doubt!!!!!!!

Terry Fulford wrote:

jerseysaint wrote:
Bit frustrated at only a point but we are still 3 points above relegation the saving grace was villa not winning and we kept 3 points between us and Wigan. I think we will win next week against city if we play the pressing game. We just have to keep 3 Points between us and bottom 3 then at least we can lose one and still be out of bottom 3.

Just 3 points are not enough we are running out of games.

batesieboy wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:
Having just watched MOTD I was impressed with the reaction of MP and the coaching staff when we scored the second. With passion like that saints will survive in this division I have no doubt!!!!!!!

That is the passion that winning sides should show AT THE FINAL WHISTLE. Not before.

costa gaz wrote:
Would have, could have, should have.....DIDN'T
We have become the hardest working, best passing and pressing, attractive, non-winning team in the league.

Some fans are satisfied with playing nice football and getting praise from the plaudits. It's great to watch and I can see why some are getting excited about our team, but unfortunately we need to win matches.

We started the season playing pretty football and it left the defence completely exposed and we paid a hefty price.
Our game changed and we started moving in the right direction. Now our game has changed again where we are leaving the defence exposed once more.

Now, if some find this post negative, take a look at the table and our remaining fixtures.

petethephantom wrote:
g'day from sydney oz

watched the game at 2am sydney time, and just watched the taped replay and my conclusion is same as i have held even more so now .... is that as I have stated that yoshida is a total waste of time and not worth one cent/ sorry penny..... been saying that for a long time... how many more goals and points is he going to cost us

C O Y R

Costa Baz wrote:
Why are people moaning about the high pressing game leaving the defence exposed? We've only conceded 1 goal from open play, in 3 matches, and that wasn't due to the new style of play.
Those complaining about Yoshida are clearly not noticing how often he sweeps up behind the full backs. Yes he can be faulted for the first Wigan goal, but he is a good CB who is getting better each game he plays.
The player I would change, though, is Puncheon. He needs too many touches, too often picks out the wrong pass and is too predictable, always cutting inside.
Someone said we need more goals from the midfielders, but with Puncheon narrowing the play, he is forcing the opposition's defence to become more compact, when he cuts in, reducing the gaps for our players to exploit.

Costa Baz wrote:
Why are people moaning about the high pressing game leaving the defence exposed? We've only conceded 1 goal from open play, in 3 matches, and that wasn't due to the new style of play.
Those complaining about Yoshida are clearly not noticing how often he sweeps up behind the full backs. Yes he can be faulted for the first Wigan goal, but he is a good CB who is getting better each game he plays.
The player I would change, though, is Puncheon. He needs too many touches, too often picks out the wrong pass and is too predictable, always cutting inside.
Someone said we need more goals from the midfielders, but with Puncheon narrowing the play, he is forcing the opposition's defence to become more compact, when he cuts in, reducing the gaps for our players to exploit.

saintlysoul wrote:

skiptonsaint wrote:
I agree we looked good today for a large chunk of the match same as everton and man u games

Maybe adam should of been on at half time btw

Can we play this pressing game for the whole 90 though

We are having a frustrating season

But the fact remains that a few unlucky results and we could be in real trouble

Equally we could go on a run starting with beating city and finish mid table

I do feel for the first time in many a year that we could seriously beat anyone now on our day

Was great to see both goals go in down out end as well

Coyr

It's very encouraging that not only can we play good passing football but we can score as well! It seems like the midfield did well today and Davis, Lalana and JWP did well when they got in! When you consider this perhaps it's not surprising that NC and MP didn't see the need to invest in more midfielders!

The defence seems to have had problems today. No doubt that is something they'll have to work on in training this week.

I'm very optimistic about the rest if the season now. I think MP will go from strength I strength and that Saints will definitely stay up!!!!!

petethephantom wrote:
in at least 3 games for start, not to mention the amount of times he passes the ball to someone else in a worse position.
I feel there are or has to be better options within the club than what he is offering

I hope he proves me wrong in his next appearance and has an absolute blinder, and I can say I was wrong.... one can hope

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

costa gaz wrote:
Would have, could have, should have.....DIDN'T
We have become the hardest working, best passing and pressing, attractive, non-winning team in the league.

Some fans are satisfied with playing nice football and getting praise from the plaudits. It's great to watch and I can see why some are getting excited about our team, but unfortunately we need to win matches.

We started the season playing pretty football and it left the defence completely exposed and we paid a hefty price.
Our game changed and we started moving in the right direction. Now our game has changed again where we are leaving the defence exposed once more.

Now, if some find this post negative, take a look at the table and our remaining fixtures.

We're a work in progress and the progress of the last three years has been truly breathtaking, Infact it couldn't have been better. Ferguson said on Wednesday that we were the best team to visit Old Trafford this season and a group of Wigan fans said the same thing yesterday about teams at the DW.

We didn't leave the defence exposed, Infact our defence was rarely breached and when it was Boruc was immense ( hands up I got him wrong) - it was poor defending from set pieces that cost us again. Corners against Wigan and set pieces against Manure. With our first choice centre half out and our new signing yet to start I expect us to improve in this area.

This season will be a battle until the end but make no mistake something very exciting is happening here!

SFCOLDBOY wrote:
Nice to have bumped into Seedhouse and Bad Bill yesterday.

Bill, did you get that pie?

Not too sure they looked as good as they are reputed to be.

up saints wrote:
you can all blame the defence but when you have a 13mil playmaker who cant hit the target from 6 yards that tells you alot

Saintsayer II wrote:
One half against Everton, one half against Utd and one half against Wigan is this a plan or is it because the players are unable to sustain the high energy levels needed with MoPo' s pass and press tactics

I watched on line and it is certainly entertaining but Forren or Fonte are needed sooner rather than later

Was Clyne injured or was it tactical?Clyne would probably been better positioned to stop their equaliser

Velleity wrote:
I saw the lot yesterday in a pub.

For a very long period in the game it was like looking at a top of the table team against a bottom of the table team. Wigan were pressed every single time they had the ball and simply couldn't put an attack together. We were runnig riot. If the shirt colours had been changed, it could have been Man U versus Villa.

However, the chances we generated didn't turn into goals. We had seven on target yesterday and two went in. We've seen games (leeds last year) where we had one chance on target and one goal. That's the way it goes. Some go in, some don't. A couple of errors from set pieces and the disappointment was complete.

However, the *way* we are creating the chances is by playing some of the most exciting football I've ever seen. For long chunks of the past three games we have been simply breathtaking. Those chunks will get longer as the team coalesces into what MP is looking for; what a time we'll have watching it happen.

And for all the dullards pointing out how other teams are doing, remember the tale of the two guys being tracked by a tiger in the jungle. One sits down to put on his running shoes. The other guy points out that there's no point, he won't be able to outrun a tiger. The guy finishes tying up his shoe, stand up and says "You're right, but I don't have to, I just have to outrun you!"

It's easy to assume that everyone below us will suddenly come upon a run of form and overtake us but it's unlikely; they were worse than us up to now, they'll probably be worse in the future. (Think of the chances that QPR might go on a run and overtake us - I'll show my a***e in Sainsburys if they do).

We'll survive and, most importantly, we'll have fun watching us do it.

andysaints007 wrote:

Saintsayer II wrote:
One half against Everton, one half against Utd and one half against Wigan is this a plan or is it because the players are unable to sustain the high energy levels needed with MoPo' s pass and press tactics

I watched on line and it is certainly entertaining but Forren or Fonte are needed sooner rather than later

Was Clyne injured or was it tactical?Clyne would probably been better positioned to stop their equaliser

PRATT

Velleity wrote:

up saints wrote:
you can all blame the defence but when you have a 13mil playmaker who cant hit the target from 6 yards that tells you alot

Cripes!

Have you ever seens Van Persie miss a sitter?

Have you ever seens Rooney miss a sitter?

Have you ever seens Lampard miss a sitter?

Aguero, Vila, etc, etc.

It happens. It happens against us and it happens for us.


You've made it clear you don't like the bloke but that's a daft argument.

If you'd argued that he doesn't seem to be firing on all cylinders recently I might have had some sympathy but one miss?

Velleity wrote:

up saints wrote:
you can all blame the defence but when you have a 13mil playmaker who cant hit the target from 6 yards that tells you alot

Cripes!

Have you ever seens Van Persie miss a sitter?

Have you ever seens Rooney miss a sitter?

Have you ever seens Lampard miss a sitter?

Aguero, Vila, etc, etc.

It happens. It happens against us and it happens for us.


You've made it clear you don't like the bloke but that's a daft argument.

If you'd argued that he doesn't seem to be firing on all cylinders recently I might have had some sympathy but one miss?

St.Yorkie wrote:
It was a bitter sweet experience yesterday. Bitter the late equlaiser - sweet the second goal.
At times the fans were quiet - but overall I thought it was an OK awayday.
Still amazed at the second goal - and I thought Schneiderlin was just a midfield player. Box to box midfielder and obviously one of the fittest players in the team. Full marks to JWP and JRod for making the break down the left - great pace and vision. the ball into Morgan was right in his stride. No wonder they celebrated.
Frustrated with Gaston & Puncheon yesterday.
Overall though I am confident there are at least 3-times worse than us. Parked in deepest residential Wigan. Some bloke came out of his house with kids and puppy..."You were lucky - that's the worst Wigan have played all season" apparently he streamed the game! I repsonded with - "Perhaps we didn't let you play" - he had no answer.
More streaming next week - but it was nice to be able to afford to go to a game again - and home by 7pm across The Pennines.
As an aside the pub Red Robin was suprisingly quiet for an away pub. Getting a drink was difficult but it wasn't 20-deep at the bar!
LOve to see Schnierlin's goal - anyone got a link? Must be the best team goal we have scored this season!

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Velleity wrote:

up saints wrote:
you can all blame the defence but when you have a 13mil playmaker who cant hit the target from 6 yards that tells you alot

Cripes!

Have you ever seens Van Persie miss a sitter?

Have you ever seens Rooney miss a sitter?

Have you ever seens Lampard miss a sitter?

Aguero, Vila, etc, etc.

It happens. It happens against us and it happens for us.


You've made it clear you don't like the bloke but that's a daft argument.

If you'd argued that he doesn't seem to be firing on all cylinders recently I might have had some sympathy but one miss?

At least it gives Guly a break!

slugger wrote:
Didn't see the game but from what iv'e heard and read , we were the better team and deserved to win . some on here are impossible to please so why bother trying ?

saintlysoul wrote:
Strasbourg I was obviously dlighted JWP got on yesterday and pleased he was involved in the second goal that should do his confidnce good. I have to say that I though Spider, Cork and Rodriguez played excellently yesterday and Davis looked good when he came on. I've criticised this quartet in the past but credit where it's due! 'd like to see JWP in the mddle with Cork & Spider I think he would compliment their games and more importantly learn a lot from them both.

Another player I've 'knocked' in the past is Lambert but again yesterday thought he had a great game. Some of his passing as shown on MOTD was top drawer.

It seems that all players have off days and some take time to 'develop' With Lallana back if the defence can sort out some basic defending principles I think the rest of the season looks pretty **** encouraging!!!!!

Costa Baz wrote:
Why are people moaning about the high pressing game leaving the defence exposed? We've only conceded 1 goal from open play, in 3 matches, and that wasn't due to the new style of play.
Those complaining about Yoshida are clearly not noticing how often he sweeps up behind the full backs. Yes he can be faulted for the first Wigan goal, but he is a good CB who is getting better each game he plays.
The player I would change, though, is Puncheon. He needs too many touches, too often picks out the wrong pass and is too predictable, always cutting inside.
Someone said we need more goals from the midfielders, but with Puncheon narrowing the play, he is forcing the opposition's defence to become more compact, when he cuts in, reducing the gaps for our players to exploit.

mike saint wrote:

F Fan wrote:

mike saint wrote:

WECOMING4U wrote:
Poor defending can cost you in a second as was proven . Nice football can get you no-where in 90 mins? Just a thought?

Well said.
Why when we,ve got 2 second rate centre halfs didwe not buy any in January transfer window.
All season the defence has cost us points. I think it was a big mistake not to buy any and could lead to us being relagated.

Ah - Mike and Me Saint - must be Pompey - a WUM would know who we bought in the window.

I am most certainly not a pompey fan.
I am just disgusted that we have been
letting in soft goals all season and we have not bought in 2 centre halfs.
After todays game anyone can see that
Mayuka is crap and Hoolveld not much better but what cover have we got for both of them none.

Velleity wrote:
I saw the lot yesterday in a pub.

For a very long period in the game it was like looking at a top of the table team against a bottom of the table team. Wigan were pressed every single time they had the ball and simply couldn't put an attack together. We were runnig riot. If the shirt colours had been changed, it could have been Man U versus Villa.

However, the chances we generated didn't turn into goals. We had seven on target yesterday and two went in. We've seen games (leeds last year) where we had one chance on target and one goal. That's the way it goes. Some go in, some don't. A couple of errors from set pieces and the disappointment was complete.

However, the *way* we are creating the chances is by playing some of the most exciting football I've ever seen. For long chunks of the past three games we have been simply breathtaking. Those chunks will get longer as the team coalesces into what MP is looking for; what a time we'll have watching it happen.

And for all the dullards pointing out how other teams are doing, remember the tale of the two guys being tracked by a tiger in the jungle. One sits down to put on his running shoes. The other guy points out that there's no point, he won't be able to outrun a tiger. The guy finishes tying up his shoe, stand up and says "You're right, but I don't have to, I just have to outrun you!"

It's easy to assume that everyone below us will suddenly come upon a run of form and overtake us but it's unlikely; they were worse than us up to now, they'll probably be worse in the future. (Think of the chances that QPR might go on a run and overtake us - I'll show my a***e in Sainsburys if they do).

We'll survive and, most importantly, we'll have fun watching us do it.

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:
Strasbourg I was obviously dlighted JWP got on yesterday and pleased he was involved in the second goal that should do his confidnce good. I have to say that I though Spider, Cork and Rodriguez played excellently yesterday and Davis looked good when he came on. I've criticised this quartet in the past but credit where it's due! 'd like to see JWP in the mddle with Cork & Spider I think he would compliment their games and more importantly learn a lot from them both.

Another player I've 'knocked' in the past is Lambert but again yesterday thought he had a great game. Some of his passing as shown on MOTD was top drawer.

It seems that all players have off days and some take time to 'develop' With Lallana back if the defence can sort out some basic defending principles I think the rest of the season looks pretty **** encouraging!!!!!

Totally agree, S.Soul.

Yes, we all have different views on different players. As Up Saints points out, I've been underwhelmed by JayRod ..... and, in general, Davis and Boruc, for that matter. Yesterday, they all put in motm performances. None of them won motm, though, because Rickie, Cork and Spiderman were all even better.

My motm was Spiderman simply because he was already having a great game and running his socks off (is he really French?) prior to sprinting 70 yards for the goal. Until he was shifted to the right in place of Clyne, I thought Cork shaded it.

As for JWP, I read your post yesterday but didn't get the chance to reply. Isn't it great when we see a youngster develop and start to reach his potential? I was delighted with his cameo. What would you say is his best position? In other words, if he started in place of any of yesterday's staring line up (regardless of how well they have been playing), who would it be?

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:
Strasbourg I was obviously dlighted JWP got on yesterday and pleased he was involved in the second goal that should do his confidnce good. I have to say that I though Spider, Cork and Rodriguez played excellently yesterday and Davis looked good when he came on. I've criticised this quartet in the past but credit where it's due! 'd like to see JWP in the mddle with Cork & Spider I think he would compliment their games and more importantly learn a lot from them both.

Another player I've 'knocked' in the past is Lambert but again yesterday thought he had a great game. Some of his passing as shown on MOTD was top drawer.

It seems that all players have off days and some take time to 'develop' With Lallana back if the defence can sort out some basic defending principles I think the rest of the season looks pretty **** encouraging!!!!!

Totally agree, S.Soul.

Yes, we all have different views on different players. As Up Saints points out, I've been underwhelmed by JayRod ..... and, in general, Davis and Boruc, for that matter. Yesterday, they all put in motm performances. None of them won motm, though, because Rickie, Cork and Spiderman were all even better.

My motm was Spiderman simply because he was already having a great game and running his socks off (is he really French?) prior to sprinting 70 yards for the goal. Until he was shifted to the right in place of Clyne, I thought Cork shaded it.

As for JWP, I read your post yesterday but didn't get the chance to reply. Isn't it great when we see a youngster develop and start to reach his potential? I was delighted with his cameo. What would you say is his best position? In other words, if he started in place of any of yesterday's staring line up (regardless of how well they have been playing), who would it be?

SFCSaint wrote:
were heading down this was the easiest game we had left and we couldnt even hold on for 5 minutes 24 points lost from winning positions tells a story were just not good enough!

Mush On The Beach wrote:

Velleity wrote:
I saw the lot yesterday in a pub.

For a very long period in the game it was like looking at a top of the table team against a bottom of the table team. Wigan were pressed every single time they had the ball and simply couldn't put an attack together. We were runnig riot. If the shirt colours had been changed, it could have been Man U versus Villa.

However, the chances we generated didn't turn into goals. We had seven on target yesterday and two went in. We've seen games (leeds last year) where we had one chance on target and one goal. That's the way it goes. Some go in, some don't. A couple of errors from set pieces and the disappointment was complete.

However, the *way* we are creating the chances is by playing some of the most exciting football I've ever seen. For long chunks of the past three games we have been simply breathtaking. Those chunks will get longer as the team coalesces into what MP is looking for; what a time we'll have watching it happen.

And for all the dullards pointing out how other teams are doing, remember the tale of the two guys being tracked by a tiger in the jungle. One sits down to put on his running shoes. The other guy points out that there's no point, he won't be able to outrun a tiger. The guy finishes tying up his shoe, stand up and says "You're right, but I don't have to, I just have to outrun you!"

It's easy to assume that everyone below us will suddenly come upon a run of form and overtake us but it's unlikely; they were worse than us up to now, they'll probably be worse in the future. (Think of the chances that QPR might go on a run and overtake us - I'll show my a***e in Sainsburys if they do).

We'll survive and, most importantly, we'll have fun watching us do it.

Good points well made Vellity. I’m loving what I am seeing in the Saints joy ride, it’s entertaining to watch and if fans keep their faith, bottle and realism of expectation all will be fine. Relegation is not on the horizon this season, I’m convinced.

Villa, QPR and Wigan I fancy, but there is always someone above that gets sucked in and Norwich fans should feel nervous.

sisaydo wrote:
I think some of you are being a bit harsh!
Pochettino has completely changed the way we play football, in a very small amount of time.
I seem to remember at the start of the season quite a few on here were complaining that Adkins did not have a clue and he was purely a Championship manager at best;
Pochettino on the other hand has not had the team for a whole pre season like Adkins, but in my opinion, he has them fighting for every ball and every 50/50 chance.
So on paper against Everton (4th at the time) at home, we battered them and were seriously unlucky not to get 3 points.
Man Utd we lost 2-1 (Top of the league) and praised by Sir Fergie as the BEST team to play at Old Trafford all season and unlucky not to come away with a point.
And then Wigan (who are also fighting for their lives) we completely over ran and made look very ordinary.
My point is, I really do not think we look like going down and can only see us climbing the league, Gaston unfortunately does not fit the new look pressing Saints as it shows when he is swapped for Adam.
Also our defence has been pretty good recently in fact tenfold better than the first 10 or so games. So credit where credit is due I say we will only get better.
COYR’s

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

sisaydo wrote:
I think some of you are being a bit harsh!
Pochettino has completely changed the way we play football, in a very small amount of time.
I seem to remember at the start of the season quite a few on here were complaining that Adkins did not have a clue and he was purely a Championship manager at best;
Pochettino on the other hand has not had the team for a whole pre season like Adkins, but in my opinion, he has them fighting for every ball and every 50/50 chance.
So on paper against Everton (4th at the time) at home, we battered them and were seriously unlucky not to get 3 points.
Man Utd we lost 2-1 (Top of the league) and praised by Sir Fergie as the BEST team to play at Old Trafford all season and unlucky not to come away with a point.
And then Wigan (who are also fighting for their lives) we completely over ran and made look very ordinary.
My point is, I really do not think we look like going down and can only see us climbing the league, Gaston unfortunately does not fit the new look pressing Saints as it shows when he is swapped for Adam.
Also our defence has been pretty good recently in fact tenfold better than the first 10 or so games. So credit where credit is due I say we will only get better.
COYR’s

Exactly, but don't tell SFCSaint, you'll only make him feel a wee bit happy; and that could seriously ruin his day.

since 1885 wrote:

Mush On The Beach wrote:

Velleity wrote:
I saw the lot yesterday in a pub.

For a very long period in the game it was like looking at a top of the table team against a bottom of the table team. Wigan were pressed every single time they had the ball and simply couldn't put an attack together. We were runnig riot. If the shirt colours had been changed, it could have been Man U versus Villa.

However, the chances we generated didn't turn into goals. We had seven on target yesterday and two went in. We've seen games (leeds last year) where we had one chance on target and one goal. That's the way it goes. Some go in, some don't. A couple of errors from set pieces and the disappointment was complete.

However, the *way* we are creating the chances is by playing some of the most exciting football I've ever seen. For long chunks of the past three games we have been simply breathtaking. Those chunks will get longer as the team coalesces into what MP is looking for; what a time we'll have watching it happen.

And for all the dullards pointing out how other teams are doing, remember the tale of the two guys being tracked by a tiger in the jungle. One sits down to put on his running shoes. The other guy points out that there's no point, he won't be able to outrun a tiger. The guy finishes tying up his shoe, stand up and says "You're right, but I don't have to, I just have to outrun you!"

It's easy to assume that everyone below us will suddenly come upon a run of form and overtake us but it's unlikely; they were worse than us up to now, they'll probably be worse in the future. (Think of the chances that QPR might go on a run and overtake us - I'll show my a***e in Sainsburys if they do).

We'll survive and, most importantly, we'll have fun watching us do it.

Good points well made Vellity. I’m loving what I am seeing in the Saints joy ride, it’s entertaining to watch and if fans keep their faith, bottle and realism of expectation all will be fine. Relegation is not on the horizon this season, I’m convinced.

Villa, QPR and Wigan I fancy, but there is always someone above that gets sucked in and Norwich fans should feel nervous.

It's dumb and dumber! Do you applaud chefs that can cook Velleity? How about mechanics who can fix cars mush. They deserve a at least a smattering of applause! Brilliant!

skiptonsaint wrote:
My other concern sat on the train after watching today is And this might not be agreed with

We have possibly wasted money on

Gaston
Mayuka
Jrod (although maybe not. He might get 10 this season and does try)
Gazza ?
Lee slighlty before ?

We bought well with
Clyne

And have had what looks like sone luck with free players
Shaw
Borouc

And jury is out on
Davis
Yoshida
But poss good buys.

We need forren to be a hit
and people like jwp to come through

And punchoen looks less interested last few games. Contract issues ?

If the teams below us buy well
Ie newcastles last 2 results

We could have probs

Not sure we can afford to be this hit and miss in the transfer market

Just a thought

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

sisaydo wrote:
I think some of you are being a bit harsh!
Pochettino has completely changed the way we play football, in a very small amount of time.
I seem to remember at the start of the season quite a few on here were complaining that Adkins did not have a clue and he was purely a Championship manager at best;
Pochettino on the other hand has not had the team for a whole pre season like Adkins, but in my opinion, he has them fighting for every ball and every 50/50 chance.
So on paper against Everton (4th at the time) at home, we battered them and were seriously unlucky not to get 3 points.
Man Utd we lost 2-1 (Top of the league) and praised by Sir Fergie as the BEST team to play at Old Trafford all season and unlucky not to come away with a point.
And then Wigan (who are also fighting for their lives) we completely over ran and made look very ordinary.
My point is, I really do not think we look like going down and can only see us climbing the league, Gaston unfortunately does not fit the new look pressing Saints as it shows when he is swapped for Adam.
Also our defence has been pretty good recently in fact tenfold better than the first 10 or so games. So credit where credit is due I say we will only get better.
COYR’s

Exactly, but don't tell SFCSaint, you'll only make him feel a wee bit happy; and that could seriously ruin his day.

SFCSaint wrote:
Plus it doesnt matter what people say its only results that matter and were not going to win enough games given our defending were likely to be in the bottom 3 after the next 2 games then you might see what i mean

mike saint wrote:

WECOMING4U wrote:
Poor defending can cost you in a second as was proven . Nice football can get you no-where in 90 mins? Just a thought?

Well said.
Why when we,ve got 2 second rate centre halfs didwe not buy any in January transfer window.
All season the defence has cost us points. I think it was a big mistake not to buy any and could lead to us being relagated.

slugger wrote:

SFCOLDBOY wrote:
Nice to have bumped into Seedhouse and Bad Bill yesterday.

Bill, did you get that pie?

Not too sure they looked as good as they are reputed to be.

Do you mean the pies , or Seed and Bill ?

Velleity wrote:

SFCSaint wrote:
Plus it doesnt matter what people say its only results that matter and were not going to win enough games given our defending were likely to be in the bottom 3 after the next 2 games then you might see what i mean

I bet £25 to the charity of your choice that that's not going to happen. If I lose, I'll bring proof of payment of the bet to the Joshua Tree after the QPR game. Ditto if you lose.

You're very confident in your prediction. Are you willing to take it on?

buster gutt wrote:
there is no need to panic as some of you are.Manager has only been in charge three matches and has't he done well.
If this is how good they are after three matches just think how good they will soon become.Keep supporting the team COYR.

J7junctionseven wrote:

rocketone wrote:
I think some of these miserable b4st4rds were watching a different game!
We were unlucky.
We should have scored several times and didn't.
Nobody said buy a striker, so we were all wrong!
The team we have is fighting on our behalf and I am proud of the performance today.
Doomngloomerchants..


......go boil your heads!

Amen to that!

SFCSaint wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

sisaydo wrote:
I think some of you are being a bit harsh!
Pochettino has completely changed the way we play football, in a very small amount of time.
I seem to remember at the start of the season quite a few on here were complaining that Adkins did not have a clue and he was purely a Championship manager at best;
Pochettino on the other hand has not had the team for a whole pre season like Adkins, but in my opinion, he has them fighting for every ball and every 50/50 chance.
So on paper against Everton (4th at the time) at home, we battered them and were seriously unlucky not to get 3 points.
Man Utd we lost 2-1 (Top of the league) and praised by Sir Fergie as the BEST team to play at Old Trafford all season and unlucky not to come away with a point.
And then Wigan (who are also fighting for their lives) we completely over ran and made look very ordinary.
My point is, I really do not think we look like going down and can only see us climbing the league, Gaston unfortunately does not fit the new look pressing Saints as it shows when he is swapped for Adam.
Also our defence has been pretty good recently in fact tenfold better than the first 10 or so games. So credit where credit is due I say we will only get better.
COYR’s

Exactly, but don't tell SFCSaint, you'll only make him feel a wee bit happy; and that could seriously ruin his day.

what you on about its a fact? you dont let that many points go during a season we had the same problem last time we were in this league and what happened? we got relegated!

mike saint wrote:

F Fan wrote:

mike saint wrote:

WECOMING4U wrote:
Poor defending can cost you in a second as was proven . Nice football can get you no-where in 90 mins? Just a thought?

Well said.
Why when we,ve got 2 second rate centre halfs didwe not buy any in January transfer window.
All season the defence has cost us points. I think it was a big mistake not to buy any and could lead to us being relagated.

Ah - Mike and Me Saint - must be Pompey - a WUM would know who we bought in the window.

I am most certainly not a pompey fan.
I am just disgusted that we have been
letting in soft goals all season and we have not bought in 2 centre halfs.
After todays game anyone can see that
Mayuka is crap and Hoolveld not much better but what cover have we got for both of them none.

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

SFCSaint wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

sisaydo wrote:
I think some of you are being a bit harsh!
Pochettino has completely changed the way we play football, in a very small amount of time.
I seem to remember at the start of the season quite a few on here were complaining that Adkins did not have a clue and he was purely a Championship manager at best;
Pochettino on the other hand has not had the team for a whole pre season like Adkins, but in my opinion, he has them fighting for every ball and every 50/50 chance.
So on paper against Everton (4th at the time) at home, we battered them and were seriously unlucky not to get 3 points.
Man Utd we lost 2-1 (Top of the league) and praised by Sir Fergie as the BEST team to play at Old Trafford all season and unlucky not to come away with a point.
And then Wigan (who are also fighting for their lives) we completely over ran and made look very ordinary.
My point is, I really do not think we look like going down and can only see us climbing the league, Gaston unfortunately does not fit the new look pressing Saints as it shows when he is swapped for Adam.
Also our defence has been pretty good recently in fact tenfold better than the first 10 or so games. So credit where credit is due I say we will only get better.
COYR’s

Exactly, but don't tell SFCSaint, you'll only make him feel a wee bit happy; and that could seriously ruin his day.

what you on about its a fact? you dont let that many points go during a season we had the same problem last time we were in this league and what happened? we got relegated!

But, as Velleity pointed out earlier, on current form over the past 10 games, we're actually 10th. So, if that dreadful form persists, we'll just have to put up with another season dropping points against some of the top teams in Europe in arguably the toughest league in Europe.

It's all about perspective. I guess I've got my head buried in the sand and can't see the panic ..... just as I did when I refused to moan in League 1 and then the Championship every time we failed to win a game we should have won. How I should have listened to all those miserable old bugg€rs who said we wouldn't go up, eh?

Anyway, take it as me being a bit tongue in cheek. Come on, we really are okay this year, just NOT as okay as, say, Swansea or Stoke. Then, our team is new to all this Premiership stuff. Now that we're building a competent squad and moving in the right direction, even with the frustrating draws, we're still looking okay AND we're not in the bottom 3 right now.

I'd be more worried if we had this many points by scraping late goals like Reading. That sort of thing doesn't go on all season long. Alas for them, I think they'll soon start dropping points and heading downwards. However, as with my thoughts on Saints, I could be wrong.

SFCSaint wrote:

Velleity wrote:

SFCSaint wrote:
Plus it doesnt matter what people say its only results that matter and were not going to win enough games given our defending were likely to be in the bottom 3 after the next 2 games then you might see what i mean

I bet £25 to the charity of your choice that that's not going to happen. If I lose, I'll bring proof of payment of the bet to the Joshua Tree after the QPR game. Ditto if you lose.

You're very confident in your prediction. Are you willing to take it on?

of course we will lose our next 2 games!

miltonarcher wrote:
Defending at set pieces shambolic, is his lack of English preventing Poch getting his ideas / motivation across to the players? The team was on a great run with Nige at the helm, I think the points return from the past 3 games might have been higher if NA was still motivating the squad.

mack chinnon wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

SFCSaint wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

sisaydo wrote:
I think some of you are being a bit harsh!
Pochettino has completely changed the way we play football, in a very small amount of time.
I seem to remember at the start of the season quite a few on here were complaining that Adkins did not have a clue and he was purely a Championship manager at best;
Pochettino on the other hand has not had the team for a whole pre season like Adkins, but in my opinion, he has them fighting for every ball and every 50/50 chance.
So on paper against Everton (4th at the time) at home, we battered them and were seriously unlucky not to get 3 points.
Man Utd we lost 2-1 (Top of the league) and praised by Sir Fergie as the BEST team to play at Old Trafford all season and unlucky not to come away with a point.
And then Wigan (who are also fighting for their lives) we completely over ran and made look very ordinary.
My point is, I really do not think we look like going down and can only see us climbing the league, Gaston unfortunately does not fit the new look pressing Saints as it shows when he is swapped for Adam.
Also our defence has been pretty good recently in fact tenfold better than the first 10 or so games. So credit where credit is due I say we will only get better.
COYR’s

Exactly, but don't tell SFCSaint, you'll only make him feel a wee bit happy; and that could seriously ruin his day.

what you on about its a fact? you dont let that many points go during a season we had the same problem last time we were in this league and what happened? we got relegated!

But, as Velleity pointed out earlier, on current form over the past 10 games, we're actually 10th. So, if that dreadful form persists, we'll just have to put up with another season dropping points against some of the top teams in Europe in arguably the toughest league in Europe.

It's all about perspective. I guess I've got my head buried in the sand and can't see the panic ..... just as I did when I refused to moan in League 1 and then the Championship every time we failed to win a game we should have won. How I should have listened to all those miserable old bugg€rs who said we wouldn't go up, eh?

Anyway, take it as me being a bit tongue in cheek. Come on, we really are okay this year, just NOT as okay as, say, Swansea or Stoke. Then, our team is new to all this Premiership stuff. Now that we're building a competent squad and moving in the right direction, even with the frustrating draws, we're still looking okay AND we're not in the bottom 3 right now.

I'd be more worried if we had this many points by scraping late goals like Reading. That sort of thing doesn't go on all season long. Alas for them, I think they'll soon start dropping points and heading downwards. However, as with my thoughts on Saints, I could be wrong.

Anybody would think we were Derby after reading this thread.
Onwards and upwards you mighty Saints.
Come on Scunny.

SFCSaint wrote:
Plus it doesnt matter what people say its only results that matter and were not going to win enough games given our defending were likely to be in the bottom 3 after the next 2 games then you might see what i mean

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

St.Yorkie wrote: It was a bitter sweet experience yesterday. Bitter the late equlaiser - sweet the second goal. At times the fans were quiet - but overall I thought it was an OK awayday. Still amazed at the second goal - and I thought Schneiderlin was just a midfield player. Box to box midfielder and obviously one of the fittest players in the team. Full marks to JWP and JRod for making the break down the left - great pace and vision. the ball into Morgan was right in his stride. No wonder they celebrated. Frustrated with Gaston & Puncheon yesterday. Overall though I am confident there are at least 3-times worse than us. Parked in deepest residential Wigan. Some bloke came out of his house with kids and puppy..."You were lucky - that's the worst Wigan have played all season" apparently he streamed the game! I repsonded with - "Perhaps we didn't let you play" - he had no answer. More streaming next week - but it was nice to be able to afford to go to a game again - and home by 7pm across The Pennines. As an aside the pub Red Robin was suprisingly quiet for an away pub. Getting a drink was difficult but it wasn't 20-deep at the bar! LOve to see Schnierlin's goal - anyone got a link? Must be the best team goal we have scored this season!

How's the car? Did it get you there and back okay? From what I could hear, the fans were on fire yesterday. You'll love watching Spiderman's goal again. It has to be one of the goals of the season. Try: www.footytube.com

MGRA wrote:
Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....

St.Yorkie wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

St.Yorkie wrote: It was a bitter sweet experience yesterday. Bitter the late equlaiser - sweet the second goal. At times the fans were quiet - but overall I thought it was an OK awayday. Still amazed at the second goal - and I thought Schneiderlin was just a midfield player. Box to box midfielder and obviously one of the fittest players in the team. Full marks to JWP and JRod for making the break down the left - great pace and vision. the ball into Morgan was right in his stride. No wonder they celebrated. Frustrated with Gaston & Puncheon yesterday. Overall though I am confident there are at least 3-times worse than us. Parked in deepest residential Wigan. Some bloke came out of his house with kids and puppy..."You were lucky - that's the worst Wigan have played all season" apparently he streamed the game! I repsonded with - "Perhaps we didn't let you play" - he had no answer. More streaming next week - but it was nice to be able to afford to go to a game again - and home by 7pm across The Pennines. As an aside the pub Red Robin was suprisingly quiet for an away pub. Getting a drink was difficult but it wasn't 20-deep at the bar! LOve to see Schnierlin's goal - anyone got a link? Must be the best team goal we have scored this season!

How's the car? Did it get you there and back okay? From what I could hear, the fans were on fire yesterday. You'll love watching Spiderman's goal again. It has to be one of the goals of the season. Try: www.footytube.com

Thanks for concern Kev - it was my daughter's car and a write-off me thinks! Despite the recovery vehicle reversing into my car - made legal for the trip across to Wigan.
Not sure about Newcastle yet - got to dig out the theatre glasses - and 1.30 on a Sunday puts me off a bit - don't even know about ticket prices!
Depends on a few things but will know closer to day...could be a massacre either way depending which team turns up!
Personally I would rather Pochettino got his first win next week against the current Champions - but anything is a bonus.
We know there are no easy games - and the pressure is on City to get a result as United are running away with it at the moment.
Think we might see Rickie notch up 100 next week - and Ramirez score coming off the bench. So will it be 2-0 to Saints or 3-2 to City?

randre wrote:

MGRA wrote:
Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....

If wigans game plan is to let other teams dominate and just scrape a draw then they are in trouble.

I prefer our game plan thanks very much. I also prefer our high pressing game, as shearer said after the united game "saints fans are going to have some fun with these tactics".

I do think Wigan would have liked three points and to have played us off the park, as it happens they didn't and in the light of day it was a better point for saints than it was for Wigan.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

slugger wrote:

SFCOLDBOY wrote:
Nice to have bumped into Seedhouse and Bad Bill yesterday.

Bill, did you get that pie?

Not too sure they looked as good as they are reputed to be.

Do you mean the pies , or Seed and Bill ?

Ignore Slugger, he can be very silly at times.

Good to meet you and Insane too. What a great bar, stadium and people. Goes to show what can be done when the owner is a football man.

Bill and Seed the Small went meat and potato and weren't overly impressed but my chunky steak was a top pie.

Nearly home. Great weekend.

SFCSaint wrote:

buster gutt wrote:
there is no need to panic as some of you are.Manager has only been in charge three matches and has't he done well.
If this is how good they are after three matches just think how good they will soon become.Keep supporting the team COYR.

well no he hasnt because he hasnt won a game? and had adkins been manager we would have won yesterday because he doesnt play the stupid zonal marking system that has cost us 3 goals in 2 games so i dont know what you class as doing well

up saints wrote:
does anyone know any forren information.is he injured or not match fit.

poshdave wrote:
Like everyone else it was very frustrating yesterday...........

... however for the first time I can remember I am looking at the games we got to come and don't have an ounce of nerves about who we play!!!!!!!!!......, we are starting to look like we can realistic out play anyone,.............

....... I was gutted about N'A's sacking, but it's starting to look good,...............

funny old game footie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!

SFCSaint wrote:

Velleity wrote:

SFCSaint wrote: Plus it doesnt matter what people say its only results that matter and were not going to win enough games given our defending were likely to be in the bottom 3 after the next 2 games then you might see what i mean

I bet £25 to the charity of your choice that that's not going to happen. If I lose, I'll bring proof of payment of the bet to the Joshua Tree after the QPR game. Ditto if you lose. You're very confident in your prediction. Are you willing to take it on?

of course we will lose our next 2 games!

SFCSaint wrote:

buster gutt wrote: there is no need to panic as some of you are.Manager has only been in charge three matches and has't he done well. If this is how good they are after three matches just think how good they will soon become.Keep supporting the team COYR.

well no he hasnt because he hasnt won a game? and had adkins been manager we would have won yesterday because he doesnt play the stupid zonal marking system that has cost us 3 goals in 2 games so i dont know what you class as doing well

saintshorse101 wrote:

SFCSaint wrote:

Velleity wrote:

SFCSaint wrote: Plus it doesnt matter what people say its only results that matter and were not going to win enough games given our defending were likely to be in the bottom 3 after the next 2 games then you might see what i mean

I bet £25 to the charity of your choice that that's not going to happen. If I lose, I'll bring proof of payment of the bet to the Joshua Tree after the QPR game. Ditto if you lose. You're very confident in your prediction. Are you willing to take it on?

of course we will lose our next 2 games!

how is that time machine going for you?

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Whilst making the arduous journey back from Wigan, I got to do some thinking....

...presumably, there will be anything up to 10,000 skunts with nothing to do on a Saturday from May onwards...

...any worthwhile suggestions as to what they can do with themselves anyone?

Mush On The Beach wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Whilst making the arduous journey back from Wigan, I got to do some thinking....

...presumably, there will be anything up to 10,000 skunts with nothing to do on a Saturday from May onwards...

...any worthwhile suggestions as to what they can do with themselves anyone?

Clean up the turrrds on Southsea Common.

Compete in a new reality tv program .... I’m a skunt get me out of here (more details to follow)

st1halo wrote:
Judging by some of the comments I went back and checked it was the Echo and not the News site!!!

Regardless of individual errors and not walking away with all three points, no-one can fail to be impressed by the way we are dominating teams irrespective of where they are in the league table, home or away, or what form they are in.
MoPo reads the game in real time and acts accordingly, he has galvanised the team into a force in three weeks! I'm quite confident he will not ask the players where they think they are going wrong like Nigel. He will analyse it and tell them exactly. His ability and passion is there to be seen.

If we keep b1tchslappin' teams like this the points will come. IMO we are in the embryonic stage of becoming the best we have ever been. Great times await.

STID and proud!

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Whilst making the arduous journey back from Wigan, I got to do some thinking....

...presumably, there will be anything up to 10,000 skunts with nothing to do on a Saturday from May onwards...

...any worthwhile suggestions as to what they can do with themselves anyone?

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Whilst making the arduous journey back from Wigan, I got to do some thinking....

...presumably, there will be anything up to 10,000 skunts with nothing to do on a Saturday from May onwards...

...any worthwhile suggestions as to what they can do with themselves anyone?

saintkenny wrote:

up saints wrote:
does anyone know any forren information.is he injured or not match fit.

hes not match fit .beause norway has a midseason break .a couple of reserve games he should be fine .and will soon be seen in a saints shirt ,but this is the reason

MGRA wrote:
Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....

St.Winch70 wrote:

MGRA wrote:
Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....

I won't slate your post for being negative, I see it for what it is absolute nonsense.
If you think that yesterday was in anyway a tactical success for Martinez and Wigan then you are truly deluded.

There was major unrest and dissatisfaction from their supporters about how they fail to keep the ball and are 'worked and harried' out of games.
They were gifted a point yesterday, people who have an ounce of footballing knowledge could see that...
I'm sure MP will take onboard your other points and put them into practice at Staplewood on Monday.
Unbelievable some of the 'Fans' that post on this site.

bigfella777 wrote:

saintkenny wrote:

up saints wrote:
does anyone know any forren information.is he injured or not match fit.

hes not match fit .beause norway has a midseason break .a couple of reserve games he should be fine .and will soon be seen in a saints shirt ,but this is the reason

How does someone get match fit without playing a match?
And if they desperately needed a defender why did they get someone who is not match fit?
Redknapp signed Samba from Russia 12.5 mill (ridiculous) he had been on a break but went straight into yesterdays game and they got a 0-0 draw.
Yoshida is weak but I do forgive Shaw for giving them the equaliser as he was superb yesterday.
Boruc save was superb, I think he will beat Yoshy up soon.

Velleity wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:

saintkenny wrote:

up saints wrote:
does anyone know any forren information.is he injured or not match fit.

hes not match fit .beause norway has a midseason break .a couple of reserve games he should be fine .and will soon be seen in a saints shirt ,but this is the reason

How does someone get match fit without playing a match?
And if they desperately needed a defender why did they get someone who is not match fit?
Redknapp signed Samba from Russia 12.5 mill (ridiculous) he had been on a break but went straight into yesterdays game and they got a 0-0 draw.
Yoshida is weak but I do forgive Shaw for giving them the equaliser as he was superb yesterday.
Boruc save was superb, I think he will beat Yoshy up soon.

Why do you care about any of this? We know you're a Seagulls fan.

Or you were when we were in League One anyway. Have you now formally changed alliegance now that we're doing well? (Presumably until we hit a rough patch again). I think we should be told.

saintshorse101 wrote:
i really think that some of the posters on here want us to get relegated this season, poopey ones apart, just so that the can the say "told you so!" the amount of times i have read `we are going down, we would stay up with adkins, nc has made a big mistake, this that and those players are only champ quality,we are dropping too many points from winning positions` and of course the best of all `mark my words` its weird that some think like that, and worse that for supporting your team you get called a `happy clapper`.
i am not going to give the whole look where we were 3 years ago speach again, because they dont care ( i dont think some suported saints back then anyway).
the problem is that they are the sort of person that is `never wrong` and despite improved points gains against teams that beat us earlier in the season they are still not happy.
just have a look at all the `experts` opinions of us after the last three games and apart from merson not one thinks we are going down, and merson wants us relegated because adkins was sacked! chris perry was on the radio this morning talking about spuds and they asked him if saints would go down and straight away he replied "absolutely not, too much class, skill and quality". i know pundits get it wrong but i would rather take their opinions over some of the negatives we get on here.
anyone else noticed how the negs post more during a game then fade away when the fans who went to the game start posting the facts about the game. i love the fact we all have different points of view by the way i just fget fed up with the same posters saying the same thing week in week out when all they do is post carp.
rant over
a point next week would be ok but hope for three and think if we take the game to mancity from the start we could get a great result.

Velleity wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Whilst making the arduous journey back from Wigan, I got to do some thinking....

...presumably, there will be anything up to 10,000 skunts with nothing to do on a Saturday from May onwards...

...any worthwhile suggestions as to what they can do with themselves anyone?

They could come and support their local professional league football team; Saints.

They might actually realise that we have a decent team, an excellent setup and that we have a future having escaped from the hands of shysters in a way they seem to have missed.

It'd be great to hear their voices and to get our stadium so full it needs the expansion we saw on the plans at the turn of the season.

I suspect quite a few will do it on the quiet anyway. A few will never come, of course, and will look to the past rather than the future.

Bill, you know enough of my views on football rivalry to know that, yes, I'm being serious...and we should welcome them.

Velleity wrote:
PS. Sorry if that all sounds a bit gay.

bigfella777 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:

saintkenny wrote:

up saints wrote:
does anyone know any forren information.is he injured or not match fit.

hes not match fit .beause norway has a midseason break .a couple of reserve games he should be fine .and will soon be seen in a saints shirt ,but this is the reason

How does someone get match fit without playing a match?
And if they desperately needed a defender why did they get someone who is not match fit?
Redknapp signed Samba from Russia 12.5 mill (ridiculous) he had been on a break but went straight into yesterdays game and they got a 0-0 draw.
Yoshida is weak but I do forgive Shaw for giving them the equaliser as he was superb yesterday.
Boruc save was superb, I think he will beat Yoshy up soon.

Why do you care about any of this? We know you're a Seagulls fan.

Or you were when we were in League One anyway. Have you now formally changed alliegance now that we're doing well? (Presumably until we hit a rough patch again). I think we should be told.

I dont like seagulls, they are noisy and poop on cars.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

saintshorse101 wrote:
i really think that some of the posters on here want us to get relegated this season, poopey ones apart, just so that the can the say "told you so!" the amount of times i have read `we are going down, we would stay up with adkins, nc has made a big mistake, this that and those players are only champ quality,we are dropping too many points from winning positions` and of course the best of all `mark my words` its weird that some think like that, and worse that for supporting your team you get called a `happy clapper`.
i am not going to give the whole look where we were 3 years ago speach again, because they dont care ( i dont think some suported saints back then anyway).
the problem is that they are the sort of person that is `never wrong` and despite improved points gains against teams that beat us earlier in the season they are still not happy.
just have a look at all the `experts` opinions of us after the last three games and apart from merson not one thinks we are going down, and merson wants us relegated because adkins was sacked! chris perry was on the radio this morning talking about spuds and they asked him if saints would go down and straight away he replied "absolutely not, too much class, skill and quality". i know pundits get it wrong but i would rather take their opinions over some of the negatives we get on here.
anyone else noticed how the negs post more during a game then fade away when the fans who went to the game start posting the facts about the game. i love the fact we all have different points of view by the way i just fget fed up with the same posters saying the same thing week in week out when all they do is post carp.
rant over
a point next week would be ok but hope for three and think if we take the game to mancity from the start we could get a great result.

Absolutely. A couple of fans to our right were apparently moaning none stop and critising the players throughout the game. In the end some others rounded on them and absolutely lost it. I'm not an advocate of fans falling out with each other, that's what the skunts do, but enough is enough.

Maybe each and every one of us should have to disclose what we expect from the club. I really believe some would moan if we ended up 5th in a few years time and missed out on a CL spot. They would probably call for the managers head and pick a player or two to blame. It's appalling really and shows a mentality that I cannot understand.

Baddesley Bill wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:

saintkenny wrote:

up saints wrote:
does anyone know any forren information.is he injured or not match fit.

hes not match fit .beause norway has a midseason break .a couple of reserve games he should be fine .and will soon be seen in a saints shirt ,but this is the reason

How does someone get match fit without playing a match?
And if they desperately needed a defender why did they get someone who is not match fit?
Redknapp signed Samba from Russia 12.5 mill (ridiculous) he had been on a break but went straight into yesterdays game and they got a 0-0 draw.
Yoshida is weak but I do forgive Shaw for giving them the equaliser as he was superb yesterday.
Boruc save was superb, I think he will beat Yoshy up soon.

Why do you care about any of this? We know you're a Seagulls fan.

Or you were when we were in League One anyway. Have you now formally changed alliegance now that we're doing well? (Presumably until we hit a rough patch again). I think we should be told.

I dont like seagulls, they are noisy and poop on cars.

Another one for my proposed cage for ex-skunt supporters...bigfell

a can be employed to poop on them.

All are welcome...Together We Stand COYR

bigfella777 wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:

saintkenny wrote:

up saints wrote:
does anyone know any forren information.is he injured or not match fit.

hes not match fit .beause norway has a midseason break .a couple of reserve games he should be fine .and will soon be seen in a saints shirt ,but this is the reason

How does someone get match fit without playing a match?
And if they desperately needed a defender why did they get someone who is not match fit?
Redknapp signed Samba from Russia 12.5 mill (ridiculous) he had been on a break but went straight into yesterdays game and they got a 0-0 draw.
Yoshida is weak but I do forgive Shaw for giving them the equaliser as he was superb yesterday.
Boruc save was superb, I think he will beat Yoshy up soon.

Why do you care about any of this? We know you're a Seagulls fan.

Or you were when we were in League One anyway. Have you now formally changed alliegance now that we're doing well? (Presumably until we hit a rough patch again). I think we should be told.

I dont like seagulls, they are noisy and poop on cars.

Another one for my proposed cage for ex-skunt supporters...bigfell


a can be employed to poop on them.

All are welcome...Together We Stand COYR

Shut up BB you live in the Test valley, your not even from Southampton

slugger wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:

saintkenny wrote:

up saints wrote:
does anyone know any forren information.is he injured or not match fit.

hes not match fit .beause norway has a midseason break .a couple of reserve games he should be fine .and will soon be seen in a saints shirt ,but this is the reason

How does someone get match fit without playing a match?
And if they desperately needed a defender why did they get someone who is not match fit?
Redknapp signed Samba from Russia 12.5 mill (ridiculous) he had been on a break but went straight into yesterdays game and they got a 0-0 draw.
Yoshida is weak but I do forgive Shaw for giving them the equaliser as he was superb yesterday.
Boruc save was superb, I think he will beat Yoshy up soon.

Why do you care about any of this? We know you're a Seagulls fan.

Or you were when we were in League One anyway. Have you now formally changed alliegance now that we're doing well? (Presumably until we hit a rough patch again). I think we should be told.

I dont like seagulls, they are noisy and poop on cars.

Another one for my proposed cage for ex-skunt supporters...bigfell



a can be employed to poop on them.

All are welcome...Together We Stand COYR

Shut up BB you live in the Test valley, your not even from Southampton

Nor is Matt le tiss ........ your point ?

Mush On The Beach wrote:

Velleity wrote:
PS. Sorry if that all sounds a bit gay.

BBB – Big Bertie B0llocks Branfoot loves sucking up to the skunt WUMS on here, but I can categorically say you are both piiiisssssssing in the wind on this one.

Their next generation will be red and white and that will send a lot of the oldies skunts to an early grave, freeing up the national debt on pensions. Our continual success is a boost to the nations GDP.

God Bless Southampton :)

st1halo wrote:
Judging by some of the comments I went back and checked it was the Echo and not the News site!!!

Regardless of individual errors and not walking away with all three points, no-one can fail to be impressed by the way we are dominating teams irrespective of where they are in the league table, home or away, or what form they are in.
MoPo reads the game in real time and acts accordingly, he has galvanised the team into a force in three weeks! I'm quite confident he will not ask the players where they think they are going wrong like Nigel. He will analyse it and tell them exactly. His ability and passion is there to be seen.

If we keep b1tchslappin' teams like this the points will come. IMO we are in the embryonic stage of becoming the best we have ever been. Great times await.

STID and proud!

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

slugger wrote:

SFCOLDBOY wrote:
Nice to have bumped into Seedhouse and Bad Bill yesterday.

Bill, did you get that pie?

Not too sure they looked as good as they are reputed to be.

Do you mean the pies , or Seed and Bill ?

Ignore Slugger, he can be very silly at times.

Good to meet you and Insane too. What a great bar, stadium and people. Goes to show what can be done when the owner is a football man.

Bill and Seed the Small went meat and potato and weren't overly impressed but my chunky steak was a top pie.

Nearly home. Great weekend.

I didn't taste mine...just downed it in one! :O)

since 1885 wrote:
And I don't get the since 1885 - 2013 gag. You'll have to explain it to me son, at present it's flying over me head. Best you jog on!

since 1885 wrote:

Mush On The Beach wrote:

Velleity wrote:
PS. Sorry if that all sounds a bit gay.

BBB – Big Bertie B0llocks Branfoot loves sucking up to the skunt WUMS on here, but I can categorically say you are both piiiisssssssing in the wind on this one.

Their next generation will be red and white and that will send a lot of the oldies skunts to an early grave, freeing up the national debt on pensions. Our continual success is a boost to the nations GDP.

God Bless Southampton :)

Checking in with another humdinger of a post. Mush Beach you keep mentioning me in your posts, I don't know how to let you down gently but I don't swing that way. To each is own and all that, but your barking up the wrong tree with me sweetheart! But I can't help thinking that we are hogging you Mushy. Your dearest and nearest must be pining for some of your attention. We mustn't be greedy now. Good to hear from you Mushy!

bigfella777 wrote:

slugger wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:

saintkenny wrote:

up saints wrote:
does anyone know any forren information.is he injured or not match fit.

hes not match fit .beause norway has a midseason break .a couple of reserve games he should be fine .and will soon be seen in a saints shirt ,but this is the reason

How does someone get match fit without playing a match?
And if they desperately needed a defender why did they get someone who is not match fit?
Redknapp signed Samba from Russia 12.5 mill (ridiculous) he had been on a break but went straight into yesterdays game and they got a 0-0 draw.
Yoshida is weak but I do forgive Shaw for giving them the equaliser as he was superb yesterday.
Boruc save was superb, I think he will beat Yoshy up soon.

Why do you care about any of this? We know you're a Seagulls fan.

Or you were when we were in League One anyway. Have you now formally changed alliegance now that we're doing well? (Presumably until we hit a rough patch again). I think we should be told.

I dont like seagulls, they are noisy and poop on cars.

Another one for my proposed cage for ex-skunt supporters...bigfell




a can be employed to poop on them.

All are welcome...Together We Stand COYR

Shut up BB you live in the Test valley, your not even from Southampton

Nor is Matt le tiss ........ your point ?

Neither is Dame Edna Etheridge, what's your point?

Velleity wrote:

since 1885 wrote:

Mush On The Beach wrote:

Velleity wrote:
PS. Sorry if that all sounds a bit gay.

BBB – Big Bertie B0llocks Branfoot loves sucking up to the skunt WUMS on here, but I can categorically say you are both piiiisssssssing in the wind on this one.

Their next generation will be red and white and that will send a lot of the oldies skunts to an early grave, freeing up the national debt on pensions. Our continual success is a boost to the nations GDP.

God Bless Southampton :)

Checking in with another humdinger of a post. Mush Beach you keep mentioning me in your posts, I don't know how to let you down gently but I don't swing that way. To each is own and all that, but your barking up the wrong tree with me sweetheart! But I can't help thinking that we are hogging you Mushy. Your dearest and nearest must be pining for some of your attention. We mustn't be greedy now. Good to hear from you Mushy!

So, let's be crystal clear about this:

since1885 and Bring Back Branfoot are one and the same. It's always the same - multiple signons ALWAYS get caught out using the wrong log in to answer posts aimed at another signon name.

So that's since1885, Bring Back Branfoot and saintlysoul (his more gentle alter ego) all linked. All the same idiot.

Result!

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Whilst making the arduous journey back from Wigan, I got to do some thinking....

...presumably, there will be anything up to 10,000 skunts with nothing to do on a Saturday from May onwards...

...any worthwhile suggestions as to what they can do with themselves anyone?

SaintinCanada wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Whilst making the arduous journey back from Wigan, I got to do some thinking....

...presumably, there will be anything up to 10,000 skunts with nothing to do on a Saturday from May onwards...

...any worthwhile suggestions as to what they can do with themselves anyone?

They should get ready for another history session to use against us.

It took SFC two back to back seasons to get to the Premier.

P**pey could get there in THREE back-to-backs. Make no mistake, they are on course for this as early as next season.

St.Winch70 wrote:

MGRA wrote:
Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....

I won't slate your post for being negative, I see it for what it is absolute nonsense.
If you think that yesterday was in anyway a tactical success for Martinez and Wigan then you are truly deluded.

There was major unrest and dissatisfaction from their supporters about how they fail to keep the ball and are 'worked and harried' out of games.
They were gifted a point yesterday, people who have an ounce of footballing knowledge could see that...
I'm sure MP will take onboard your other points and put them into practice at Staplewood on Monday.
Unbelievable some of the 'Fans' that post on this site.

SaintinCanada wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Whilst making the arduous journey back from Wigan, I got to do some thinking....

...presumably, there will be anything up to 10,000 skunts with nothing to do on a Saturday from May onwards...

...any worthwhile suggestions as to what they can do with themselves anyone?

They should get ready for another history session to use against us.

It took SFC two back to back seasons to get to the Premier.

P**pey could get there in THREE back-to-backs. Make no mistake, they are on course for this as early as next season.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
If 1885 isn't a skunt then he's an embarrassment with his attitude to other Saints fans.

st1halo wrote:

SaintinCanada wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Whilst making the arduous journey back from Wigan, I got to do some thinking....

...presumably, there will be anything up to 10,000 skunts with nothing to do on a Saturday from May onwards...

...any worthwhile suggestions as to what they can do with themselves anyone?

They should get ready for another history session to use against us.

It took SFC two back to back seasons to get to the Premier.

P**pey could get there in THREE back-to-backs. Make no mistake, they are on course for this as early as next season.

Not wanting to be outdone the Skates are matching our back to back promotions with back to back relegations! They are going to sign Eddie the Eagle as he has plenty of experience going downhill fast!

STID

MGRA wrote:

St.Winch70 wrote:

MGRA wrote:
Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....

I won't slate your post for being negative, I see it for what it is absolute nonsense.
If you think that yesterday was in anyway a tactical success for Martinez and Wigan then you are truly deluded.

There was major unrest and dissatisfaction from their supporters about how they fail to keep the ball and are 'worked and harried' out of games.
They were gifted a point yesterday, people who have an ounce of footballing knowledge could see that...
I'm sure MP will take onboard your other points and put them into practice at Staplewood on Monday.
Unbelievable some of the 'Fans' that post on this site.

you are deluded. Wigan are staying up. Anyone who knows anything about football sees this.... they are interested in POINTS.... we were out-thought AGAIN.... saints hopefully will scrape survival but Wigan gave a masterclass about how to play football at this level.. its not about possession, pretty football and how rubbish we are at scoring. Its about how to win games.... I posted before the game that wigan would get 2 out of nothing and we would have to outscore them.... this is not rocket science, we can be congratutlated for being the best footballing side ever to be relegated,but it still means we go down....."fans" are those that know the game, martinez is a clever guy, and if you are too stpid to see it you know a lot less than you though, Wigan have mugged us twice this season.... simples....

slugger wrote:
A serious question to the negative posters (that aren't skates) , where did you expect us to be at this stage of the season ?

since 1885 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

since 1885 wrote:

Mush On The Beach wrote:

Velleity wrote:
PS. Sorry if that all sounds a bit gay.

BBB – Big Bertie B0llocks Branfoot loves sucking up to the skunt WUMS on here, but I can categorically say you are both piiiisssssssing in the wind on this one.

Their next generation will be red and white and that will send a lot of the oldies skunts to an early grave, freeing up the national debt on pensions. Our continual success is a boost to the nations GDP.

God Bless Southampton :)

Checking in with another humdinger of a post. Mush Beach you keep mentioning me in your posts, I don't know how to let you down gently but I don't swing that way. To each is own and all that, but your barking up the wrong tree with me sweetheart! But I can't help thinking that we are hogging you Mushy. Your dearest and nearest must be pining for some of your attention. We mustn't be greedy now. Good to hear from you Mushy!

So, let's be crystal clear about this:

since1885 and Bring Back Branfoot are one and the same. It's always the same - multiple signons ALWAYS get caught out using the wrong log in to answer posts aimed at another signon name.

So that's since1885, Bring Back Branfoot and saintlysoul (his more gentle alter ego) all linked. All the same idiot.

Result!

You again, I applaud pilots who can fly planes! As I was saying to Mush, reading last nights thread I was constantly been mentioned by you. As I said I ain't interested son, I'm straight. And it's Since 1885 treacle!

Baddesley Bill wrote:

MGRA wrote:

St.Winch70 wrote:

MGRA wrote:
Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....

I won't slate your post for being negative, I see it for what it is absolute nonsense.
If you think that yesterday was in anyway a tactical success for Martinez and Wigan then you are truly deluded.

There was major unrest and dissatisfaction from their supporters about how they fail to keep the ball and are 'worked and harried' out of games.
They were gifted a point yesterday, people who have an ounce of footballing knowledge could see that...
I'm sure MP will take onboard your other points and put them into practice at Staplewood on Monday.
Unbelievable some of the 'Fans' that post on this site.

you are deluded. Wigan are staying up. Anyone who knows anything about football sees this.... they are interested in POINTS.... we were out-thought AGAIN.... saints hopefully will scrape survival but Wigan gave a masterclass about how to play football at this level.. its not about possession, pretty football and how rubbish we are at scoring. Its about how to win games.... I posted before the game that wigan would get 2 out of nothing and we would have to outscore them.... this is not rocket science, we can be congratutlated for being the best footballing side ever to be relegated,but it still means we go down....."fans" are those that know the game, martinez is a clever guy, and if you are too stpid to see it you know a lot less than you though, Wigan have mugged us twice this season.... simples....

MGRA...you are just looking to pick an arguement for no particular reason again.

Just as well part of the Wigan game plan was to let us take the lead during our period of dominance.

Master tactician that Martinez.

saintlysoul wrote:

since 1885 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

since 1885 wrote:

Mush On The Beach wrote:

Velleity wrote:
PS. Sorry if that all sounds a bit gay.

BBB – Big Bertie B0llocks Branfoot loves sucking up to the skunt WUMS on here, but I can categorically say you are both piiiisssssssing in the wind on this one.

Their next generation will be red and white and that will send a lot of the oldies skunts to an early grave, freeing up the national debt on pensions. Our continual success is a boost to the nations GDP.

God Bless Southampton :)

Checking in with another humdinger of a post. Mush Beach you keep mentioning me in your posts, I don't know how to let you down gently but I don't swing that way. To each is own and all that, but your barking up the wrong tree with me sweetheart! But I can't help thinking that we are hogging you Mushy. Your dearest and nearest must be pining for some of your attention. We mustn't be greedy now. Good to hear from you Mushy!

So, let's be crystal clear about this:

since1885 and Bring Back Branfoot are one and the same. It's always the same - multiple signons ALWAYS get caught out using the wrong log in to answer posts aimed at another signon name.

So that's since1885, Bring Back Branfoot and saintlysoul (his more gentle alter ego) all linked. All the same idiot.

Result!

You again, I applaud pilots who can fly planes! As I was saying to Mush, reading last nights thread I was constantly been mentioned by you. As I said I ain't interested son, I'm straight. And it's Since 1885 treacle!

Valerie you are a complete and utter **** who bores people constantly talking out of your back passage!!!

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:
A serious question to the negative posters (that aren't skates) , where did you expect us to be at this stage of the season ?

i expected us to be pretty much exactly where we are now.... but i did not expect so much delusion about our situation and how "unlucky" we are playing this "great football". I like to watch it, but We also need to finish above 3 other teams so a bit more realism would go down a treat tbo,,,, I negative/positive is playground stuff... I prefer fantasy/realism. i want ths season to be a survival mission because I am CONVINCED we will flourish if we stay up, but we have to loose this pathetic "we play great football" label , we don't if we don't get the wins we should, and being more clever about games and getting to 38 points ( which I think will be saftey ) if our priority. This is the opposite of being negative, this is a positive point of view, smarten-up , survive and then onwards and upwards.

MGRA wrote:

St.Winch70 wrote:

MGRA wrote:
Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....

I won't slate your post for being negative, I see it for what it is absolute nonsense.
If you think that yesterday was in anyway a tactical success for Martinez and Wigan then you are truly deluded.

There was major unrest and dissatisfaction from their supporters about how they fail to keep the ball and are 'worked and harried' out of games.
They were gifted a point yesterday, people who have an ounce of footballing knowledge could see that...
I'm sure MP will take onboard your other points and put them into practice at Staplewood on Monday.
Unbelievable some of the 'Fans' that post on this site.

you are deluded. Wigan are staying up. Anyone who knows anything about football sees this.... they are interested in POINTS.... we were out-thought AGAIN.... saints hopefully will scrape survival but Wigan gave a masterclass about how to play football at this level.. its not about possession, pretty football and how rubbish we are at scoring. Its about how to win games.... I posted before the game that wigan would get 2 out of nothing and we would have to outscore them.... this is not rocket science, we can be congratutlated for being the best footballing side ever to be relegated,but it still means we go down....."fans" are those that know the game, martinez is a clever guy, and if you are too stpid to see it you know a lot less than you though, Wigan have mugged us twice this season.... simples....

MGRA wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

MGRA wrote:

St.Winch70 wrote:

MGRA wrote:
Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....

I won't slate your post for being negative, I see it for what it is absolute nonsense.
If you think that yesterday was in anyway a tactical success for Martinez and Wigan then you are truly deluded.

There was major unrest and dissatisfaction from their supporters about how they fail to keep the ball and are 'worked and harried' out of games.
They were gifted a point yesterday, people who have an ounce of footballing knowledge could see that...
I'm sure MP will take onboard your other points and put them into practice at Staplewood on Monday.
Unbelievable some of the 'Fans' that post on this site.

you are deluded. Wigan are staying up. Anyone who knows anything about football sees this.... they are interested in POINTS.... we were out-thought AGAIN.... saints hopefully will scrape survival but Wigan gave a masterclass about how to play football at this level.. its not about possession, pretty football and how rubbish we are at scoring. Its about how to win games.... I posted before the game that wigan would get 2 out of nothing and we would have to outscore them.... this is not rocket science, we can be congratutlated for being the best footballing side ever to be relegated,but it still means we go down....."fans" are those that know the game, martinez is a clever guy, and if you are too stpid to see it you know a lot less than you though, Wigan have mugged us twice this season.... simples....

MGRA...you are just looking to pick an arguement for no particular reason again.

Just as well part of the Wigan game plan was to let us take the lead during our period of dominance.

Master tactician that Martinez.

no argument. Just want to be realistic. Wigan were the better side on Saturday, they know how to cater for the oppostion and they will stay up , against the odds, again. I love watching attacking football as much as the next guy but we have not got the edge up front to convert it as this level. We need to mix flair with a bit of thinking and its clear we are not a team that can pace the game for 90 minutes. I am not sure what is so controversial here, its obvious stuff isn't it ?

MGRA wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

MGRA wrote:

St.Winch70 wrote:

MGRA wrote:
Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....

I won't slate your post for being negative, I see it for what it is absolute nonsense.
If you think that yesterday was in anyway a tactical success for Martinez and Wigan then you are truly deluded.

There was major unrest and dissatisfaction from their supporters about how they fail to keep the ball and are 'worked and harried' out of games.
They were gifted a point yesterday, people who have an ounce of footballing knowledge could see that...
I'm sure MP will take onboard your other points and put them into practice at Staplewood on Monday.
Unbelievable some of the 'Fans' that post on this site.

you are deluded. Wigan are staying up. Anyone who knows anything about football sees this.... they are interested in POINTS.... we were out-thought AGAIN.... saints hopefully will scrape survival but Wigan gave a masterclass about how to play football at this level.. its not about possession, pretty football and how rubbish we are at scoring. Its about how to win games.... I posted before the game that wigan would get 2 out of nothing and we would have to outscore them.... this is not rocket science, we can be congratutlated for being the best footballing side ever to be relegated,but it still means we go down....."fans" are those that know the game, martinez is a clever guy, and if you are too stpid to see it you know a lot less than you though, Wigan have mugged us twice this season.... simples....

MGRA...you are just looking to pick an arguement for no particular reason again.

Just as well part of the Wigan game plan was to let us take the lead during our period of dominance.

Master tactician that Martinez.

no argument. Just want to be realistic. Wigan were the better side on Saturday, they know how to cater for the oppostion and they will stay up , against the odds, again. I love watching attacking football as much as the next guy but we have not got the edge up front to convert it as this level. We need to mix flair with a bit of thinking and its clear we are not a team that can pace the game for 90 minutes. I am not sure what is so controversial here, its obvious stuff isn't it ?

MGRA wrote:

St.Winch70 wrote:

MGRA wrote:
Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....

I won't slate your post for being negative, I see it for what it is absolute nonsense.
If you think that yesterday was in anyway a tactical success for Martinez and Wigan then you are truly deluded.

There was major unrest and dissatisfaction from their supporters about how they fail to keep the ball and are 'worked and harried' out of games.
They were gifted a point yesterday, people who have an ounce of footballing knowledge could see that...
I'm sure MP will take onboard your other points and put them into practice at Staplewood on Monday.
Unbelievable some of the 'Fans' that post on this site.

you are deluded. Wigan are staying up. Anyone who knows anything about football sees this.... they are interested in POINTS.... we were out-thought AGAIN.... saints hopefully will scrape survival but Wigan gave a masterclass about how to play football at this level.. its not about possession, pretty football and how rubbish we are at scoring. Its about how to win games.... I posted before the game that wigan would get 2 out of nothing and we would have to outscore them.... this is not rocket science, we can be congratutlated for being the best footballing side ever to be relegated,but it still means we go down....."fans" are those that know the game, martinez is a clever guy, and if you are too stpid to see it you know a lot less than you though, Wigan have mugged us twice this season.... simples....

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The skunts are feisty tonight. Not long now.


14.2.13

Baddesley Bill wrote:

MGRA wrote:

St.Winch70 wrote:

MGRA wrote:
Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....

I won't slate your post for being negative, I see it for what it is absolute nonsense.
If you think that yesterday was in anyway a tactical success for Martinez and Wigan then you are truly deluded.

There was major unrest and dissatisfaction from their supporters about how they fail to keep the ball and are 'worked and harried' out of games.
They were gifted a point yesterday, people who have an ounce of footballing knowledge could see that...
I'm sure MP will take onboard your other points and put them into practice at Staplewood on Monday.
Unbelievable some of the 'Fans' that post on this site.

you are deluded. Wigan are staying up. Anyone who knows anything about football sees this.... they are interested in POINTS.... we were out-thought AGAIN.... saints hopefully will scrape survival but Wigan gave a masterclass about how to play football at this level.. its not about possession, pretty football and how rubbish we are at scoring. Its about how to win games.... I posted before the game that wigan would get 2 out of nothing and we would have to outscore them.... this is not rocket science, we can be congratutlated for being the best footballing side ever to be relegated,but it still means we go down....."fans" are those that know the game, martinez is a clever guy, and if you are too stpid to see it you know a lot less than you though, Wigan have mugged us twice this season.... simples....

MGRA...you are just looking to pick an arguement for no particular reason again.

Just as well part of the Wigan game plan was to let us take the lead during our period of dominance.

Master tactician that Martinez.

st1halo wrote:

MGRA wrote:

St.Winch70 wrote:

MGRA wrote:
Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....

I won't slate your post for being negative, I see it for what it is absolute nonsense.
If you think that yesterday was in anyway a tactical success for Martinez and Wigan then you are truly deluded.

There was major unrest and dissatisfaction from their supporters about how they fail to keep the ball and are 'worked and harried' out of games.
They were gifted a point yesterday, people who have an ounce of footballing knowledge could see that...
I'm sure MP will take onboard your other points and put them into practice at Staplewood on Monday.
Unbelievable some of the 'Fans' that post on this site.

you are deluded. Wigan are staying up. Anyone who knows anything about football sees this.... they are interested in POINTS.... we were out-thought AGAIN.... saints hopefully will scrape survival but Wigan gave a masterclass about how to play football at this level.. its not about possession, pretty football and how rubbish we are at scoring. Its about how to win games.... I posted before the game that wigan would get 2 out of nothing and we would have to outscore them.... this is not rocket science, we can be congratutlated for being the best footballing side ever to be relegated,but it still means we go down....."fans" are those that know the game, martinez is a clever guy, and if you are too stpid to see it you know a lot less than you though, Wigan have mugged us twice this season.... simples....

This is just wrong on so many levels

1) Wigan are staying up. Anyone who knows anything about football sees this....

Most experts agree that they escaped relegation by changing formation last year to three at the back, flooding midfield and pushing forward in numbers and that this option will not be available this year as most opposition teams have done their homework so escaping is going to be very difficult.

2) Wigan gave a masterclass about how to play football at this level.. its not about possession, pretty football and how rubbish we are at scoring. Its about how to win games....

If being out-muscled, out-played and generally b1tchslapped whilst playing at home is a tactic, I'd be very surprised. Certainly one I hope we don't employ!
This masterclass didn't extend to them winning then?

3)....."fans" are those that know the game, martinez is a clever guy
Obviously not clever enough to steer the team away from relegation threats over the years though. I'd say and the stats reinforce he is at about his level in football.

Our weakness is set pieces, both offensive and defensive, if we had those right we would have anihilated Wigan yesterday.


STID

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The skunts are feisty tonight. Not long now.


14.2.13

I see you have been applying some flyspray (simple facts) to the hornets nest (news site).

...they really don't like it do they! :O)

slugger wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The skunts are feisty tonight. Not long now.


14.2.13

I see you have been applying some flyspray (simple facts) to the hornets nest (news site).

...they really don't like it do they! :O)

I do worry about Blue Walter (seems a decent sort) ........ will he top himself ? ..... his family should keep an eye on him ........... COYR !!!

MGRA wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

MGRA wrote:

St.Winch70 wrote:

MGRA wrote:
Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....

I won't slate your post for being negative, I see it for what it is absolute nonsense.
If you think that yesterday was in anyway a tactical success for Martinez and Wigan then you are truly deluded.

There was major unrest and dissatisfaction from their supporters about how they fail to keep the ball and are 'worked and harried' out of games.
They were gifted a point yesterday, people who have an ounce of footballing knowledge could see that...
I'm sure MP will take onboard your other points and put them into practice at Staplewood on Monday.
Unbelievable some of the 'Fans' that post on this site.

you are deluded. Wigan are staying up. Anyone who knows anything about football sees this.... they are interested in POINTS.... we were out-thought AGAIN.... saints hopefully will scrape survival but Wigan gave a masterclass about how to play football at this level.. its not about possession, pretty football and how rubbish we are at scoring. Its about how to win games.... I posted before the game that wigan would get 2 out of nothing and we would have to outscore them.... this is not rocket science, we can be congratutlated for being the best footballing side ever to be relegated,but it still means we go down....."fans" are those that know the game, martinez is a clever guy, and if you are too stpid to see it you know a lot less than you though, Wigan have mugged us twice this season.... simples....

MGRA...you are just looking to pick an arguement for no particular reason again.

Just as well part of the Wigan game plan was to let us take the lead during our period of dominance.

Master tactician that Martinez.

no argument. Just want to be realistic. Wigan were the better side on Saturday, they know how to cater for the oppostion and they will stay up , against the odds, again. I love watching attacking football as much as the next guy but we have not got the edge up front to convert it as this level. We need to mix flair with a bit of thinking and its clear we are not a team that can pace the game for 90 minutes. I am not sure what is so controversial here, its obvious stuff isn't it ?

slugger wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The skunts are feisty tonight. Not long now.


14.2.13

I see you have been applying some flyspray (simple facts) to the hornets nest (news site).

...they really don't like it do they! :O)

I do worry about Blue Walter (seems a decent sort) ........ will he top himself ? ..... his family should keep an eye on him ........... COYR !!!

MGRA wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

MGRA wrote:

St.Winch70 wrote:

MGRA wrote:
Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....

I won't slate your post for being negative, I see it for what it is absolute nonsense.
If you think that yesterday was in anyway a tactical success for Martinez and Wigan then you are truly deluded.

There was major unrest and dissatisfaction from their supporters about how they fail to keep the ball and are 'worked and harried' out of games.
They were gifted a point yesterday, people who have an ounce of footballing knowledge could see that...
I'm sure MP will take onboard your other points and put them into practice at Staplewood on Monday.
Unbelievable some of the 'Fans' that post on this site.

you are deluded. Wigan are staying up. Anyone who knows anything about football sees this.... they are interested in POINTS.... we were out-thought AGAIN.... saints hopefully will scrape survival but Wigan gave a masterclass about how to play football at this level.. its not about possession, pretty football and how rubbish we are at scoring. Its about how to win games.... I posted before the game that wigan would get 2 out of nothing and we would have to outscore them.... this is not rocket science, we can be congratutlated for being the best footballing side ever to be relegated,but it still means we go down....."fans" are those that know the game, martinez is a clever guy, and if you are too stpid to see it you know a lot less than you though, Wigan have mugged us twice this season.... simples....

MGRA...you are just looking to pick an arguement for no particular reason again.

Just as well part of the Wigan game plan was to let us take the lead during our period of dominance.

Master tactician that Martinez.

no argument. Just want to be realistic. Wigan were the better side on Saturday, they know how to cater for the oppostion and they will stay up , against the odds, again. I love watching attacking football as much as the next guy but we have not got the edge up front to convert it as this level. We need to mix flair with a bit of thinking and its clear we are not a team that can pace the game for 90 minutes. I am not sure what is so controversial here, its obvious stuff isn't it ?

Velleity wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:

since 1885 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

since 1885 wrote:

Mush On The Beach wrote:

Velleity wrote:
PS. Sorry if that all sounds a bit gay.

BBB – Big Bertie B0llocks Branfoot loves sucking up to the skunt WUMS on here, but I can categorically say you are both piiiisssssssing in the wind on this one.

Their next generation will be red and white and that will send a lot of the oldies skunts to an early grave, freeing up the national debt on pensions. Our continual success is a boost to the nations GDP.

God Bless Southampton :)

Checking in with another humdinger of a post. Mush Beach you keep mentioning me in your posts, I don't know how to let you down gently but I don't swing that way. To each is own and all that, but your barking up the wrong tree with me sweetheart! But I can't help thinking that we are hogging you Mushy. Your dearest and nearest must be pining for some of your attention. We mustn't be greedy now. Good to hear from you Mushy!

So, let's be crystal clear about this:

since1885 and Bring Back Branfoot are one and the same. It's always the same - multiple signons ALWAYS get caught out using the wrong log in to answer posts aimed at another signon name.

So that's since1885, Bring Back Branfoot and saintlysoul (his more gentle alter ego) all linked. All the same idiot.

Result!

You again, I applaud pilots who can fly planes! As I was saying to Mush, reading last nights thread I was constantly been mentioned by you. As I said I ain't interested son, I'm straight. And it's Since 1885 treacle!

Valerie you are a complete and utter **** who bores people constantly talking out of your back passage!!!

Look, Saintlysoul/BBB/sinc

e1885, what you need to do is go away and lie in a dark room for a while, select one of your signons to use and stop pretending to be three different people. It doesn't work and just makes you look a bit of a twit.

saintshorse101 wrote:
i really think that some of the posters on here want us to get relegated this season, poopey ones apart, just so that the can the say "told you so!" the amount of times i have read `we are going down, we would stay up with adkins, nc has made a big mistake, this that and those players are only champ quality,we are dropping too many points from winning positions` and of course the best of all `mark my words` its weird that some think like that, and worse that for supporting your team you get called a `happy clapper`.
i am not going to give the whole look where we were 3 years ago speach again, because they dont care ( i dont think some suported saints back then anyway).
the problem is that they are the sort of person that is `never wrong` and despite improved points gains against teams that beat us earlier in the season they are still not happy.
just have a look at all the `experts` opinions of us after the last three games and apart from merson not one thinks we are going down, and merson wants us relegated because adkins was sacked! chris perry was on the radio this morning talking about spuds and they asked him if saints would go down and straight away he replied "absolutely not, too much class, skill and quality". i know pundits get it wrong but i would rather take their opinions over some of the negatives we get on here.
anyone else noticed how the negs post more during a game then fade away when the fans who went to the game start posting the facts about the game. i love the fact we all have different points of view by the way i just fget fed up with the same posters saying the same thing week in week out when all they do is post carp.
rant over
a point next week would be ok but hope for three and think if we take the game to mancity from the start we could get a great result.

saintlysoul wrote:

Velleity wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:

since 1885 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

since 1885 wrote:

Mush On The Beach wrote:

Velleity wrote:
PS. Sorry if that all sounds a bit gay.

BBB – Big Bertie B0llocks Branfoot loves sucking up to the skunt WUMS on here, but I can categorically say you are both piiiisssssssing in the wind on this one.

Their next generation will be red and white and that will send a lot of the oldies skunts to an early grave, freeing up the national debt on pensions. Our continual success is a boost to the nations GDP.

God Bless Southampton :)

Checking in with another humdinger of a post. Mush Beach you keep mentioning me in your posts, I don't know how to let you down gently but I don't swing that way. To each is own and all that, but your barking up the wrong tree with me sweetheart! But I can't help thinking that we are hogging you Mushy. Your dearest and nearest must be pining for some of your attention. We mustn't be greedy now. Good to hear from you Mushy!

So, let's be crystal clear about this:

since1885 and Bring Back Branfoot are one and the same. It's always the same - multiple signons ALWAYS get caught out using the wrong log in to answer posts aimed at another signon name.

So that's since1885, Bring Back Branfoot and saintlysoul (his more gentle alter ego) all linked. All the same idiot.

Result!

You again, I applaud pilots who can fly planes! As I was saying to Mush, reading last nights thread I was constantly been mentioned by you. As I said I ain't interested son, I'm straight. And it's Since 1885 treacle!

Valerie you are a complete and utter **** who bores people constantly talking out of your back passage!!!

Look, Saintlysoul/BBB/sinc


e1885, what you need to do is go away and lie in a dark room for a while, select one of your signons to use and stop pretending to be three different people. It doesn't work and just makes you look a bit of a twit.

Valerie you've broken your word you said you'd never respond to one of my texts again!!!! 'A bit of a twit' ok have a look at my posts - you seem to spend a lot of time checking them- and see how many accurate posts I have actually posted. It's a shame you are the way you are.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:

Velleity wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:

since 1885 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

since 1885 wrote:

Mush On The Beach wrote:

Velleity wrote:
PS. Sorry if that all sounds a bit gay.

BBB – Big Bertie B0llocks Branfoot loves sucking up to the skunt WUMS on here, but I can categorically say you are both piiiisssssssing in the wind on this one.

Their next generation will be red and white and that will send a lot of the oldies skunts to an early grave, freeing up the national debt on pensions. Our continual success is a boost to the nations GDP.

God Bless Southampton :)

Checking in with another humdinger of a post. Mush Beach you keep mentioning me in your posts, I don't know how to let you down gently but I don't swing that way. To each is own and all that, but your barking up the wrong tree with me sweetheart! But I can't help thinking that we are hogging you Mushy. Your dearest and nearest must be pining for some of your attention. We mustn't be greedy now. Good to hear from you Mushy!

So, let's be crystal clear about this:

since1885 and Bring Back Branfoot are one and the same. It's always the same - multiple signons ALWAYS get caught out using the wrong log in to answer posts aimed at another signon name.

So that's since1885, Bring Back Branfoot and saintlysoul (his more gentle alter ego) all linked. All the same idiot.

Result!

You again, I applaud pilots who can fly planes! As I was saying to Mush, reading last nights thread I was constantly been mentioned by you. As I said I ain't interested son, I'm straight. And it's Since 1885 treacle!

Valerie you are a complete and utter **** who bores people constantly talking out of your back passage!!!

Look, Saintlysoul/BBB/sinc



e1885, what you need to do is go away and lie in a dark room for a while, select one of your signons to use and stop pretending to be three different people. It doesn't work and just makes you look a bit of a twit.

Valerie you've broken your word you said you'd never respond to one of my texts again!!!! 'A bit of a twit' ok have a look at my posts - you seem to spend a lot of time checking them- and see how many accurate posts I have actually posted. It's a shame you are the way you are.

You did say Luke Shaw was going out on loan - which given the defensive frailties of Fox and the fact Shaw has had a massive impact in our back four did seem daft.

Velleity wrote:
You also said there was NO MONEY.

In case you've forgotten, you posted that under your 'Saintlysoul' pseudonym, not 'BBB' or 'since1885'.

MGRA wrote:

St.Winch70 wrote:

MGRA wrote: Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....

I won't slate your post for being negative, I see it for what it is absolute nonsense. If you think that yesterday was in anyway a tactical success for Martinez and Wigan then you are truly deluded. There was major unrest and dissatisfaction from their supporters about how they fail to keep the ball and are 'worked and harried' out of games. They were gifted a point yesterday, people who have an ounce of footballing knowledge could see that... I'm sure MP will take onboard your other points and put them into practice at Staplewood on Monday. Unbelievable some of the 'Fans' that post on this site.

you are deluded. Wigan are staying up. Anyone who knows anything about football sees this.... they are interested in POINTS.... we were out-thought AGAIN.... saints hopefully will scrape survival but Wigan gave a masterclass about how to play football at this level.. its not about possession, pretty football and how rubbish we are at scoring. Its about how to win games.... I posted before the game that wigan would get 2 out of nothing and we would have to outscore them.... this is not rocket science, we can be congratutlated for being the best footballing side ever to be relegated,but it still means we go down....."fans" are those that know the game, martinez is a clever guy, and if you are too stpid to see it you know a lot less than you though, Wigan have mugged us twice this season.... simples....

slugger wrote:
I think the problem starts when some say that their info is "fact" , it never is and never will be !

slugger wrote:
I think the problem starts when some say that their info is "fact" , it never is and never will be !

saintlysoul wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:

Velleity wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:

since 1885 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

since 1885 wrote:

Mush On The Beach wrote:

Velleity wrote:
PS. Sorry if that all sounds a bit gay.

BBB – Big Bertie B0llocks Branfoot loves sucking up to the skunt WUMS on here, but I can categorically say you are both piiiisssssssing in the wind on this one.

Their next generation will be red and white and that will send a lot of the oldies skunts to an early grave, freeing up the national debt on pensions. Our continual success is a boost to the nations GDP.

God Bless Southampton :)

Checking in with another humdinger of a post. Mush Beach you keep mentioning me in your posts, I don't know how to let you down gently but I don't swing that way. To each is own and all that, but your barking up the wrong tree with me sweetheart! But I can't help thinking that we are hogging you Mushy. Your dearest and nearest must be pining for some of your attention. We mustn't be greedy now. Good to hear from you Mushy!

So, let's be crystal clear about this:

since1885 and Bring Back Branfoot are one and the same. It's always the same - multiple signons ALWAYS get caught out using the wrong log in to answer posts aimed at another signon name.

So that's since1885, Bring Back Branfoot and saintlysoul (his more gentle alter ego) all linked. All the same idiot.

Result!

You again, I applaud pilots who can fly planes! As I was saying to Mush, reading last nights thread I was constantly been mentioned by you. As I said I ain't interested son, I'm straight. And it's Since 1885 treacle!

Valerie you are a complete and utter **** who bores people constantly talking out of your back passage!!!

Look, Saintlysoul/BBB/sinc




e1885, what you need to do is go away and lie in a dark room for a while, select one of your signons to use and stop pretending to be three different people. It doesn't work and just makes you look a bit of a twit.

Valerie you've broken your word you said you'd never respond to one of my texts again!!!! 'A bit of a twit' ok have a look at my posts - you seem to spend a lot of time checking them- and see how many accurate posts I have actually posted. It's a shame you are the way you are.

You did say Luke Shaw was going out on loan - which given the defensive frailties of Fox and the fact Shaw has had a massive impact in our back four did seem daft.

I never said Shaw was going out on loan!

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

MGRA wrote:

St.Winch70 wrote:

MGRA wrote:
Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....

I won't slate your post for being negative, I see it for what it is absolute nonsense.
If you think that yesterday was in anyway a tactical success for Martinez and Wigan then you are truly deluded.

There was major unrest and dissatisfaction from their supporters about how they fail to keep the ball and are 'worked and harried' out of games.
They were gifted a point yesterday, people who have an ounce of footballing knowledge could see that...
I'm sure MP will take onboard your other points and put them into practice at Staplewood on Monday.
Unbelievable some of the 'Fans' that post on this site.

you are deluded. Wigan are staying up. Anyone who knows anything about football sees this.... they are interested in POINTS.... we were out-thought AGAIN.... saints hopefully will scrape survival but Wigan gave a masterclass about how to play football at this level.. its not about possession, pretty football and how rubbish we are at scoring. Its about how to win games.... I posted before the game that wigan would get 2 out of nothing and we would have to outscore them.... this is not rocket science, we can be congratutlated for being the best footballing side ever to be relegated,but it still means we go down....."fans" are those that know the game, martinez is a clever guy, and if you are too stpid to see it you know a lot less than you though, Wigan have mugged us twice this season.... simples....

MGRA...you are just looking to pick an arguement for no particular reason again.

Just as well part of the Wigan game plan was to let us take the lead during our period of dominance.

Master tactician that Martinez.

no argument. Just want to be realistic. Wigan were the better side on Saturday, they know how to cater for the oppostion and they will stay up , against the odds, again. I love watching attacking football as much as the next guy but we have not got the edge up front to convert it as this level. We need to mix flair with a bit of thinking and its clear we are not a team that can pace the game for 90 minutes. I am not sure what is so controversial here, its obvious stuff isn't it ?

Every now and again I agree with a post you make , the rest of the time ....................

..

Baddesley Bill wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:

Velleity wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:

since 1885 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

since 1885 wrote:

Mush On The Beach wrote:

Velleity wrote:
PS. Sorry if that all sounds a bit gay.

BBB – Big Bertie B0llocks Branfoot loves sucking up to the skunt WUMS on here, but I can categorically say you are both piiiisssssssing in the wind on this one.

Their next generation will be red and white and that will send a lot of the oldies skunts to an early grave, freeing up the national debt on pensions. Our continual success is a boost to the nations GDP.

God Bless Southampton :)

Checking in with another humdinger of a post. Mush Beach you keep mentioning me in your posts, I don't know how to let you down gently but I don't swing that way. To each is own and all that, but your barking up the wrong tree with me sweetheart! But I can't help thinking that we are hogging you Mushy. Your dearest and nearest must be pining for some of your attention. We mustn't be greedy now. Good to hear from you Mushy!

So, let's be crystal clear about this:

since1885 and Bring Back Branfoot are one and the same. It's always the same - multiple signons ALWAYS get caught out using the wrong log in to answer posts aimed at another signon name.

So that's since1885, Bring Back Branfoot and saintlysoul (his more gentle alter ego) all linked. All the same idiot.

Result!

You again, I applaud pilots who can fly planes! As I was saying to Mush, reading last nights thread I was constantly been mentioned by you. As I said I ain't interested son, I'm straight. And it's Since 1885 treacle!

Valerie you are a complete and utter **** who bores people constantly talking out of your back passage!!!

Look, Saintlysoul/BBB/sinc





e1885, what you need to do is go away and lie in a dark room for a while, select one of your signons to use and stop pretending to be three different people. It doesn't work and just makes you look a bit of a twit.

Valerie you've broken your word you said you'd never respond to one of my texts again!!!! 'A bit of a twit' ok have a look at my posts - you seem to spend a lot of time checking them- and see how many accurate posts I have actually posted. It's a shame you are the way you are.

You did say Luke Shaw was going out on loan - which given the defensive frailties of Fox and the fact Shaw has had a massive impact in our back four did seem daft.

I never said Shaw was going out on loan!

No, I don't think you did either...I think you said JWP was going out on loan.

Baddesley Bill wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:

Velleity wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:

since 1885 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

since 1885 wrote:

Mush On The Beach wrote:

Velleity wrote:
PS. Sorry if that all sounds a bit gay.

BBB – Big Bertie B0llocks Branfoot loves sucking up to the skunt WUMS on here, but I can categorically say you are both piiiisssssssing in the wind on this one.

Their next generation will be red and white and that will send a lot of the oldies skunts to an early grave, freeing up the national debt on pensions. Our continual success is a boost to the nations GDP.

God Bless Southampton :)

Checking in with another humdinger of a post. Mush Beach you keep mentioning me in your posts, I don't know how to let you down gently but I don't swing that way. To each is own and all that, but your barking up the wrong tree with me sweetheart! But I can't help thinking that we are hogging you Mushy. Your dearest and nearest must be pining for some of your attention. We mustn't be greedy now. Good to hear from you Mushy!

So, let's be crystal clear about this:

since1885 and Bring Back Branfoot are one and the same. It's always the same - multiple signons ALWAYS get caught out using the wrong log in to answer posts aimed at another signon name.

So that's since1885, Bring Back Branfoot and saintlysoul (his more gentle alter ego) all linked. All the same idiot.

Result!

You again, I applaud pilots who can fly planes! As I was saying to Mush, reading last nights thread I was constantly been mentioned by you. As I said I ain't interested son, I'm straight. And it's Since 1885 treacle!

Valerie you are a complete and utter **** who bores people constantly talking out of your back passage!!!

Look, Saintlysoul/BBB/sinc





e1885, what you need to do is go away and lie in a dark room for a while, select one of your signons to use and stop pretending to be three different people. It doesn't work and just makes you look a bit of a twit.

Valerie you've broken your word you said you'd never respond to one of my texts again!!!! 'A bit of a twit' ok have a look at my posts - you seem to spend a lot of time checking them- and see how many accurate posts I have actually posted. It's a shame you are the way you are.

You did say Luke Shaw was going out on loan - which given the defensive frailties of Fox and the fact Shaw has had a massive impact in our back four did seem daft.

I never said Shaw was going out on loan!

No, I don't think you did either...I think you said JWP was going out on loan.

saintshorse101 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

St.Winch70 wrote:

MGRA wrote: Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....

I won't slate your post for being negative, I see it for what it is absolute nonsense. If you think that yesterday was in anyway a tactical success for Martinez and Wigan then you are truly deluded. There was major unrest and dissatisfaction from their supporters about how they fail to keep the ball and are 'worked and harried' out of games. They were gifted a point yesterday, people who have an ounce of footballing knowledge could see that... I'm sure MP will take onboard your other points and put them into practice at Staplewood on Monday. Unbelievable some of the 'Fans' that post on this site.

you are deluded. Wigan are staying up. Anyone who knows anything about football sees this.... they are interested in POINTS.... we were out-thought AGAIN.... saints hopefully will scrape survival but Wigan gave a masterclass about how to play football at this level.. its not about possession, pretty football and how rubbish we are at scoring. Its about how to win games.... I posted before the game that wigan would get 2 out of nothing and we would have to outscore them.... this is not rocket science, we can be congratutlated for being the best footballing side ever to be relegated,but it still means we go down....."fans" are those that know the game, martinez is a clever guy, and if you are too stpid to see it you know a lot less than you though, Wigan have mugged us twice this season.... simples....

mgra, every now and again you seem to make a point that just looks right to you. we have gone over the gasto injury fiasco, on your part, enough to know this.
you now have a bee in your bonnet about wigan `outplaying` saints and rob martin being a master tactician. if you care to look at the game again you will see saints dominate the game, you will see what quick attractive football (not pretty) can do to the oppos. you seem to think that rob martin set his team up to allow us to attack at every opportunity whilst hoping to get a lucky goal or two. you seem to think that this style of football is better designed to get points, well wigan are below us in the league and are stuggling, they got lucky last year and if rob martin is the master tactician you seem to think he is do you not think he may have thought that this style of football (parking the bus) might not be the best? as others have said wigan had mosses last year, they havent got him this season. wigan may stay up because there are some very poor teams at the bottom this year but that does not mean that they play well or even out thought saints. if you think about the game before kick off then you would realise that a point is a good result for saints. a lot better than for wigan anyway.
this `pretty` football that you dont seem to like is far better way to play and will end up getting more positive results than the hoof ball that you are implying that saints should employ. i hate hoof ball with every fiber of my being and when branfoot was saints manager i didnt enjoy watching us. every team that employed this `style` of football ends up struggling as its easy to out play. west hoof only play this way and they didnt get auto promotion last season and have now been found out this season and will start to fall down the league, they may be the team that gets caught in the relegation dogfight, if not this then next. this is not a personal attack on you mgra but you cant honestly think wigan were a better team yesterday, if you do then you are in a minority of one. even rob martin said saints were the better team. i know you will still think that you are right despite many others pointing out you are not but thats you prerogative, all i will say that if everyone else including their manager and players thought that saints were better you really must accept that you might, just might, be wrong. i am not going to start name calling as i believe you have saints best interests at heart, i just wish you would take a step back from making your point and look at the bigger picture, but as i said your choice.

coyrs

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:

Velleity wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:

since 1885 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

since 1885 wrote:

Mush On The Beach wrote:

Velleity wrote:
PS. Sorry if that all sounds a bit gay.

BBB – Big Bertie B0llocks Branfoot loves sucking up to the skunt WUMS on here, but I can categorically say you are both piiiisssssssing in the wind on this one.

Their next generation will be red and white and that will send a lot of the oldies skunts to an early grave, freeing up the national debt on pensions. Our continual success is a boost to the nations GDP.

God Bless Southampton :)

Checking in with another humdinger of a post. Mush Beach you keep mentioning me in your posts, I don't know how to let you down gently but I don't swing that way. To each is own and all that, but your barking up the wrong tree with me sweetheart! But I can't help thinking that we are hogging you Mushy. Your dearest and nearest must be pining for some of your attention. We mustn't be greedy now. Good to hear from you Mushy!

So, let's be crystal clear about this:

since1885 and Bring Back Branfoot are one and the same. It's always the same - multiple signons ALWAYS get caught out using the wrong log in to answer posts aimed at another signon name.

So that's since1885, Bring Back Branfoot and saintlysoul (his more gentle alter ego) all linked. All the same idiot.

Result!

You again, I applaud pilots who can fly planes! As I was saying to Mush, reading last nights thread I was constantly been mentioned by you. As I said I ain't interested son, I'm straight. And it's Since 1885 treacle!

Valerie you are a complete and utter **** who bores people constantly talking out of your back passage!!!

Look, Saintlysoul/BBB/sinc






e1885, what you need to do is go away and lie in a dark room for a while, select one of your signons to use and stop pretending to be three different people. It doesn't work and just makes you look a bit of a twit.

Valerie you've broken your word you said you'd never respond to one of my texts again!!!! 'A bit of a twit' ok have a look at my posts - you seem to spend a lot of time checking them- and see how many accurate posts I have actually posted. It's a shame you are the way you are.

You did say Luke Shaw was going out on loan - which given the defensive frailties of Fox and the fact Shaw has had a massive impact in our back four did seem daft.

I never said Shaw was going out on loan!

No, I don't think you did either...I think you said JWP was going out on loan.

My bad.

MGRA wrote:

saintshorse101 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

St.Winch70 wrote:

MGRA wrote: Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....

I won't slate your post for being negative, I see it for what it is absolute nonsense. If you think that yesterday was in anyway a tactical success for Martinez and Wigan then you are truly deluded. There was major unrest and dissatisfaction from their supporters about how they fail to keep the ball and are 'worked and harried' out of games. They were gifted a point yesterday, people who have an ounce of footballing knowledge could see that... I'm sure MP will take onboard your other points and put them into practice at Staplewood on Monday. Unbelievable some of the 'Fans' that post on this site.

you are deluded. Wigan are staying up. Anyone who knows anything about football sees this.... they are interested in POINTS.... we were out-thought AGAIN.... saints hopefully will scrape survival but Wigan gave a masterclass about how to play football at this level.. its not about possession, pretty football and how rubbish we are at scoring. Its about how to win games.... I posted before the game that wigan would get 2 out of nothing and we would have to outscore them.... this is not rocket science, we can be congratutlated for being the best footballing side ever to be relegated,but it still means we go down....."fans" are those that know the game, martinez is a clever guy, and if you are too stpid to see it you know a lot less than you though, Wigan have mugged us twice this season.... simples....

mgra, every now and again you seem to make a point that just looks right to you. we have gone over the gasto injury fiasco, on your part, enough to know this.
you now have a bee in your bonnet about wigan `outplaying` saints and rob martin being a master tactician. if you care to look at the game again you will see saints dominate the game, you will see what quick attractive football (not pretty) can do to the oppos. you seem to think that rob martin set his team up to allow us to attack at every opportunity whilst hoping to get a lucky goal or two. you seem to think that this style of football is better designed to get points, well wigan are below us in the league and are stuggling, they got lucky last year and if rob martin is the master tactician you seem to think he is do you not think he may have thought that this style of football (parking the bus) might not be the best? as others have said wigan had mosses last year, they havent got him this season. wigan may stay up because there are some very poor teams at the bottom this year but that does not mean that they play well or even out thought saints. if you think about the game before kick off then you would realise that a point is a good result for saints. a lot better than for wigan anyway.
this `pretty` football that you dont seem to like is far better way to play and will end up getting more positive results than the hoof ball that you are implying that saints should employ. i hate hoof ball with every fiber of my being and when branfoot was saints manager i didnt enjoy watching us. every team that employed this `style` of football ends up struggling as its easy to out play. west hoof only play this way and they didnt get auto promotion last season and have now been found out this season and will start to fall down the league, they may be the team that gets caught in the relegation dogfight, if not this then next. this is not a personal attack on you mgra but you cant honestly think wigan were a better team yesterday, if you do then you are in a minority of one. even rob martin said saints were the better team. i know you will still think that you are right despite many others pointing out you are not but thats you prerogative, all i will say that if everyone else including their manager and players thought that saints were better you really must accept that you might, just might, be wrong. i am not going to start name calling as i believe you have saints best interests at heart, i just wish you would take a step back from making your point and look at the bigger picture, but as i said your choice.

coyrs

they are not a better team. But their manager is a better tactician. They will not go down. We did not "dominate" the game, the game is about winning and points, so we did not by definition. They have 4 out of 6 points against us. We have 1 out of 6. They will not go down, we hope not to. Not many will debate this with me because they know I am right on this..... and I would rather be wrong on this....

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:

Velleity wrote:

saintlysoul wrote:

since 1885 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

since 1885 wrote:

Mush On The Beach wrote:

Velleity wrote:
PS. Sorry if that all sounds a bit gay.

BBB – Big Bertie B0llocks Branfoot loves sucking up to the skunt WUMS on here, but I can categorically say you are both piiiisssssssing in the wind on this one.

Their next generation will be red and white and that will send a lot of the oldies skunts to an early grave, freeing up the national debt on pensions. Our continual success is a boost to the nations GDP.

God Bless Southampton :)

Checking in with another humdinger of a post. Mush Beach you keep mentioning me in your posts, I don't know how to let you down gently but I don't swing that way. To each is own and all that, but your barking up the wrong tree with me sweetheart! But I can't help thinking that we are hogging you Mushy. Your dearest and nearest must be pining for some of your attention. We mustn't be greedy now. Good to hear from you Mushy!

So, let's be crystal clear about this:

since1885 and Bring Back Branfoot are one and the same. It's always the same - multiple signons ALWAYS get caught out using the wrong log in to answer posts aimed at another signon name.

So that's since1885, Bring Back Branfoot and saintlysoul (his more gentle alter ego) all linked. All the same idiot.

Result!

You again, I applaud pilots who can fly planes! As I was saying to Mush, reading last nights thread I was constantly been mentioned by you. As I said I ain't interested son, I'm straight. And it's Since 1885 treacle!

Valerie you are a complete and utter **** who bores people constantly talking out of your back passage!!!

Look, Saintlysoul/BBB/sinc







e1885, what you need to do is go away and lie in a dark room for a while, select one of your signons to use and stop pretending to be three different people. It doesn't work and just makes you look a bit of a twit.

Valerie you've broken your word you said you'd never respond to one of my texts again!!!! 'A bit of a twit' ok have a look at my posts - you seem to spend a lot of time checking them- and see how many accurate posts I have actually posted. It's a shame you are the way you are.

You did say Luke Shaw was going out on loan - which given the defensive frailties of Fox and the fact Shaw has had a massive impact in our back four did seem daft.

I never said Shaw was going out on loan!

No, I don't think you did either...I think you said JWP was going out on loan.

My bad.

When did JWP go out on loan?....sure I saw him come on yesterday! ;O)