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Pochettino frustrated by Wigan draw

5:53pm Saturday 2nd February 2013

Pochettino frustrated by Wigan draw

Mauricio Pochettino admitted his frustration as Wigan scored a late equaliser to deny Saints a deserved victory at the DW Stadium.

Shaun Maloney’s late leveller meant the game ended 2-2 and ensured the wait for Pochettino’s first win as Saints boss extends another week.

“I am frustrated the same as the rest of the boys because the team played a great match,” he reflected.

“The effort that the team put into it they deserved the victory.

“We could have had two victories and one draw (since Pochettino took charge).

“Work is what we’ve got to do.

“We will work on things during the week and in the future we have to work on set pieces.”

Comments(318)

Comments(318)

WECOMING4U says...
5:56pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Poor defending can cost you in a second as was proven . Nice football can get you no-where in 90 mins? Just a thought?

skiptonsaint says...
5:57pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Could of etc in all three games but didnt

Are we going to be bery unlucky and go down ?

Would nige have done any better ?

Are we really any better than wigan and reading ?

AmsterdamSaint says...
6:06pm Sat 2 Feb 13

skiptonsaint wrote:
Could of etc in all three games but didnt

Are we going to be bery unlucky and go down ?

Would nige have done any better ?

Are we really any better than wigan and reading ?
Yes, Nige would have done better.

Saintsayer II says...
6:11pm Sat 2 Feb 13

AmsterdamSaint wrote:
skiptonsaint wrote:
Could of etc in all three games but didnt

Are we going to be bery unlucky and go down ?

Would nige have done any better ?

Are we really any better than wigan and reading ?
Yes, Nige would have done better.
IMO yes yes and yes

noodlesnewman says...
6:12pm Sat 2 Feb 13

skiptonsaint wrote:
Could of etc in all three games but didnt

Are we going to be bery unlucky and go down ?

Would nige have done any better ?

Are we really any better than wigan and reading ?
same old same old story ,fed up with this we was unlucky , this aint gonna keep us up we had to win today . didnt strengthen when we had chance ! gonna be edgy end to season , lets hope jose and forren can make a difference feel so sorry for our attackers cos our defence just keeps on leaking !xxxxing sort it we ve had long enough now no more excusses . good rant gets it off ya chest ...

Taoboy says...
6:14pm Sat 2 Feb 13

You'll never know what might have been, so crying over spilt milk won't change anything.
Quality performance by the wholesquad. So pleased spiderman finally got on the scorsheet, with this work ethic the opposition know what they are facing. Man city next.
Are they any good?
Come on you Saints.

RedArmy1 says...
6:18pm Sat 2 Feb 13

TOTAL RESPECT to our magnificent AWAY FANS !!!

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON.

COYR.

Saintsayer II says...
6:19pm Sat 2 Feb 13

One half against Everton, one half against Utd and one half against Wigan is this a plan or is it because the players are unable to sustain the high energy levels needed with MoPo' s pass and press tactics

I watched on line and it is certainly entertaining but Forren or Fonte are needed sooner rather than later

Was Clyne injured or was it tactical?Clyne would probably been better positioned to stop their equaliser

Stroppy_gramps says...
6:19pm Sat 2 Feb 13

I thought they played a blinder and really took the game to Wigan.

clearly there needs to be more clinical finishing when we get the ball into the box and we need to be much more agressive defending corners and set pieces.

Fatty x Ford Worker says...
6:21pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Dirty smelly hole up North Birds dont wash as well for the **** Men just a bunch of Saddos go back to your Terrace!

skiptonsaint says...
6:27pm Sat 2 Feb 13

I agree we looked good today for a large chunk of the match same as everton and man u games

Maybe adam should of been on at half time btw

Can we play this pressing game for the whole 90 though

We are having a frustrating season

But the fact remains that a few unlucky results and we could be in real trouble

Equally we could go on a run starting with beating city and finish mid table

I do feel for the first time in many a year that we could seriously beat anyone now on our day

Was great to see both goals go in down out end as well

Coyr

saint Compo says...
6:28pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Defensive lapses again. How long before Forren makes his debut and Fonte returns?

This 'pressing' game is all very well but it leaves a lot of room at the back and exposes the defence a lot. OK if you've got a strong and pacey back line but otherwise ....

Still, a point's a point but all 3 were nearly ours. Our league position and chances of survival would have looked a lot better.

COYR

mack chinnon says...
6:28pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Come on Scunny,

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
6:29pm Sat 2 Feb 13

In a pub with the Wigan who reckon we are the best side to visit this season!

COYR

LLLLLLLDDDLLLLLLL(L)

Velleity says...
6:31pm Sat 2 Feb 13

mack chinnon wrote:
Come on Scunny,
Well, at least they are symmetrical now at seven Ls, three Ds and seven more Ls. The asymmetry was bothering me.

RedArmy1 says...
6:33pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Stroppy_gramps wrote:
I thought they played a blinder and really took the game to Wigan.

clearly there needs to be more clinical finishing when we get the ball into the box and we need to be much more agressive defending corners and set pieces.
Fans are calling for Fonte and introducing Forren to tighten up the Defence and so we come way with the points from games.

Defending is about reaction times and winning the ball - when the crowd scream HIT HIM - that is what is needed. WIN THE BALL. No sitting off the ball or waiting. GET STUCK IN AND CLEAR THE BALL.

In the Air - WIN THE BALL.

GOOD BATTLING BY THE LADS - Next up the WIN.

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR

saint Compo says...
6:38pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Can somebody tell me why Ramirez can't play more than half a game? Is he not fit enough for longer or is he just so ineffective that he has to be replaced? He wasn't in the game in the first half v Man Utd. How was he today?

COYR

SaintMark says...
6:40pm Sat 2 Feb 13

saint Compo wrote:
Defensive lapses again. How long before Forren makes his debut and Fonte returns?

This 'pressing' game is all very well but it leaves a lot of room at the back and exposes the defence a lot. OK if you've got a strong and pacey back line but otherwise ....

Still, a point's a point but all 3 were nearly ours. Our league position and chances of survival would have looked a lot better.

COYR
They scored from corners, not sure what the pressing game had to do with it? Thought we played the pressing game well! Just need to defend dead ball situations better. Oh and execute them better.

saintlysoul says...
6:42pm Sat 2 Feb 13

skiptonsaint wrote:
I agree we looked good today for a large chunk of the match same as everton and man u games

Maybe adam should of been on at half time btw

Can we play this pressing game for the whole 90 though

We are having a frustrating season

But the fact remains that a few unlucky results and we could be in real trouble

Equally we could go on a run starting with beating city and finish mid table

I do feel for the first time in many a year that we could seriously beat anyone now on our day

Was great to see both goals go in down out end as well

Coyr
It's very encouraging that not only can we play good passing football but we can score as well! It seems like the midfield did well today and Davis, Lalana and JWP did well when they got in! When you consider this perhaps it's not surprising that NC and MP didn't see the need to invest in more midfielders!

The defence seems to have had problems today. No doubt that is something they'll have to work on in training this week.

I'm very optimistic about the rest if the season now. I think MP will go from strength I strength and that Saints will definitely stay up!!!!!

Taoboy says...
6:44pm Sat 2 Feb 13

RedArmy1 wrote:
TOTAL RESPECT to our magnificent AWAY FANS !!!

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON.

COYR.
Top Drawer.

Confucious says...
6:46pm Sat 2 Feb 13

It's always a big downer to concede points right at the end and it takes a day or two to get things back in perspective.

But this was even more a 'must not lose' game than it was a 'must win' one. Also showed how far we've come since we played Wigan at home and barely got a look in.

And it's another notched up for Rickie.

By Monday we'll all be looking ahead again and and relishing the prospect of City at St Marys. That's what we do.

Well done and thanks to all the away fans today.

skiptonsaint says...
6:53pm Sat 2 Feb 13

My other concern sat on the train after watching today is And this might not be agreed with

We have possibly wasted money on

Gaston
Mayuka
Jrod (although maybe not. He might get 10 this season and does try)
Gazza ?
Lee slighlty before ?

We bought well with
Clyne

And have had what looks like sone luck with free players
Shaw
Borouc

And jury is out on
Davis
Yoshida
But poss good buys.

We need forren to be a hit
and people like jwp to come through

And punchoen looks less interested last few games. Contract issues ?

If the teams below us buy well
Ie newcastles last 2 results

We could have probs

Not sure we can afford to be this hit and miss in the transfer market

Just a thought

skiptonsaint says...
6:56pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Confucious wrote:
It's always a big downer to concede points right at the end and it takes a day or two to get things back in perspective.

But this was even more a 'must not lose' game than it was a 'must win' one. Also showed how far we've come since we played Wigan at home and barely got a look in.

And it's another notched up for Rickie.

By Monday we'll all be looking ahead again and and relishing the prospect of City at St Marys. That's what we do.

Well done and thanks to all the away fans today.
Good points here

I suspect monday this result will look better than it does now

saintlysoul says...
6:58pm Sat 2 Feb 13

skiptonsaint wrote:
My other concern sat on the train after watching today is And this might not be agreed with

We have possibly wasted money on

Gaston
Mayuka
Jrod (although maybe not. He might get 10 this season and does try)
Gazza ?
Lee slighlty before ?

We bought well with
Clyne

And have had what looks like sone luck with free players
Shaw
Borouc

And jury is out on
Davis
Yoshida
But poss good buys.

We need forren to be a hit
and people like jwp to come through

And punchoen looks less interested last few games. Contract issues ?

If the teams below us buy well
Ie newcastles last 2 results

We could have probs

Not sure we can afford to be this hit and miss in the transfer market

Just a thought
Some very good points here!

AmsterdamSaint says...
7:16pm Sat 2 Feb 13

saintlysoul wrote:
skiptonsaint wrote:
My other concern sat on the train after watching today is And this might not be agreed with

We have possibly wasted money on

Gaston
Mayuka
Jrod (although maybe not. He might get 10 this season and does try)
Gazza ?
Lee slighlty before ?

We bought well with
Clyne

And have had what looks like sone luck with free players
Shaw
Borouc

And jury is out on
Davis
Yoshida
But poss good buys.

We need forren to be a hit
and people like jwp to come through

And punchoen looks less interested last few games. Contract issues ?

If the teams below us buy well
Ie newcastles last 2 results

We could have probs

Not sure we can afford to be this hit and miss in the transfer market

Just a thought
Some very good points here!
I think Davis is a pretty good buy. And Yoshida too.

Ross123 says...
7:21pm Sat 2 Feb 13

good points today, everyone put in a shift.

lambert, rodriquez, shaw, davies, schneiderlin, cork and clyne all were amazing.

puncheon and gaston look poor over last few games.

we arent talking about goalkeeper issues much lately which means boruc must be doing something right!

we need a win badly though to keep in contact before the rest of the league drift away.

i got a funny feeling we will get something with man city next week.

as long as we tighten the defense this week in training!

we are playing much better football and should of won a lot more games this season!

onwards and upwards!

magnette says...
7:28pm Sat 2 Feb 13

What would the scores have been if Saints put someone on both posts for set pieces during the last two matches?

Red n White says...
7:31pm Sat 2 Feb 13

AmsterdamSaint wrote:
skiptonsaint wrote:
Could of etc in all three games but didnt

Are we going to be bery unlucky and go down ?

Would nige have done any better ?

Are we really any better than wigan and reading ?
Yes, Nige would have done better.
Compare our last three results against the three reverse fixtures under Adkins and we've actually gained two more points under MP, despite having to play two of them away as well.

Mr. Miyagi says...
7:36pm Sat 2 Feb 13

AmsterdamSaint wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
skiptonsaint wrote:
My other concern sat on the train after watching today is And this might not be agreed with

We have possibly wasted money on

Gaston
Mayuka
Jrod (although maybe not. He might get 10 this season and does try)
Gazza ?
Lee slighlty before ?

We bought well with
Clyne

And have had what looks like sone luck with free players
Shaw
Borouc

And jury is out on
Davis
Yoshida
But poss good buys.

We need forren to be a hit
and people like jwp to come through

And punchoen looks less interested last few games. Contract issues ?

If the teams below us buy well
Ie newcastles last 2 results

We could have probs

Not sure we can afford to be this hit and miss in the transfer market

Just a thought
Some very good points here!
I think Davis is a pretty good buy. And Yoshida too.
I may get slated but, I think Yoshida is the weak link in our defence. He scares the sh1t out of me everytime he goes near the ball. His marking at set pieces seems off as well. When his man makes a run, he loses them too easily. Like others have said, going forward we are top class and match for anyone, but still defend with a lot of niavety. Worried about teams around us strengthening, where we are going we what we have, apart from Forren.

spirit of 66 says...
7:37pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Disappointing not to win, but one point is just OK. Thirteen games left - a point a game would see us just scrape home. With seven home games, three of these as home wins/nine points would leave us having to get five or six points elsewhere. On recent performances this looks quite likely to see us stay up.

tomw1234 says...
7:52pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Maya Yoshida was awful today. I thought Jos had a decent game but Maya was truly terrible! He was at fault for the first goal with terrible marking and was completely out of his depth all game. Shame because we played so well in midfield. I thought Jay-Rod was excellent as was Rickie who has shown he has plenty of quality. Shame about the result but we are playing the best football I've seen us play in a long time! Bring on City! COYR!

Red n White says...
7:52pm Sat 2 Feb 13

saintlysoul wrote:
skiptonsaint wrote:
My other concern sat on the train after watching today is And this might not be agreed with

We have possibly wasted money on

Gaston
Mayuka
Jrod (although maybe not. He might get 10 this season and does try)
Gazza ?
Lee slighlty before ?

We bought well with
Clyne

And have had what looks like sone luck with free players
Shaw
Borouc

And jury is out on
Davis
Yoshida
But poss good buys.

We need forren to be a hit
and people like jwp to come through

And punchoen looks less interested last few games. Contract issues ?

If the teams below us buy well
Ie newcastles last 2 results

We could have probs

Not sure we can afford to be this hit and miss in the transfer market

Just a thought
Some very good points here!
I don't think you can say we've wasted money as most of these players are still young. Gazzanigga was one for the future, I'm not sure he was meant to come in so early, but I thought, other than the 1 or 2 mistakes he did alright.
I'm disappointed we've not seen much of Mayuka, not necesarily starting,but off the bench more, same with Lee.

tomw1234 says...
7:54pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Mr. Miyagi wrote:
AmsterdamSaint wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
skiptonsaint wrote:
My other concern sat on the train after watching today is And this might not be agreed with

We have possibly wasted money on

Gaston
Mayuka
Jrod (although maybe not. He might get 10 this season and does try)
Gazza ?
Lee slighlty before ?

We bought well with
Clyne

And have had what looks like sone luck with free players
Shaw
Borouc

And jury is out on
Davis
Yoshida
But poss good buys.

We need forren to be a hit
and people like jwp to come through

And punchoen looks less interested last few games. Contract issues ?

If the teams below us buy well
Ie newcastles last 2 results

We could have probs

Not sure we can afford to be this hit and miss in the transfer market

Just a thought
Some very good points here!
I think Davis is a pretty good buy. And Yoshida too.
I may get slated but, I think Yoshida is the weak link in our defence. He scares the sh1t out of me everytime he goes near the ball. His marking at set pieces seems off as well. When his man makes a run, he loses them too easily. Like others have said, going forward we are top class and match for anyone, but still defend with a lot of niavety. Worried about teams around us strengthening, where we are going we what we have, apart from Forren.
Completely agree about Maya. He had a bad game today. He lacks aggression and strength.

pompey in spain says...
7:54pm Sat 2 Feb 13

i said you lot would end up 16th, but now ???? you had to win this!! not enough passion from your fans!!!

sledgerite says...
7:56pm Sat 2 Feb 13

in my oppinion we look a far more effective team now we are more pro active in our team set up,before the last 3 games i worried whether we could stay up,i dont worry now.

skiptonsaint says...
8:04pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Ok wasted might be a harsh way of putting it with some of the players i listed

But we had a certain amount of money to spend and making sure we stay in this league

12 gaston
7 jorod one for the future
2.5 gazza one for the future

Luckily we have players such as srl, cork , morgan, who are playing at a value way more than we paid so it is working and we should be ok

But we cant afford anymore players for the future imo

And we also have been ok with injuries as a whole ie a bit lucky

But unlucky in alot if games

So odd season

mike saint says...
8:20pm Sat 2 Feb 13

WECOMING4U wrote:
Poor defending can cost you in a second as was proven . Nice football can get you no-where in 90 mins? Just a thought?
Well said.
Why when we,ve got 2 second rate centre halfs didwe not buy any in January transfer window.
All season the defence has cost us points. I think it was a big mistake not to buy any and could lead to us being relagated.

Bring back Branfoot says...
8:20pm Sat 2 Feb 13

skiptonsaint wrote:
My other concern sat on the train after watching today is And this might not be agreed with

We have possibly wasted money on

Gaston
Mayuka
Jrod (although maybe not. He might get 10 this season and does try)
Gazza ?
Lee slighlty before ?

We bought well with
Clyne

And have had what looks like sone luck with free players
Shaw
Borouc

And jury is out on
Davis
Yoshida
But poss good buys.

We need forren to be a hit
and people like jwp to come through

And punchoen looks less interested last few games. Contract issues ?

If the teams below us buy well
Ie newcastles last 2 results

We could have probs

Not sure we can afford to be this hit and miss in the transfer market

Just a thought
Excellent post! I believe NA's performance in the transfer market was poor. Clyne though, was a great buy. Personally I expected more from Davis, Yoshi had a good patch, not setting the world on fire but a decent squad player.

SaintMark says...
8:21pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Never thought I would say this but Davis is looking more up for it than Gaston, he's not looking like a team player. Punch seems to be going same way.. Rest of the team are looking well up for it though!!

bring on city!!

Bring back Branfoot says...
8:28pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Red n White wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
skiptonsaint wrote:
My other concern sat on the train after watching today is And this might not be agreed with

We have possibly wasted money on

Gaston
Mayuka
Jrod (although maybe not. He might get 10 this season and does try)
Gazza ?
Lee slighlty before ?

We bought well with
Clyne

And have had what looks like sone luck with free players
Shaw
Borouc

And jury is out on
Davis
Yoshida
But poss good buys.

We need forren to be a hit
and people like jwp to come through

And punchoen looks less interested last few games. Contract issues ?

If the teams below us buy well
Ie newcastles last 2 results

We could have probs

Not sure we can afford to be this hit and miss in the transfer market

Just a thought
Some very good points here!
I don't think you can say we've wasted money as most of these players are still young. Gazzanigga was one for the future, I'm not sure he was meant to come in so early, but I thought, other than the 1 or 2 mistakes he did alright.
I'm disappointed we've not seen much of Mayuka, not necesarily starting,but off the bench more, same with Lee.
If Mayuka was 7 mill+ he would be the biggest waste of money. Poch has to make do with NA's poor transfer dealings. The truth is we don't have much to show for the amount he spent. As I've said for months, most of his signings couldn't hold down a starting place.

Time will show that he overpaid for some players when we sell them on for less. I just hope that in the summer Poch gets a war chest to strengthen the squad. Or will the family be reluctant to bankroll to the extent they have done due to a lot of NA's buys having not lived up to expectations.

Invidia says...
8:31pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Ramirez picked up an injury and was replaced not sure why Clyne was replaced (hope he didn't take a knock) although it had the right effect it looks like MoPo has the tactical nous to do the right thing and more importantly when to make the changes again the same as the Manu game our marking let us down.

tomw1234 says...
8:33pm Sat 2 Feb 13

skiptonsaint wrote:
Ok wasted might be a harsh way of putting it with some of the players i listed

But we had a certain amount of money to spend and making sure we stay in this league

12 gaston
7 jorod one for the future
2.5 gazza one for the future

Luckily we have players such as srl, cork , morgan, who are playing at a value way more than we paid so it is working and we should be ok

But we cant afford anymore players for the future imo

And we also have been ok with injuries as a whole ie a bit lucky

But unlucky in alot if games

So odd season
You forget that Gaston is still very young and is still not used to the BPL. We see it a lot with foreign players.

mike saint says...
8:41pm Sat 2 Feb 13

SaintMark wrote:
Never thought I would say this but Davis is looking more up for it than Gaston, he's not looking like a team player. Punch seems to be going same way.. Rest of the team are looking well up for it though!!

bring on city!!
You say bring on city .
Why, we are not going to get any points out of them if we cant beat Wigan. could be in the bottom 3 this time next week.

J7junctionseven says...
8:47pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Is anyone just a little bit happy that Adam Lallana is on his way back to full fitness and could be just the man to get Saints a couple of wins in the next few games.....or is it all doom, gloom and relegation talk on here tonight?
FFS COYR FOADP

St Retford says...
8:52pm Sat 2 Feb 13

All that really needs saying is that we were genuinely magnificent in that second half. We pressed high up the pitch, they rarely got out of their half and it was wave after glorious wave of Southampton pressure.

Why not start with that game plan? If it means starting with Davis then so be it. The final result was deeply unfair but that was the best I've seen us play.

We'll smash City.

St Retford says...
8:58pm Sat 2 Feb 13

O, it should also be pointed out that the pies are a bit overrated.

: ((((((((((

J7junctionseven says...
8:59pm Sat 2 Feb 13

St Retford wrote:
All that really needs saying is that we were genuinely magnificent in that second half. We pressed high up the pitch, they rarely got out of their half and it was wave after glorious wave of Southampton pressure.

Why not start with that game plan? If it means starting with Davis then so be it. The final result was deeply unfair but that was the best I've seen us play.

We'll smash City.
Apparently not, we can't beat Wigan so we have no chance.......Take a look at some of the posts above....we're doomed now we've only picked up a point away and have no chance of staying up now. ffs
COYR FOADP

promised land says...
9:07pm Sat 2 Feb 13

pompey in spain wrote:
i said you lot would end up 16th, but now ???? you had to win this!! not enough passion from your fans!!!
LLLLLLLDDDLLLLLLL

mesaint says...
9:08pm Sat 2 Feb 13

AmsterdamSaint wrote:
skiptonsaint wrote:
Could of etc in all three games but didnt

Are we going to be bery unlucky and go down ?

Would nige have done any better ?

Are we really any better than wigan and reading ?
Yes, Nige would have done better.
i could understand if we got rid of this manager and got our nige but after seeing todays game,,5 year plan to league 1..cant controll the uncontrolables..but can contoll what is in our controll.defenders.l
ack of,,the futures.not so bright we r in a dog fight sh,te...

Tirau Dan says...
9:08pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Is this the right thread for the Saints game I watched at 4am this morning in NZ?

Bit disjointed.. couple of mistakes. Gaston not used to or really up for physical games he must shape up or get left out .. he is doing his international chances irreparable damage. imo.

But vast improvement with the whole team pressing forward and having cracks at goal.. as Morgan said.. it won't be long and we'll be winning by 3 or 4.

Mopo said they will work on Set plays.. that is good enough for me,.. Wigan practise those and are very good at set plays.. so give them fair dues.... we out played them in every facet.

Not a day for blame games.

How Andre Mariner stays at the top of reffdom beats me... but I wouldn;t want to be a SAF and do a moan or have a word in his ear.

St Retford says...
9:10pm Sat 2 Feb 13

J7junctionseven wrote:
St Retford wrote:
All that really needs saying is that we were genuinely magnificent in that second half. We pressed high up the pitch, they rarely got out of their half and it was wave after glorious wave of Southampton pressure.

Why not start with that game plan? If it means starting with Davis then so be it. The final result was deeply unfair but that was the best I've seen us play.

We'll smash City.
Apparently not, we can't beat Wigan so we have no chance.......Take a look at some of the posts above....we're doomed now we've only picked up a point away and have no chance of staying up now. ffs
COYR FOADP
Innit. If anyone can come away from the DW today and not think something bloody magnificent is happening under MP then they're mental. What we need in the summer is some wiry, quick and clinical centre forward to play alongside Rickie and start converting more of the chances we have, but even without that we're going to blossom into an absolute beast of a unit.

We've played like the home team against not just Wigan but also Manchester fcuking United. Imagine how we'll be when we're actually at home.

saintmac says...
9:10pm Sat 2 Feb 13

The team are playing with more confidence under MP but must make
more of the chances thy are creating
and improve defensively.Hopefull
y
Forren will soon be match fit though
Fonte I think will be out for awhile.A
shame training will be disrupted this
week with international duties.

saintlysoul says...
9:11pm Sat 2 Feb 13

SaintMark wrote:
Never thought I would say this but Davis is looking more up for it than Gaston, he's not looking like a team player. Punch seems to be going same way.. Rest of the team are looking well up for it though!!

bring on city!!
Next game start with Davis and JWP with Ramirez and Puncheon on the bench?

tomw1234 says...
9:23pm Sat 2 Feb 13

J7junctionseven wrote:
St Retford wrote:
All that really needs saying is that we were genuinely magnificent in that second half. We pressed high up the pitch, they rarely got out of their half and it was wave after glorious wave of Southampton pressure.

Why not start with that game plan? If it means starting with Davis then so be it. The final result was deeply unfair but that was the best I've seen us play.

We'll smash City.
Apparently not, we can't beat Wigan so we have no chance.......Take a look at some of the posts above....we're doomed now we've only picked up a point away and have no chance of staying up now. ffs
COYR FOADP
For gods sake. How depressing. I'd really hate to be you if everything is all doom and gloom. We went to Wigan and bossed it, same at Utd. We'll pick up points. At least we're not QPR!!

mikeyg2108 says...
9:24pm Sat 2 Feb 13

SaintMark wrote:
saint Compo wrote:
Defensive lapses again. How long before Forren makes his debut and Fonte returns?

This 'pressing' game is all very well but it leaves a lot of room at the back and exposes the defence a lot. OK if you've got a strong and pacey back line but otherwise ....

Still, a point's a point but all 3 were nearly ours. Our league position and chances of survival would have looked a lot better.

COYR
They scored from corners, not sure what the pressing game had to do with it? Thought we played the pressing game well! Just need to defend dead ball situations better. Oh and execute them better.
Agreed. Defending at set pieces has got to be better. Yoshida lost his man completely today and Jos did the same at Man U. Basic errors that have got to be eliminated. It can't all be down to bad luck!

J7junctionseven says...
9:27pm Sat 2 Feb 13

tomw1234 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
St Retford wrote:
All that really needs saying is that we were genuinely magnificent in that second half. We pressed high up the pitch, they rarely got out of their half and it was wave after glorious wave of Southampton pressure.

Why not start with that game plan? If it means starting with Davis then so be it. The final result was deeply unfair but that was the best I've seen us play.

We'll smash City.
Apparently not, we can't beat Wigan so we have no chance.......Take a look at some of the posts above....we're doomed now we've only picked up a point away and have no chance of staying up now. ffs
COYR FOADP
For gods sake. How depressing. I'd really hate to be you if everything is all doom and gloom. We went to Wigan and bossed it, same at Utd. We'll pick up points. At least we're not QPR!!
I was being sarcastic about the oher posts of doom and gloom on here...keep up eh!

skiptonsaint says...
9:28pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Ok maybe conceeding a lead making me think the glass is half empty

Was very pleased with alot i saw today

Coyr

rocketone says...
9:31pm Sat 2 Feb 13

I think some of these miserable b4st4rds were watching a different game!
We were unlucky.
We should have scored several times and didn't.
Nobody said buy a striker, so we were all wrong!
The team we have is fighting on our behalf and I am proud of the performance today.
Doomngloomerchants..
......go boil your heads!

J7junctionseven says...
9:34pm Sat 2 Feb 13

rocketone wrote:
I think some of these miserable b4st4rds were watching a different game!
We were unlucky.
We should have scored several times and didn't.
Nobody said buy a striker, so we were all wrong!
The team we have is fighting on our behalf and I am proud of the performance today.
Doomngloomerchants..

......go boil your heads!
Amen to that!

MGRA says...
9:47pm Sat 2 Feb 13

rocketone wrote:
I think some of these miserable b4st4rds were watching a different game!
We were unlucky.
We should have scored several times and didn't.
Nobody said buy a striker, so we were all wrong!
The team we have is fighting on our behalf and I am proud of the performance today.
Doomngloomerchants..

......go boil your heads!
we were not unlucky.Goals from Midfield are not easy for us. Luck evens out over the season. We have not got the quality in some areas to nail games down when we are on top. With out midifeld and defence, we could well be the best footballing side ever to get relegated from the Prem.... if you know what I mean.... Ramirez better start earning his money tho, £12M buys 2 or 3 very good Prem players.... so he had better discover his mojo bdq.

St Retford says...
9:50pm Sat 2 Feb 13

rocketone wrote:
I think some of these miserable b4st4rds were watching a different game!
We were unlucky.
We should have scored several times and didn't.
Nobody said buy a striker, so we were all wrong!
The team we have is fighting on our behalf and I am proud of the performance today.
Doomngloomerchants..

......go boil your heads!
Word.

They're a bunch of young lads who have been away from their children/wives/girlf
riends/families for almost two weeks and they've worked their tits off. They deserve at least an extra three points for their efforts and I bet they're more gutted than any of us. I hope they all get the chance to spend a nice Sunday without thinking about football and recharge their batteries. But more than anything we need to make them feel like we appreciate their hard work when they next step out at St Mary's. Let's raise the roof.

saint Compo says...
9:50pm Sat 2 Feb 13

I always find it interesting read the opposition's viewpoint on the game. See:

http://lets-hang-on.
com/2013/02/02/malon
ey-salvages-a-point-
for-the-latics-again
st-the-impressive-sa
ints/

We did OK!

COYR

rocketone says...
9:54pm Sat 2 Feb 13

I'm still waiting for the poster who got it right!
Bound to be someone.
Make him the next manager, or lend him to Pompey to sort them out. They are an embarrassment to the whole south coast.

SaintMax says...
9:56pm Sat 2 Feb 13

All of the moaners before the Everton game would have taken the results we've got, and the way we are playing.
They just need to be more positive and believe.
Would they prefer NAs play great for the first half then backs against the wall for the second 45?
Or MPs relentless pressure til the final whistle?
I know what my blood pressure prefers, and can't believe how much a +ve effect Mau has had already on the way we play and how he can influence our play with substitutions.

Red n White says...
9:57pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Thought Cork was man of the match today, was brilliant. I was very surprised of his calmness on the ball and also some of the skills he showed which I'd never associated with him.
Apparently, for the 2nd goal we scored, it took us 16 seconds from winning the ball near our own box, to put it into the Wigan net.

St Retford says...
10:09pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Red n White wrote:
Thought Cork was man of the match today, was brilliant. I was very surprised of his calmness on the ball and also some of the skills he showed which I'd never associated with him.
Apparently, for the 2nd goal we scored, it took us 16 seconds from winning the ball near our own box, to put it into the Wigan net.
Cork and Spidey are the heart of the team. Everything stems from them. They were awesome today.

saintshorse101 says...
10:21pm Sat 2 Feb 13

i think with the new style of football will suite j-rod more and he will become a better and better player. his confidence is building now and it shows in his gameplay. gaston has been a bit of a let down in the last couple of games but i will forgive him that in the hope that he ups his game.
we won a good point today and as others have said, win your home gomes and draw the away games and we should be fine. we will stay up and we will be one of the teams to look out for next season.

just kidding says...
10:32pm Sat 2 Feb 13

I am proud of my team today, not a slacker amongst them. Maybe a couple were off color but great work effort all round. Man there are some real negative tw@ts that get on here sometime. The amount of money we have spent on players already will keep us up, ffs, and you have to include in that amount the bargain of the century IMO Ricky Lambert. What a player that guy is! And I totally agree with St Redford "If anyone can come away from the DW today and not think something bloody magnificent is happening under MP then ther'e mental" (although I would have squeezed the F word in before mental)

arthur boutfaith says...
10:35pm Sat 2 Feb 13

tomw1234 wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
St Retford wrote:
All that really needs saying is that we were genuinely magnificent in that second half. We pressed high up the pitch, they rarely got out of their half and it was wave after glorious wave of Southampton pressure.

Why not start with that game plan? If it means starting with Davis then so be it. The final result was deeply unfair but that was the best I've seen us play.

We'll smash City.
Apparently not, we can't beat Wigan so we have no chance.......Take a look at some of the posts above....we're doomed now we've only picked up a point away and have no chance of staying up now. ffs
COYR FOADP
For gods sake. How depressing. I'd really hate to be you if everything is all doom and gloom. We went to Wigan and bossed it, same at Utd. We'll pick up points. At least we're not QPR!!
Or Pompey !!

FFS cheer up everyone !

The future's bright !!

Red & White.

F Fan says...
10:38pm Sat 2 Feb 13

saint Compo wrote:
I always find it interesting read the opposition's viewpoint on the game. See:

http://lets-hang-on.

com/2013/02/02/malon

ey-salvages-a-point-

for-the-latics-again

st-the-impressive-sa

ints/

We did OK!

COYR
Yep - this reporter watched the same game as me. Don't know what some of the saddos on this thread were watching.

F Fan says...
10:40pm Sat 2 Feb 13

mesaint wrote:
AmsterdamSaint wrote:
skiptonsaint wrote:
Could of etc in all three games but didnt

Are we going to be bery unlucky and go down ?

Would nige have done any better ?

Are we really any better than wigan and reading ?
Yes, Nige would have done better.
i could understand if we got rid of this manager and got our nige but after seeing todays game,,5 year plan to league 1..cant controll the uncontrolables..but can contoll what is in our controll.defenders.l

ack of,,the futures.not so bright we r in a dog fight sh,te...
Pompey or WUM?

F Fan says...
10:42pm Sat 2 Feb 13

mike saint wrote:
WECOMING4U wrote:
Poor defending can cost you in a second as was proven . Nice football can get you no-where in 90 mins? Just a thought?
Well said.
Why when we,ve got 2 second rate centre halfs didwe not buy any in January transfer window.
All season the defence has cost us points. I think it was a big mistake not to buy any and could lead to us being relagated.
Ah - Mike and Me Saint - must be Pompey - a WUM would know who we bought in the window.

St Retford says...
10:49pm Sat 2 Feb 13

just kidding wrote:
I am proud of my team today, not a slacker amongst them. Maybe a couple were off color but great work effort all round. Man there are some real negative tw@ts that get on here sometime. The amount of money we have spent on players already will keep us up, ffs, and you have to include in that amount the bargain of the century IMO Ricky Lambert. What a player that guy is! And I totally agree with St Redford "If anyone can come away from the DW today and not think something bloody magnificent is happening under MP then ther'e mental" (although I would have squeezed the F word in before mental)
There are two types of poster on the board tonight, dude: those who watched the game and those who didn't.

If you're hoping to form an opinion based on the Match Of The Day highlights then you'll miss the point.

St Retford says...
10:51pm Sat 2 Feb 13

F Fan wrote:
mike saint wrote:
WECOMING4U wrote:
Poor defending can cost you in a second as was proven . Nice football can get you no-where in 90 mins? Just a thought?
Well said.
Why when we,ve got 2 second rate centre halfs didwe not buy any in January transfer window.
All season the defence has cost us points. I think it was a big mistake not to buy any and could lead to us being relagated.
Ah - Mike and Me Saint - must be Pompey - a WUM would know who we bought in the window.
Spotter's badge, sir. We must be ever vigilant.

Ted Rogers says...
10:52pm Sat 2 Feb 13

St Retford wrote:
Red n White wrote:
Thought Cork was man of the match today, was brilliant. I was very surprised of his calmness on the ball and also some of the skills he showed which I'd never associated with him.
Apparently, for the 2nd goal we scored, it took us 16 seconds from winning the ball near our own box, to put it into the Wigan net.
Cork and Spidey are the heart of the team. Everything stems from them. They were awesome today.
Spider is probably the best holding midfielder player in the division on current form - he was awesome today and showed great discipline and maturity after his early yellow.
Thought Clyne looked out of sorts today and my Nan can distribute the ball better than Yoshi and Hooiveld.

As for the JRod knickers, he is the only guy capable of producing that kind of pace down the line to provide the assist for the second.
Shout for Boruc for the excellent save in the first half.
Great day, disappointed with a draw though when Wigan had three attempts and scored two!
I fancy us against City!!

grezzer says...
10:57pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Please stop slating jay-rod, he's been stuck out on the wing when he's started, gives everything, showing an eye for goal and some of his touches and turns today were brilliant, let alone that run today and composed assist to finish it!

And anyone who thinks Davis was a flop clearly wasn't at St Mary's for the Arsenal game and hasn't clocked that the last 2 second half's he's come on and we've dominated. Every player has a unique job, some aren't designed to stand out but doesn't mean they don't put in a good shift.

SaintMark says...
11:04pm Sat 2 Feb 13

mike saint wrote:
SaintMark wrote:
Never thought I would say this but Davis is looking more up for it than Gaston, he's not looking like a team player. Punch seems to be going same way.. Rest of the team are looking well up for it though!!

bring on city!!
You say bring on city .
Why, we are not going to get any points out of them if we cant beat Wigan. could be in the bottom 3 this time next week.
Did you watch the game? Some bad defending from corners robbed us today, other than that we were all over Wigan, and could of had a hat full. I'm more than happy with our performance today and if we can keep this up we will be fine.

Ted Rogers says...
11:04pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Ted Rogers wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Red n White wrote:
Thought Cork was man of the match today, was brilliant. I was very surprised of his calmness on the ball and also some of the skills he showed which I'd never associated with him.
Apparently, for the 2nd goal we scored, it took us 16 seconds from winning the ball near our own box, to put it into the Wigan net.
Cork and Spidey are the heart of the team. Everything stems from them. They were awesome today.
Spider is probably the best holding midfielder player in the division on current form - he was awesome today and showed great discipline and maturity after his early yellow.
Thought Clyne looked out of sorts today and my Nan can distribute the ball better than Yoshi and Hooiveld.

As for the JRod knickers, he is the only guy capable of producing that kind of pace down the line to provide the assist for the second.
Shout for Boruc for the excellent save in the first half.
Great day, disappointed with a draw though when Wigan had three attempts and scored two!
I fancy us against City!!
Knockers...(auto correct)

St Retford says...
11:06pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Ted Rogers wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Red n White wrote:
Thought Cork was man of the match today, was brilliant. I was very surprised of his calmness on the ball and also some of the skills he showed which I'd never associated with him.
Apparently, for the 2nd goal we scored, it took us 16 seconds from winning the ball near our own box, to put it into the Wigan net.
Cork and Spidey are the heart of the team. Everything stems from them. They were awesome today.
Spider is probably the best holding midfielder player in the division on current form - he was awesome today and showed great discipline and maturity after his early yellow.
Thought Clyne looked out of sorts today and my Nan can distribute the ball better than Yoshi and Hooiveld.

As for the JRod knickers, he is the only guy capable of producing that kind of pace down the line to provide the assist for the second.
Shout for Boruc for the excellent save in the first half.
Great day, disappointed with a draw though when Wigan had three attempts and scored two!
I fancy us against City!!
I agree on Clyne. He didn't seem to fancy taking on anyone. Likewise, Jason Puncheon played like he was **** and Gaston didn't really do anything. Yet despite all of this the team performance was immense.

J-Rod is unlucky as he's just one of those blokes whose natural body language makes it seem like he can't be arsed, but I think it's just a look of concentration and focus. He'll do us right. I also fancy at least a point against City!

St Retford says...
11:10pm Sat 2 Feb 13

That missing word was "pished". Or thereabouts.

Ted Rogers says...
11:18pm Sat 2 Feb 13

St Retford wrote:
That missing word was "pished". Or thereabouts.
That was one of the most one-sided 45 minutes I've ever seen in top flight football.
I'd start against City with Lallana and JRod out wide.

zurichboy says...
11:31pm Sat 2 Feb 13

spirit of 66 wrote:
Disappointing not to win, but one point is just OK. Thirteen games left - a point a game would see us just scrape home. With seven home games, three of these as home wins/nine points would leave us having to get five or six points elsewhere. On recent performances this looks quite likely to see us stay up.
13 points plus the 23 that we have equaling 36 will NOT be enough. Have a look back at the records of the last 10 years or so. Only statistics I know but we MUST get at least 40 points to be safe.
I thought we played well today, their first goal was a great header on the day and the second...poor, poor marking. Overall tho' the quality of football looks better and I think (hope) that we will come good.

saintlysoul says...
11:32pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Having just watched MOTD I was impressed with the reaction of MP and the coaching staff when we scored the second. With passion like that saints will survive in this division I have no doubt!!!!!!!

hdfw09 says...
11:37pm Sat 2 Feb 13

The negativity on here is brutal. Saints controlled the match today, and Wednesday. We just aren't "finishing". We are definitely coming into our own and I think teams now see us as a tough match.

Playing aggressive and controlling the flow of the match. We are going the right direction. Davis is looking better. JRod is impressing. Lambert is just a stud. Should have had 2 assists today. Lallana is back!

Keep the faith Saints fans!

On another note, I have a question: Does anyone know the difference between Pompey and a bucket of sh1t? Answer: The Bucket

COYR

- Saints Fan in Texas

Jesus_02 says...
11:44pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Biggest thing I thought after watching MOTD was that Wigan are ngood enough to stay up.

Looking at the fixtures for saints it looks tough but I think both Wigan and Villa are doomed QPR seem to have a better run but we will see

arm chair fan says...
11:48pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Ted Rogers wrote:
Ted Rogers wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Red n White wrote:
Thought Cork was man of the match today, was brilliant. I was very surprised of his calmness on the ball and also some of the skills he showed which I'd never associated with him.
Apparently, for the 2nd goal we scored, it took us 16 seconds from winning the ball near our own box, to put it into the Wigan net.
Cork and Spidey are the heart of the team. Everything stems from them. They were awesome today.
Spider is probably the best holding midfielder player in the division on current form - he was awesome today and showed great discipline and maturity after his early yellow.
Thought Clyne looked out of sorts today and my Nan can distribute the ball better than Yoshi and Hooiveld.

As for the JRod knickers, he is the only guy capable of producing that kind of pace down the line to provide the assist for the second.
Shout for Boruc for the excellent save in the first half.
Great day, disappointed with a draw though when Wigan had three attempts and scored two!
I fancy us against City!!
Knockers...(auto correct)
knickers, or knockers? only one way to sort this out -------. sorry very childish!!!!! Two mistakes from corners, one each from CHs. Always difficult to judge who is making the mistakes if they do not trust their partners and try and cover.

St Retford says...
11:50pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Ted Rogers wrote:
St Retford wrote:
That missing word was "pished". Or thereabouts.
That was one of the most one-sided 45 minutes I've ever seen in top flight football.
I'd start against City with Lallana and JRod out wide.
I agree completely. I just wish after scoring our second we'd have carried on and pressed for three. We'd have got it.

arthur boutfaith says...
11:51pm Sat 2 Feb 13

hdfw09 wrote:
The negativity on here is brutal. Saints controlled the match today, and Wednesday. We just aren't "finishing". We are definitely coming into our own and I think teams now see us as a tough match.

Playing aggressive and controlling the flow of the match. We are going the right direction. Davis is looking better. JRod is impressing. Lambert is just a stud. Should have had 2 assists today. Lallana is back!

Keep the faith Saints fans!

On another note, I have a question: Does anyone know the difference between Pompey and a bucket of sh1t? Answer: The Bucket

COYR

- Saints Fan in Texas
Yeeeee-Harr !!

I hear ya cowboy !!

arm chair fan says...
11:56pm Sat 2 Feb 13

in all the years of watching saints can anyone tell me when they have seen a saints side chase down the opposition so quickly with two men as they have in the last 3 games ???? we have rolled over a few teams over the years but i cannt remember seeing this desire to close down.

F Fan says...
12:03am Sun 3 Feb 13

arm chair fan wrote:
in all the years of watching saints can anyone tell me when they have seen a saints side chase down the opposition so quickly with two men as they have in the last 3 games ???? we have rolled over a few teams over the years but i cannt remember seeing this desire to close down.
Yep - that's the big change the new manager has made - introducing a pressing game. Guess the danger is the high defensive line that tactic requires - is our defence fast enough when teams go over the top or break through the line.

mike saint says...
12:35am Sun 3 Feb 13

F Fan wrote:
mike saint wrote:
WECOMING4U wrote:
Poor defending can cost you in a second as was proven . Nice football can get you no-where in 90 mins? Just a thought?
Well said.
Why when we,ve got 2 second rate centre halfs didwe not buy any in January transfer window.
All season the defence has cost us points. I think it was a big mistake not to buy any and could lead to us being relagated.
Ah - Mike and Me Saint - must be Pompey - a WUM would know who we bought in the window.
I am most certainly not a pompey fan.
I am just disgusted that we have been
letting in soft goals all season and we have not bought in 2 centre halfs.
After todays game anyone can see that
Mayuka is crap and Hoolveld not much better but what cover have we got for both of them none.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
12:38am Sun 3 Feb 13

mike saint wrote:
SaintMark wrote:
Never thought I would say this but Davis is looking more up for it than Gaston, he's not looking like a team player. Punch seems to be going same way.. Rest of the team are looking well up for it though!!

bring on city!!
You say bring on city .
Why, we are not going to get any points out of them if we cant beat Wigan. could be in the bottom 3 this time next week.
Pissoffskunt

momogogo says...
1:29am Sun 3 Feb 13

We've got to be more positive about the direction of the club under MP. I, like most sane saints fans, was shocked to see NA go but we have to give MP a lot of credit for what he has done so far.

I have never seen us dominate games like we have in the last three - granted only for the second half against united.The only other times we have really outplayed this season was against Villa, QPR and Newcastle - who were all awful when we faced them. We have played teams in form and been better.

A few people have blamed this pressing style on the goals conceded but we have been so good at it teams have rarely got through and the goals today were off set pieces.

Hopefully we start turning this dominance in terms of possession and chances into wins.

sking19326 says...
1:34am Sun 3 Feb 13

pompey in spain wrote:
i said you lot would end up 16th, but now ???? you had to win this!! not enough passion from your fans!!!
T*SSER in Spain. How did Colchester do this weekend lol.....

Shhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!
!!

THEirishSAINT says...
1:56am Sun 3 Feb 13

Was gutted with the result we did enough go win thegame..fair play to SRL wen he put the ball in he clearly got hurt but like yhemachine he is rose straight to his feet.. Poor defend for both cornors..sooner fonte and vorren back the better IMO... COYR

sking19326 says...
2:07am Sun 3 Feb 13

mike saint wrote:
F Fan wrote:
mike saint wrote:
WECOMING4U wrote:
Poor defending can cost you in a second as was proven . Nice football can get you no-where in 90 mins? Just a thought?
Well said.
Why when we,ve got 2 second rate centre halfs didwe not buy any in January transfer window.
All season the defence has cost us points. I think it was a big mistake not to buy any and could lead to us being relagated.
Ah - Mike and Me Saint - must be Pompey - a WUM would know who we bought in the window.
I am most certainly not a pompey fan.
I am just disgusted that we have been
letting in soft goals all season and we have not bought in 2 centre halfs.
After todays game anyone can see that
Mayuka is crap and Hoolveld not much better but what cover have we got for both of them none.
You didn't even get the name right you muppet.........go and support Pompey you moaning kn*b

COYR

costa gaz says...
6:02am Sun 3 Feb 13

Would have, could have, should have.....DIDN'T
We have become the hardest working, best passing and pressing, attractive, non-winning team in the league.

Some fans are satisfied with playing nice football and getting praise from the plaudits. It's great to watch and I can see why some are getting excited about our team, but unfortunately we need to win matches.

We started the season playing pretty football and it left the defence completely exposed and we paid a hefty price.
Our game changed and we started moving in the right direction. Now our game has changed again where we are leaving the defence exposed once more.

Now, if some find this post negative, take a look at the table and our remaining fixtures.

Terry Fulford says...
6:15am Sun 3 Feb 13

I said it before and I say it again these Players hasn't got 90 minutes in them.
How many times have they lost the Game in the last 15 Minutes and in stoppage time, too many in my book.
Get exercising, GET TOUGH> DAM IT.

Clever Dick says...
6:50am Sun 3 Feb 13

So the Boruc knockers have disappeared after some great saves recently. Mite lose the J-Rod knockers after making one and putting off the defender for SRLs goal. Now some are returning to knock the two centre backs. FFS they can't and won't win every ball. They are £3M defenders playing in th toughest league in the world. They are doing ok and will do a lot better with the 100% support of the fans. After watching match choice I'd have to say Spider and Cork were immense, SRL out of this world, and the whole team put in a great shift. Punch needs to get back on it 'cos we don't have a natural replacement and Gaston shows some great touches but for £12M should be our stand out player. It's still in the balance as we need a few wins but if you can't enjoy that display then go and support Barcelona.. And yes we do have some tough games ahead, but guess what. So do all the other sides around us. COYS

SaintinCanada says...
7:16am Sun 3 Feb 13

Clever Dick wrote:
So the Boruc knockers have disappeared after some great saves recently. Mite lose the J-Rod knockers after making one and putting off the defender for SRLs goal. Now some are returning to knock the two centre backs. FFS they can't and won't win every ball. They are £3M defenders playing in th toughest league in the world. They are doing ok and will do a lot better with the 100% support of the fans. After watching match choice I'd have to say Spider and Cork were immense, SRL out of this world, and the whole team put in a great shift. Punch needs to get back on it 'cos we don't have a natural replacement and Gaston shows some great touches but for £12M should be our stand out player. It's still in the balance as we need a few wins but if you can't enjoy that display then go and support Barcelona.. And yes we do have some tough games ahead, but guess what. So do all the other sides around us. COYS
Well said!!

Rising_Son says...
7:32am Sun 3 Feb 13

costa gaz wrote:
Would have, could have, should have.....DIDN'T
We have become the hardest working, best passing and pressing, attractive, non-winning team in the league.

Some fans are satisfied with playing nice football and getting praise from the plaudits. It's great to watch and I can see why some are getting excited about our team, but unfortunately we need to win matches.

We started the season playing pretty football and it left the defence completely exposed and we paid a hefty price.
Our game changed and we started moving in the right direction. Now our game has changed again where we are leaving the defence exposed once more.

Now, if some find this post negative, take a look at the table and our remaining fixtures.
We might not have won yesterday, but I think that playing the way we do is going to bring in more points than, for example, the way we played against Villa. Very fortunate win, that.

Epsom Saint says...
7:51am Sun 3 Feb 13

I think some people are being too harsh on our young players, they are still improving. I seem to remember that Spider struggled to nail down a slot in the team while we were in L1 and the Championship, but now look at him. Be patient, we are getting better all the time.

SaintMark says...
8:15am Sun 3 Feb 13

Epsom Saint wrote:
I think some people are being too harsh on our young players, they are still improving. I seem to remember that Spider struggled to nail down a slot in the team while we were in L1 and the Championship, but now look at him. Be patient, we are getting better all the time.
Most improved player by far!

SaintMark says...
8:16am Sun 3 Feb 13

Clever Dick wrote:
So the Boruc knockers have disappeared after some great saves recently. Mite lose the J-Rod knockers after making one and putting off the defender for SRLs goal. Now some are returning to knock the two centre backs. FFS they can't and won't win every ball. They are £3M defenders playing in th toughest league in the world. They are doing ok and will do a lot better with the 100% support of the fans. After watching match choice I'd have to say Spider and Cork were immense, SRL out of this world, and the whole team put in a great shift. Punch needs to get back on it 'cos we don't have a natural replacement and Gaston shows some great touches but for £12M should be our stand out player. It's still in the balance as we need a few wins but if you can't enjoy that display then go and support Barcelona.. And yes we do have some tough games ahead, but guess what. So do all the other sides around us. COYS
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BowesSaint says...
8:30am Sun 3 Feb 13

Mr. Miyagi wrote:
AmsterdamSaint wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
skiptonsaint wrote:
My other concern sat on the train after watching today is And this might not be agreed with

We have possibly wasted money on

Gaston
Mayuka
Jrod (although maybe not. He might get 10 this season and does try)
Gazza ?
Lee slighlty before ?

We bought well with
Clyne

And have had what looks like sone luck with free players
Shaw
Borouc

And jury is out on
Davis
Yoshida
But poss good buys.

We need forren to be a hit
and people like jwp to come through

And punchoen looks less interested last few games. Contract issues ?

If the teams below us buy well
Ie newcastles last 2 results

We could have probs

Not sure we can afford to be this hit and miss in the transfer market

Just a thought
Some very good points here!
I think Davis is a pretty good buy. And Yoshida too.
I may get slated but, I think Yoshida is the weak link in our defence. He scares the sh1t out of me everytime he goes near the ball. His marking at set pieces seems off as well. When his man makes a run, he loses them too easily. Like others have said, going forward we are top class and match for anyone, but still defend with a lot of niavety. Worried about teams around us strengthening, where we are going we what we have, apart from Forren.
No offence but you're talking absolute nonsense. Yoshida reads the game excellently, do you go to many
matches ? He not only does his own job he covers for the full backs too when they get pulled out of position. In the last three games I've seen him peronally stop at least three or four goals with some excellent tackles and intercepts with superlative timing. Defensively. he. Morgan and Jack must be first on the team sheet !

OSPREYSAINT says...
8:36am Sun 3 Feb 13

mike saint wrote:
F Fan wrote:
mike saint wrote:
WECOMING4U wrote:
Poor defending can cost you in a second as was proven . Nice football can get you no-where in 90 mins? Just a thought?
Well said.
Why when we,ve got 2 second rate centre halfs didwe not buy any in January transfer window.
All season the defence has cost us points. I think it was a big mistake not to buy any and could lead to us being relagated.
Ah - Mike and Me Saint - must be Pompey - a WUM would know who we bought in the window.
I am most certainly not a pompey fan.
I am just disgusted that we have been
letting in soft goals all season and we have not bought in 2 centre halfs.
After todays game anyone can see that
Mayuka is crap and Hoolveld not much better but what cover have we got for both of them none.
We haven't seen Mayuka at Centre Back yet so how you can criticise him for that, that is out of order, I assume you meant Yoshida? He has been outstanding at times, just prone to an odd error, which always seems to be punished. Hooiveld was said to be not up to Premier, but he still puts in a good shift every time he steps on the pitch in a Saints shirt, he is not our first pick but has never moaned about it. Perhaps when Fonte and Forren are in the defence it will once again be tighter.

Clever Dick says...
8:40am Sun 3 Feb 13

Agreed. Good signing and getting better all the time.

Dpercsfc says...
8:43am Sun 3 Feb 13

Unbelievable some of the posters on here. Yes it was disappointing not to get the win, but we were away from home and we continued our run of excellent form on performance. We are ABOVE the relegation zone ffs! Are these people only going to be happy if we're battling for Europe already? It was a significantly worse result for Wigan, Villa's point will have felt even worse (albeit in a tougher fixture), QPR dropped a huge two points against a team in dire form and Reading only just got a win which was a must-win anyway. We're staying up people - get off the teams back and support them like the fans who made the trip yesterday did!

jerseysaint says...
8:47am Sun 3 Feb 13

Bit frustrated at only a point but we are still 3 points above relegation the saving grace was villa not winning and we kept 3 points between us and Wigan. I think we will win next week against city if we play the pressing game. We just have to keep 3 Points between us and bottom 3 then at least we can lose one and still be out of bottom 3.

Rising_Son says...
8:47am Sun 3 Feb 13

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
mike saint wrote:
F Fan wrote:
mike saint wrote:
WECOMING4U wrote:
Poor defending can cost you in a second as was proven . Nice football can get you no-where in 90 mins? Just a thought?
Well said.
Why when we,ve got 2 second rate centre halfs didwe not buy any in January transfer window.
All season the defence has cost us points. I think it was a big mistake not to buy any and could lead to us being relagated.
Ah - Mike and Me Saint - must be Pompey - a WUM would know who we bought in the window.
I am most certainly not a pompey fan.
I am just disgusted that we have been
letting in soft goals all season and we have not bought in 2 centre halfs.
After todays game anyone can see that
Mayuka is crap and Hoolveld not much better but what cover have we got for both of them none.
We haven't seen Mayuka at Centre Back yet so how you can criticise him for that, that is out of order, I assume you meant Yoshida? He has been outstanding at times, just prone to an odd error, which always seems to be punished. Hooiveld was said to be not up to Premier, but he still puts in a good shift every time he steps on the pitch in a Saints shirt, he is not our first pick but has never moaned about it. Perhaps when Fonte and Forren are in the defence it will once again be tighter.
Assuming Forren becomes a default choice for one CB place (as is very likely), the choice for the second spot is probably going to be between Fonte and Yoshida. It's going to be interesting to see who Pochettino goes for. I don't think there's much between them.

St Graz says...
8:52am Sun 3 Feb 13

SaintMark wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
So the Boruc knockers have disappeared after some great saves recently. Mite lose the J-Rod knockers after making one and putting off the defender for SRLs goal. Now some are returning to knock the two centre backs. FFS they can't and won't win every ball. They are £3M defenders playing in th toughest league in the world. They are doing ok and will do a lot better with the 100% support of the fans. After watching match choice I'd have to say Spider and Cork were immense, SRL out of this world, and the whole team put in a great shift. Punch needs to get back on it 'cos we don't have a natural replacement and Gaston shows some great touches but for £12M should be our stand out player. It's still in the balance as we need a few wins but if you can't enjoy that display then go and support Barcelona.. And yes we do have some tough games ahead, but guess what. So do all the other sides around us. COYS
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Bang on - exactly why I won't be knocking Gaston, he's still young and maybe needs more time working with the coaching team. Based on what I've seen we seem more likely to get results than capitulate. I don't think the players will fear man city.

Costa Baz says...
8:55am Sun 3 Feb 13

Why are people moaning about the high pressing game leaving the defence exposed? We've only conceded 1 goal from open play, in 3 matches, and that wasn't due to the new style of play.
Those complaining about Yoshida are clearly not noticing how often he sweeps up behind the full backs. Yes he can be faulted for the first Wigan goal, but he is a good CB who is getting better each game he plays.
The player I would change, though, is Puncheon. He needs too many touches, too often picks out the wrong pass and is too predictable, always cutting inside.
Someone said we need more goals from the midfielders, but with Puncheon narrowing the play, he is forcing the opposition's defence to become more compact, when he cuts in, reducing the gaps for our players to exploit.

Clever Dick says...
8:56am Sun 3 Feb 13

Dpercsfc wrote:
Unbelievable some of the posters on here. Yes it was disappointing not to get the win, but we were away from home and we continued our run of excellent form on performance. We are ABOVE the relegation zone ffs! Are these people only going to be happy if we're battling for Europe already? It was a significantly worse result for Wigan, Villa's point will have felt even worse (albeit in a tougher fixture), QPR dropped a huge two points against a team in dire form and Reading only just got a win which was a must-win anyway. We're staying up people - get off the teams back and support them like the fans who made the trip yesterday did!
Yep. Such short memories and ludicrous expectations for a team in it's first year back in the Prem. Keep the faith and the support and stop the constant crticism of everything which doesn't go our way. We've had some pretty dire luck so far and we're still in with a good chance of staying where we belong.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
9:00am Sun 3 Feb 13

momogogo wrote:
We've got to be more positive about the direction of the club under MP. I, like most sane saints fans, was shocked to see NA go but we have to give MP a lot of credit for what he has done so far.

I have never seen us dominate games like we have in the last three - granted only for the second half against united.The only other times we have really outplayed this season was against Villa, QPR and Newcastle - who were all awful when we faced them. We have played teams in form and been better.

A few people have blamed this pressing style on the goals conceded but we have been so good at it teams have rarely got through and the goals today were off set pieces.

Hopefully we start turning this dominance in terms of possession and chances into wins.
That

Buddy SFC says...
9:02am Sun 3 Feb 13

Dpercsfc wrote:
Unbelievable some of the posters on here. Yes it was disappointing not to get the win, but we were away from home and we continued our run of excellent form on performance. We are ABOVE the relegation zone ffs! Are these people only going to be happy if we're battling for Europe already? It was a significantly worse result for Wigan, Villa's point will have felt even worse (albeit in a tougher fixture), QPR dropped a huge two points against a team in dire form and Reading only just got a win which was a must-win anyway. We're staying up people - get off the teams back and support them like the fans who made the trip yesterday did!
Top post ! And remember we are now towards the end of the same horrific fixture clash we had for the first 10 games ..... This time though we are taking points which we didn't in the first 10 games !

With the ball running for us we will have a strong finish to the season and blow away relegation !

Mind, then some of the posters on here will still be moaning ??? The temp in the ground is just not acceptable,NC sort it out , wrong bleach in the loo ???

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
9:08am Sun 3 Feb 13

costa gaz wrote:
Would have, could have, should have.....DIDN'T
We have become the hardest working, best passing and pressing, attractive, non-winning team in the league.

Some fans are satisfied with playing nice football and getting praise from the plaudits. It's great to watch and I can see why some are getting excited about our team, but unfortunately we need to win matches.

We started the season playing pretty football and it left the defence completely exposed and we paid a hefty price.
Our game changed and we started moving in the right direction. Now our game has changed again where we are leaving the defence exposed once more.

Now, if some find this post negative, take a look at the table and our remaining fixtures.
We're a work in progress and the progress of the last three years has been truly breathtaking, Infact it couldn't have been better. Ferguson said on Wednesday that we were the best team to visit Old Trafford this season and a group of Wigan fans said the same thing yesterday about teams at the DW.

We didn't leave the defence exposed, Infact our defence was rarely breached and when it was Boruc was immense ( hands up I got him wrong) - it was poor defending from set pieces that cost us again. Corners against Wigan and set pieces against Manure. With our first choice centre half out and our new signing yet to start I expect us to improve in this area.

This season will be a battle until the end but make no mistake something very exciting is happening here!

Stroppy_gramps says...
9:09am Sun 3 Feb 13

Yoshida never stops pressing. he's very busy in defence.

the only criticism I have of him from the match yesterday is that I think he should have taken the shot on goal instead of leaving it for Lallana because Yoshida was facing square on to the goal and could see where the goalie was.

Yoshida is great value and I think he's better every game. he's had a steep learning curve and he's done very well.

If we need to do anything its work on the finishing, strap a small device to Puncheon so we can give him a small electric shock every time he cuts inside and allow Shaw to learn from the mistake he made by staying on the post at the corner when they scored.

However please don't think I am knocking Shaw - that kid is a future England player and I hope he continues playing like yesterday.
Once again we saw him stay strong in the tackle, keep the ball and set up a delightful run up the pitch for spiderman to score. Pure dynamite!
If anything he is light on experience - but for his age he's a great asset to the team. I just hope we keep him.

Buddy SFC says...
9:10am Sun 3 Feb 13

Also I can't believe Yoshida is being caned ....... He had a poor game but he has been the catalyst that has improved JFonte out of all recognition this year and has taken charge of the back line and what an improvement we have seen .....

Remember Luuuuukkeeee has been an inspiration since November ,,,,, but shhhhhhh it was his mistake that gave the second goal away ........ hey guess what ?? we all make mistakes....

Well done SFC another top performance in the best league in the world ! Getting stronger by the week ........

verwoodsaint says...
9:12am Sun 3 Feb 13

Clever Dick wrote:
So the Boruc knockers have disappeared after some great saves recently. Mite lose the J-Rod knockers after making one and putting off the defender for SRLs goal. Now some are returning to knock the two centre backs. FFS they can't and won't win every ball. They are £3M defenders playing in th toughest league in the world. They are doing ok and will do a lot better with the 100% support of the fans. After watching match choice I'd have to say Spider and Cork were immense, SRL out of this world, and the whole team put in a great shift. Punch needs to get back on it 'cos we don't have a natural replacement and Gaston shows some great touches but for £12M should be our stand out player. It's still in the balance as we need a few wins but if you can't enjoy that display then go and support Barcelona.. And yes we do have some tough games ahead, but guess what. So do all the other sides around us. COYS
Brilliant , weel said...

Terry Fulford says...
9:15am Sun 3 Feb 13

jerseysaint wrote:
Bit frustrated at only a point but we are still 3 points above relegation the saving grace was villa not winning and we kept 3 points between us and Wigan. I think we will win next week against city if we play the pressing game. We just have to keep 3 Points between us and bottom 3 then at least we can lose one and still be out of bottom 3.
Just 3 points are not enough we are running out of games.

Buddy SFC says...
9:20am Sun 3 Feb 13

Terry Fulford wrote:
jerseysaint wrote: Bit frustrated at only a point but we are still 3 points above relegation the saving grace was villa not winning and we kept 3 points between us and Wigan. I think we will win next week against city if we play the pressing game. We just have to keep 3 Points between us and bottom 3 then at least we can lose one and still be out of bottom 3.
Just 3 points are not enough we are running out of games.
That's the point we are still 3 points clear but with 3 less games ......... Keep the faith and enjoy the football ........

Frustrated yes, but with a little luck and we are off !

RedArmy1 says...
9:56am Sun 3 Feb 13

The FANS and MANAGER are frustrated as WE WANT the 3 POINTS and the WINS !!!

TIME ... to bring in F+F (CENTRE) to Strengthen the Defence and stop the goal leak. It will make a DIFFERENCE !!

MAGNIFICENT FANS :

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON.

RED ARMY 2013. FIGHT AND WIN.
TOP IN THE SOUTH. COYR.

batesieboy says...
10:08am Sun 3 Feb 13

mike saint wrote:
WECOMING4U wrote:
Poor defending can cost you in a second as was proven . Nice football can get you no-where in 90 mins? Just a thought?
Well said.
Why when we,ve got 2 second rate centre halfs didwe not buy any in January transfer window.
All season the defence has cost us points. I think it was a big mistake not to buy any and could lead to us being relagated.
Can you actually read?

batesieboy says...
10:11am Sun 3 Feb 13

saintlysoul wrote:
Having just watched MOTD I was impressed with the reaction of MP and the coaching staff when we scored the second. With passion like that saints will survive in this division I have no doubt!!!!!!!
That is the passion that winning sides should show AT THE FINAL WHISTLE. Not before.

petethephantom says...
10:16am Sun 3 Feb 13

g'day from sydney oz

watched the game at 2am sydney time, and just watched the taped replay and my conclusion is same as i have held even more so now .... is that as I have stated that yoshida is a total waste of time and not worth one cent/ sorry penny..... been saying that for a long time... how many more goals and points is he going to cost us

C O Y R

batesieboy says...
10:19am Sun 3 Feb 13

Terry Fulford wrote:
jerseysaint wrote:
Bit frustrated at only a point but we are still 3 points above relegation the saving grace was villa not winning and we kept 3 points between us and Wigan. I think we will win next week against city if we play the pressing game. We just have to keep 3 Points between us and bottom 3 then at least we can lose one and still be out of bottom 3.
Just 3 points are not enough we are running out of games.
So is everyone else. Calm down!

JohnItaly says...
10:19am Sun 3 Feb 13

batesieboy wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Having just watched MOTD I was impressed with the reaction of MP and the coaching staff when we scored the second. With passion like that saints will survive in this division I have no doubt!!!!!!!
That is the passion that winning sides should show AT THE FINAL WHISTLE. Not before.
Unfortunately it is points that will make us safe not passion. What concerns me is Saints are playing well but not winning Am convinced the Gods are not on our side at the moment. Reading appear to be riding their luck so am just waiting for the tide to turn in our favour, which it surely will.

swesaint says...
10:25am Sun 3 Feb 13

costa gaz wrote:
Would have, could have, should have.....DIDN'T
We have become the hardest working, best passing and pressing, attractive, non-winning team in the league.

Some fans are satisfied with playing nice football and getting praise from the plaudits. It's great to watch and I can see why some are getting excited about our team, but unfortunately we need to win matches.

We started the season playing pretty football and it left the defence completely exposed and we paid a hefty price.
Our game changed and we started moving in the right direction. Now our game has changed again where we are leaving the defence exposed once more.

Now, if some find this post negative, take a look at the table and our remaining fixtures.
Not that negative, it just shows that you dont really know much about football.

InThatNumber says...
10:27am Sun 3 Feb 13

Can I just say we've gone away to Wigan and once again dominated for large parts of the game, I wasn't there but with pubs streaming the away games live you get to see the whole picture. Admittedly we didn't get the result our forward play deserved but I for one am delighted with the way Ponch has set the team up to play. It's a pleasure to watch and while we only have 2pts from a possible 9 with a bit of luck and sterner defending which may come with our new signing coming back from injury the results are gonna come. Man city at home next in front of the tv which sounds a daunting task but the title will all but be United's after a home win. I'm not knocking Nigel Adkins he's done a fantastic job for us but sometimes his negativity has cost us results, the championship last season was ours for the winning but we came 2nd. Lets all move on and get behind the team and the new manager and climb the table.

Rising_Son says...
10:31am Sun 3 Feb 13

petethephantom wrote:
g'day from sydney oz

watched the game at 2am sydney time, and just watched the taped replay and my conclusion is same as i have held even more so now .... is that as I have stated that yoshida is a total waste of time and not worth one cent/ sorry penny..... been saying that for a long time... how many more goals and points is he going to cost us

C O Y R
Are you trying to say that Yoshida is responsible for most of the goals we've let in this season?

I know he got it wrong for their first goal yesterday, but I don't think you have the evidence to justify your unbelievably negative evaluation of him.

Strasbourg Saint says...
10:36am Sun 3 Feb 13

I was angry when Nigel was sacked, then I realised he would have got a decent package and will find another challenge, so I got over it.

I was angry when Wigan equalised yesterday, then I realised that, errors aside, we'll be fine this year and we're developing into one of the greatest squad of players in Europe, so I'll get over it.

Now I'm angry that so many so-called Saints fans are so negative all the bl00dy time, then I remember 'Oh When The Saints' being sung by the MAGNIFICANT away fans these past two games and I realise the negs' views are insignificant in meaning and quantity and they'll still be moaning when we win the Champions League on penalties because Messi was allowed to dribble his way the length of the pitch past 10 players in the 94th minute to equalise.

So, anger management done, bring on Man City. (Norgie, get your 'Noel, Liam .... hell of a beating' quote ready.)

SFCOLDBOY says...
10:43am Sun 3 Feb 13

Costa Baz wrote:
Why are people moaning about the high pressing game leaving the defence exposed? We've only conceded 1 goal from open play, in 3 matches, and that wasn't due to the new style of play.
Those complaining about Yoshida are clearly not noticing how often he sweeps up behind the full backs. Yes he can be faulted for the first Wigan goal, but he is a good CB who is getting better each game he plays.
The player I would change, though, is Puncheon. He needs too many touches, too often picks out the wrong pass and is too predictable, always cutting inside.
Someone said we need more goals from the midfielders, but with Puncheon narrowing the play, he is forcing the opposition's defence to become more compact, when he cuts in, reducing the gaps for our players to exploit.
I went to the match yesterday and I agree about your view on Puncheon.
I get infuriated that he has to constantly turn inside to get the ball onto his left foot.
The defenders know this and disposess him most of the time.
We lose all momentum time and again.
He is there to provide right sided width.
Problem is he is not pacy enough to go past the full backs.
I thought that he was beginning to improve with the game minutes he has had, I am afraid to say he is still a weak link.

On a more possitive note I really enjoyed the way our team played yesterday.
Guts and determination,notica
bly shown by Rickie Lambert putting his head where most would'n have put their foot, to score the goal.
Gutted about our loss of 2 points.
We deserved all 3.
WHAT SUPPORTERS WE HAVE
"FANTASTIC"
Bring on Man City.
COYR

Confucious says...
10:48am Sun 3 Feb 13

We've been unlucky not to pick up more points since Christmas. That will change - it always evens out.

And by any measure for many weeks now we have certainly been the better of all the teams in the bottom six - and we're still improving. Just compare our performance yesterday against the home fixture against Wigan.

Of course there's plenty of anxiety about amongst us fans - but that's nothing new. We had three years sweating at avoiding (unsuccessfully) two relegations and then three years sweating at gaining two promotions. And now here we are again in that "every match is vital now" scenario.

It makes you think that it'd be really nice for a change to have a break from the tension in mid table. But then again, what a time we've had. Elation, despair, triumph, tragedy, wonderful leaps forward, awful set-backs and a heady mix of fear and hope. Boring it is not.

And what more could we reasonably want? We're in the Prem; we're out of the relegation pack and improving; we have a fantastic owner; good and ambitious management; solid finances and exciting infrastructure investment going in for the future.

When my heart goes down after a late equaliser like yesterday, I need to remind myself where we are.

Bring on City - and thank gawd we're in a position to think, quite realistically, that we can beat 'em.

Ooooh, aaargh, oh yes!!!!, o no!!!! Phew - it's good to be Saint.

petethephantom says...
10:49am Sun 3 Feb 13

in at least 3 games for start, not to mention the amount of times he passes the ball to someone else in a worse position.
I feel there are or has to be better options within the club than what he is offering

I hope he proves me wrong in his next appearance and has an absolute blinder, and I can say I was wrong.... one can hope

SFCOLDBOY says...
10:53am Sun 3 Feb 13

Nice to have bumped into Seedhouse and Bad Bill yesterday.

Bill, did you get that pie?

Not too sure they looked as good as they are reputed to be.

EricMartin'sHat says...
11:01am Sun 3 Feb 13

Before yesterday's game, and based on how we're playing recently, I predicted around 44 points and safety. But now? Lately we've been getting 1.25 points per game, and that means ending the season on 40 points, which might not be enough. Our goal diff suggests we'll be ok, as that rarely lies; but we might need 6 points from last two games (sunderland/stoke)!

Looking at how Reading, Newcastle and QPR were playing, I had us down for 7 to 9 points from those games, but when you see how they're playing now I reckon we'll get 0 to 3. Got to get full points from those three games.

Of course, if we beat Man C next it could open the floodgates and we'll be on for 50 points :-)

COYS

Bring back Branfoot says...
11:09am Sun 3 Feb 13

Costa Baz wrote:
Why are people moaning about the high pressing game leaving the defence exposed? We've only conceded 1 goal from open play, in 3 matches, and that wasn't due to the new style of play.
Those complaining about Yoshida are clearly not noticing how often he sweeps up behind the full backs. Yes he can be faulted for the first Wigan goal, but he is a good CB who is getting better each game he plays.
The player I would change, though, is Puncheon. He needs too many touches, too often picks out the wrong pass and is too predictable, always cutting inside.
Someone said we need more goals from the midfielders, but with Puncheon narrowing the play, he is forcing the opposition's defence to become more compact, when he cuts in, reducing the gaps for our players to exploit.
He makes some good points! Too many touches and too predictable was the Adkins way. I think Poch is trying to change this but it will take the players some time to adapt to a new style of play.

As for the defensive frailties, that is the biggest legacy left by Nigel. Hopefully the new chap lives up to expectations and can help sure things up.

Bring back Branfoot says...
11:15am Sun 3 Feb 13

saintlysoul wrote:
skiptonsaint wrote:
I agree we looked good today for a large chunk of the match same as everton and man u games

Maybe adam should of been on at half time btw

Can we play this pressing game for the whole 90 though

We are having a frustrating season

But the fact remains that a few unlucky results and we could be in real trouble

Equally we could go on a run starting with beating city and finish mid table

I do feel for the first time in many a year that we could seriously beat anyone now on our day

Was great to see both goals go in down out end as well

Coyr
It's very encouraging that not only can we play good passing football but we can score as well! It seems like the midfield did well today and Davis, Lalana and JWP did well when they got in! When you consider this perhaps it's not surprising that NC and MP didn't see the need to invest in more midfielders!

The defence seems to have had problems today. No doubt that is something they'll have to work on in training this week.

I'm very optimistic about the rest if the season now. I think MP will go from strength I strength and that Saints will definitely stay up!!!!!
Agree with everything, although I I am more pecimistic about the defense. I don't think they measly had an off day, there are underlying problems there.

up saints says...
11:17am Sun 3 Feb 13

you can all blame the defence but when you have a 13mil playmaker who cant hit the target from 6 yards that tells you alot

Rising_Son says...
11:18am Sun 3 Feb 13

petethephantom wrote:
in at least 3 games for start, not to mention the amount of times he passes the ball to someone else in a worse position.
I feel there are or has to be better options within the club than what he is offering

I hope he proves me wrong in his next appearance and has an absolute blinder, and I can say I was wrong.... one can hope
I think he reads the game rather well and covers other defenders pretty effectively. I don't think his passing is nearly as bad as you say, and he is getting noticeably better with time. Occasionally he is a bit 'clumsy' but, for me, the positives far outweigh the negatives.

St Forlife says...
11:19am Sun 3 Feb 13

I try not to post the day of a game - emotions all run too high. Read a few of the above.

Totally dominated the game and everytimne we lost the ball we gotr iot back.

Bit concerned over the number of times we are forcing goalies to make a save though. I liked NAs way of getting lots of players in their box from midfieldf - to be fairv thats how Spider scored - what a run and finish!!

Going forward is good and come on we've probably got the best or one of the best Full Back pairs in the whole league. I don't think we can blame the Centre Halves though - it's a style thing that is causing the leaks at the back.

A game we should have won - again - dropping the 2 pts at Stoke and again yesterday plus 2 goalkeeping errors earlier in the season - we'd be top half. So let's just focus on what is good - continue to play to our strengths.

On paper we shouldn't get much against the Champions next week - but who knows. However, I'd be a lot more worried supporting some of the other teams around us at the moment who may not know where the goals are coming from.

Bring back Branfoot says...
11:23am Sun 3 Feb 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Would have, could have, should have.....DIDN'T
We have become the hardest working, best passing and pressing, attractive, non-winning team in the league.

Some fans are satisfied with playing nice football and getting praise from the plaudits. It's great to watch and I can see why some are getting excited about our team, but unfortunately we need to win matches.

We started the season playing pretty football and it left the defence completely exposed and we paid a hefty price.
Our game changed and we started moving in the right direction. Now our game has changed again where we are leaving the defence exposed once more.

Now, if some find this post negative, take a look at the table and our remaining fixtures.
We're a work in progress and the progress of the last three years has been truly breathtaking, Infact it couldn't have been better. Ferguson said on Wednesday that we were the best team to visit Old Trafford this season and a group of Wigan fans said the same thing yesterday about teams at the DW.

We didn't leave the defence exposed, Infact our defence was rarely breached and when it was Boruc was immense ( hands up I got him wrong) - it was poor defending from set pieces that cost us again. Corners against Wigan and set pieces against Manure. With our first choice centre half out and our new signing yet to start I expect us to improve in this area.

This season will be a battle until the end but make no mistake something very exciting is happening here!
He's right! Sth special is happening and people should stop being so pecimistic about the club's future. The new CB will help sure things up. We are going in the right direction!

St.Yorkie says...
11:25am Sun 3 Feb 13

It was a bitter sweet experience yesterday. Bitter the late equlaiser - sweet the second goal.
At times the fans were quiet - but overall I thought it was an OK awayday.
Still amazed at the second goal - and I thought Schneiderlin was just a midfield player. Box to box midfielder and obviously one of the fittest players in the team. Full marks to JWP and JRod for making the break down the left - great pace and vision. the ball into Morgan was right in his stride. No wonder they celebrated.
Frustrated with Gaston & Puncheon yesterday.
Overall though I am confident there are at least 3-times worse than us. Parked in deepest residential Wigan. Some bloke came out of his house with kids and puppy..."You were lucky - that's the worst Wigan have played all season" apparently he streamed the game! I repsonded with - "Perhaps we didn't let you play" - he had no answer.
More streaming next week - but it was nice to be able to afford to go to a game again - and home by 7pm across The Pennines.
As an aside the pub Red Robin was suprisingly quiet for an away pub. Getting a drink was difficult but it wasn't 20-deep at the bar!
LOve to see Schnierlin's goal - anyone got a link? Must be the best team goal we have scored this season!

Velleity says...
11:36am Sun 3 Feb 13

I saw the lot yesterday in a pub.

For a very long period in the game it was like looking at a top of the table team against a bottom of the table team. Wigan were pressed every single time they had the ball and simply couldn't put an attack together. We were runnig riot. If the shirt colours had been changed, it could have been Man U versus Villa.

However, the chances we generated didn't turn into goals. We had seven on target yesterday and two went in. We've seen games (leeds last year) where we had one chance on target and one goal. That's the way it goes. Some go in, some don't. A couple of errors from set pieces and the disappointment was complete.

However, the *way* we are creating the chances is by playing some of the most exciting football I've ever seen. For long chunks of the past three games we have been simply breathtaking. Those chunks will get longer as the team coalesces into what MP is looking for; what a time we'll have watching it happen.

And for all the dullards pointing out how other teams are doing, remember the tale of the two guys being tracked by a tiger in the jungle. One sits down to put on his running shoes. The other guy points out that there's no point, he won't be able to outrun a tiger. The guy finishes tying up his shoe, stand up and says "You're right, but I don't have to, I just have to outrun you!"

It's easy to assume that everyone below us will suddenly come upon a run of form and overtake us but it's unlikely; they were worse than us up to now, they'll probably be worse in the future. (Think of the chances that QPR might go on a run and overtake us - I'll show my a***e in Sainsburys if they do).

We'll survive and, most importantly, we'll have fun watching us do it.

slugger says...
11:41am Sun 3 Feb 13

SFCOLDBOY wrote:
Nice to have bumped into Seedhouse and Bad Bill yesterday.

Bill, did you get that pie?

Not too sure they looked as good as they are reputed to be.
Do you mean the pies , or Seed and Bill ?

Velleity says...
11:42am Sun 3 Feb 13

up saints wrote:
you can all blame the defence but when you have a 13mil playmaker who cant hit the target from 6 yards that tells you alot
Cripes!

Have you ever seens Van Persie miss a sitter?

Have you ever seens Rooney miss a sitter?

Have you ever seens Lampard miss a sitter?

Aguero, Vila, etc, etc.

It happens. It happens against us and it happens for us.


You've made it clear you don't like the bloke but that's a daft argument.

If you'd argued that he doesn't seem to be firing on all cylinders recently I might have had some sympathy but one miss?

andysaints007 says...
11:47am Sun 3 Feb 13

Saintsayer II wrote:
One half against Everton, one half against Utd and one half against Wigan is this a plan or is it because the players are unable to sustain the high energy levels needed with MoPo' s pass and press tactics

I watched on line and it is certainly entertaining but Forren or Fonte are needed sooner rather than later

Was Clyne injured or was it tactical?Clyne would probably been better positioned to stop their equaliser
PRATT

Strasbourg Saint says...
11:51am Sun 3 Feb 13

Velleity wrote:
I saw the lot yesterday in a pub.

For a very long period in the game it was like looking at a top of the table team against a bottom of the table team. Wigan were pressed every single time they had the ball and simply couldn't put an attack together. We were runnig riot. If the shirt colours had been changed, it could have been Man U versus Villa.

However, the chances we generated didn't turn into goals. We had seven on target yesterday and two went in. We've seen games (leeds last year) where we had one chance on target and one goal. That's the way it goes. Some go in, some don't. A couple of errors from set pieces and the disappointment was complete.

However, the *way* we are creating the chances is by playing some of the most exciting football I've ever seen. For long chunks of the past three games we have been simply breathtaking. Those chunks will get longer as the team coalesces into what MP is looking for; what a time we'll have watching it happen.

And for all the dullards pointing out how other teams are doing, remember the tale of the two guys being tracked by a tiger in the jungle. One sits down to put on his running shoes. The other guy points out that there's no point, he won't be able to outrun a tiger. The guy finishes tying up his shoe, stand up and says "You're right, but I don't have to, I just have to outrun you!"

It's easy to assume that everyone below us will suddenly come upon a run of form and overtake us but it's unlikely; they were worse than us up to now, they'll probably be worse in the future. (Think of the chances that QPR might go on a run and overtake us - I'll show my a***e in Sainsburys if they do).

We'll survive and, most importantly, we'll have fun watching us do it.
Exactly. Next year's going to be a right boring slog. We'll be 20 points clear at the top by mid-March and will only need a couple of easy wins at, say, The Emirates and OT to secure the title.

MOTD will go on about 'concentrating on the chase for second' and show 30 seconds of our 4-0 win at the end of the programme after Spams hoofball 0-0 draw at dirty Stoke, and then moan that we caught the other team on an off day.

It's all going to be
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUULL

Strasbourg Saint says...
11:53am Sun 3 Feb 13

andysaints007 wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
One half against Everton, one half against Utd and one half against Wigan is this a plan or is it because the players are unable to sustain the high energy levels needed with MoPo' s pass and press tactics

I watched on line and it is certainly entertaining but Forren or Fonte are needed sooner rather than later

Was Clyne injured or was it tactical?Clyne would probably been better positioned to stop their equaliser
PRATT
Happy as ever, then :(

Strasbourg Saint says...
11:54am Sun 3 Feb 13

Velleity wrote:
up saints wrote:
you can all blame the defence but when you have a 13mil playmaker who cant hit the target from 6 yards that tells you alot
Cripes!

Have you ever seens Van Persie miss a sitter?

Have you ever seens Rooney miss a sitter?

Have you ever seens Lampard miss a sitter?

Aguero, Vila, etc, etc.

It happens. It happens against us and it happens for us.


You've made it clear you don't like the bloke but that's a daft argument.

If you'd argued that he doesn't seem to be firing on all cylinders recently I might have had some sympathy but one miss?
At least it gives Guly a break!

MGRA says...
11:56am Sun 3 Feb 13

Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....

up saints says...
11:58am Sun 3 Feb 13

Velleity wrote:
up saints wrote:
you can all blame the defence but when you have a 13mil playmaker who cant hit the target from 6 yards that tells you alot
Cripes!

Have you ever seens Van Persie miss a sitter?

Have you ever seens Rooney miss a sitter?

Have you ever seens Lampard miss a sitter?

Aguero, Vila, etc, etc.

It happens. It happens against us and it happens for us.


You've made it clear you don't like the bloke but that's a daft argument.

If you'd argued that he doesn't seem to be firing on all cylinders recently I might have had some sympathy but one miss?
what iam saying is that if ramirez scored and we won 3-2 all the posts on here would not be about the defence.i have not said i don't like the bloke but when you need 3 points away you can't afford a ramirez style player in midfield.

Strasbourg Saint says...
12:03pm Sun 3 Feb 13

St.Yorkie wrote:
It was a bitter sweet experience yesterday. Bitter the late equlaiser - sweet the second goal.
At times the fans were quiet - but overall I thought it was an OK awayday.
Still amazed at the second goal - and I thought Schneiderlin was just a midfield player. Box to box midfielder and obviously one of the fittest players in the team. Full marks to JWP and JRod for making the break down the left - great pace and vision. the ball into Morgan was right in his stride. No wonder they celebrated.
Frustrated with Gaston & Puncheon yesterday.
Overall though I am confident there are at least 3-times worse than us. Parked in deepest residential Wigan. Some bloke came out of his house with kids and puppy..."You were lucky - that's the worst Wigan have played all season" apparently he streamed the game! I repsonded with - "Perhaps we didn't let you play" - he had no answer.
More streaming next week - but it was nice to be able to afford to go to a game again - and home by 7pm across The Pennines.
As an aside the pub Red Robin was suprisingly quiet for an away pub. Getting a drink was difficult but it wasn't 20-deep at the bar!
LOve to see Schnierlin's goal - anyone got a link? Must be the best team goal we have scored this season!
How's the car? Did it get you there and back okay?

From what I could hear, the fans were on fire yesterday.

You'll love watching Spiderman's goal again. It has to be one of the goals of the season.

Try: www.footytube.com

saintlysoul says...
12:05pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Strasbourg I was obviously dlighted JWP got on yesterday and pleased he was involved in the second goal that should do his confidnce good. I have to say that I though Spider, Cork and Rodriguez played excellently yesterday and Davis looked good when he came on. I've criticised this quartet in the past but credit where it's due! 'd like to see JWP in the mddle with Cork & Spider I think he would compliment their games and more importantly learn a lot from them both.

Another player I've 'knocked' in the past is Lambert but again yesterday thought he had a great game. Some of his passing as shown on MOTD was top drawer.

It seems that all players have off days and some take time to 'develop' With Lallana back if the defence can sort out some basic defending principles I think the rest of the season looks pretty **** encouraging!!!!!

up saints says...
12:12pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Velleity wrote:
up saints wrote:
you can all blame the defence but when you have a 13mil playmaker who cant hit the target from 6 yards that tells you alot
Cripes!

Have you ever seens Van Persie miss a sitter?

Have you ever seens Rooney miss a sitter?

Have you ever seens Lampard miss a sitter?

Aguero, Vila, etc, etc.

It happens. It happens against us and it happens for us.


You've made it clear you don't like the bloke but that's a daft argument.

If you'd argued that he doesn't seem to be firing on all cylinders recently I might have had some sympathy but one miss?
At least it gives Guly a break!
you can talk strasboug you have been moaning about j rod recently.but he puts in the word effort like guly has done more recently

slugger says...
12:18pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Didn't see the game but from what iv'e heard and read , we were the better team and deserved to win . some on here are impossible to please so why bother trying ?

up saints says...
12:24pm Sun 3 Feb 13

slugger wrote:
Didn't see the game but from what iv'e heard and read , we were the better team and deserved to win . some on here are impossible to please so why bother trying ?
i agree the most important thing yesterday was stopping teams around you getting 3 points.when your playing away from home

Velleity says...
12:26pm Sun 3 Feb 13

My final post on this is the usual - our league position in the Prem taken over the past ten games is.....TENTH. We've been consistently there or thereabouts for a while.

http://weekendfootba
ll.co.uk/analysis/fo
rm.asp?l=1&season=13
&formtype=&gamescoun
t=10

Strasbourg Saint says...
12:46pm Sun 3 Feb 13

saintlysoul wrote:
Strasbourg I was obviously dlighted JWP got on yesterday and pleased he was involved in the second goal that should do his confidnce good. I have to say that I though Spider, Cork and Rodriguez played excellently yesterday and Davis looked good when he came on. I've criticised this quartet in the past but credit where it's due! 'd like to see JWP in the mddle with Cork & Spider I think he would compliment their games and more importantly learn a lot from them both.

Another player I've 'knocked' in the past is Lambert but again yesterday thought he had a great game. Some of his passing as shown on MOTD was top drawer.

It seems that all players have off days and some take time to 'develop' With Lallana back if the defence can sort out some basic defending principles I think the rest of the season looks pretty **** encouraging!!!!!
Totally agree, S.Soul.

Yes, we all have different views on different players. As Up Saints points out, I've been underwhelmed by JayRod ..... and, in general, Davis and Boruc, for that matter. Yesterday, they all put in motm performances. None of them won motm, though, because Rickie, Cork and Spiderman were all even better.

My motm was Spiderman simply because he was already having a great game and running his socks off (is he really French?) prior to sprinting 70 yards for the goal. Until he was shifted to the right in place of Clyne, I thought Cork shaded it.

As for JWP, I read your post yesterday but didn't get the chance to reply. Isn't it great when we see a youngster develop and start to reach his potential? I was delighted with his cameo. What would you say is his best position? In other words, if he started in place of any of yesterday's staring line up (regardless of how well they have been playing), who would it be?

F Fan says...
12:47pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Costa Baz wrote:
Why are people moaning about the high pressing game leaving the defence exposed? We've only conceded 1 goal from open play, in 3 matches, and that wasn't due to the new style of play.
Those complaining about Yoshida are clearly not noticing how often he sweeps up behind the full backs. Yes he can be faulted for the first Wigan goal, but he is a good CB who is getting better each game he plays.
The player I would change, though, is Puncheon. He needs too many touches, too often picks out the wrong pass and is too predictable, always cutting inside.
Someone said we need more goals from the midfielders, but with Puncheon narrowing the play, he is forcing the opposition's defence to become more compact, when he cuts in, reducing the gaps for our players to exploit.
Very astute points

F Fan says...
12:50pm Sun 3 Feb 13

mike saint wrote:
F Fan wrote:
mike saint wrote:
WECOMING4U wrote:
Poor defending can cost you in a second as was proven . Nice football can get you no-where in 90 mins? Just a thought?
Well said.
Why when we,ve got 2 second rate centre halfs didwe not buy any in January transfer window.
All season the defence has cost us points. I think it was a big mistake not to buy any and could lead to us being relagated.
Ah - Mike and Me Saint - must be Pompey - a WUM would know who we bought in the window.
I am most certainly not a pompey fan.
I am just disgusted that we have been
letting in soft goals all season and we have not bought in 2 centre halfs.
After todays game anyone can see that
Mayuka is crap and Hoolveld not much better but what cover have we got for both of them none.
Was going to give you tge benefit of the doubt - but Mayuka a centre half! And the two who played yesterday are probably the cover when the other two are fit.

Mush On The Beach says...
12:54pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Velleity wrote:
I saw the lot yesterday in a pub.

For a very long period in the game it was like looking at a top of the table team against a bottom of the table team. Wigan were pressed every single time they had the ball and simply couldn't put an attack together. We were runnig riot. If the shirt colours had been changed, it could have been Man U versus Villa.

However, the chances we generated didn't turn into goals. We had seven on target yesterday and two went in. We've seen games (leeds last year) where we had one chance on target and one goal. That's the way it goes. Some go in, some don't. A couple of errors from set pieces and the disappointment was complete.

However, the *way* we are creating the chances is by playing some of the most exciting football I've ever seen. For long chunks of the past three games we have been simply breathtaking. Those chunks will get longer as the team coalesces into what MP is looking for; what a time we'll have watching it happen.

And for all the dullards pointing out how other teams are doing, remember the tale of the two guys being tracked by a tiger in the jungle. One sits down to put on his running shoes. The other guy points out that there's no point, he won't be able to outrun a tiger. The guy finishes tying up his shoe, stand up and says "You're right, but I don't have to, I just have to outrun you!"

It's easy to assume that everyone below us will suddenly come upon a run of form and overtake us but it's unlikely; they were worse than us up to now, they'll probably be worse in the future. (Think of the chances that QPR might go on a run and overtake us - I'll show my a***e in Sainsburys if they do).

We'll survive and, most importantly, we'll have fun watching us do it.
Good points well made Vellity. I’m loving what I am seeing in the Saints joy ride, it’s entertaining to watch and if fans keep their faith, bottle and realism of expectation all will be fine. Relegation is not on the horizon this season, I’m convinced.

Villa, QPR and Wigan I fancy, but there is always someone above that gets sucked in and Norwich fans should feel nervous.

up saints says...
12:59pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Strasbourg I was obviously dlighted JWP got on yesterday and pleased he was involved in the second goal that should do his confidnce good. I have to say that I though Spider, Cork and Rodriguez played excellently yesterday and Davis looked good when he came on. I've criticised this quartet in the past but credit where it's due! 'd like to see JWP in the mddle with Cork & Spider I think he would compliment their games and more importantly learn a lot from them both.

Another player I've 'knocked' in the past is Lambert but again yesterday thought he had a great game. Some of his passing as shown on MOTD was top drawer.

It seems that all players have off days and some take time to 'develop' With Lallana back if the defence can sort out some basic defending principles I think the rest of the season looks pretty **** encouraging!!!!!
Totally agree, S.Soul.

Yes, we all have different views on different players. As Up Saints points out, I've been underwhelmed by JayRod ..... and, in general, Davis and Boruc, for that matter. Yesterday, they all put in motm performances. None of them won motm, though, because Rickie, Cork and Spiderman were all even better.

My motm was Spiderman simply because he was already having a great game and running his socks off (is he really French?) prior to sprinting 70 yards for the goal. Until he was shifted to the right in place of Clyne, I thought Cork shaded it.

As for JWP, I read your post yesterday but didn't get the chance to reply. Isn't it great when we see a youngster develop and start to reach his potential? I was delighted with his cameo. What would you say is his best position? In other words, if he started in place of any of yesterday's staring line up (regardless of how well they have been playing), who would it be?
reading above yes all have different opinons we will all agree this team is good enough to say up and 3 points saturday please

saintlysoul says...
1:04pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Strasbourg I was obviously dlighted JWP got on yesterday and pleased he was involved in the second goal that should do his confidnce good. I have to say that I though Spider, Cork and Rodriguez played excellently yesterday and Davis looked good when he came on. I've criticised this quartet in the past but credit where it's due! 'd like to see JWP in the mddle with Cork & Spider I think he would compliment their games and more importantly learn a lot from them both.

Another player I've 'knocked' in the past is Lambert but again yesterday thought he had a great game. Some of his passing as shown on MOTD was top drawer.

It seems that all players have off days and some take time to 'develop' With Lallana back if the defence can sort out some basic defending principles I think the rest of the season looks pretty **** encouraging!!!!!
Totally agree, S.Soul.

Yes, we all have different views on different players. As Up Saints points out, I've been underwhelmed by JayRod ..... and, in general, Davis and Boruc, for that matter. Yesterday, they all put in motm performances. None of them won motm, though, because Rickie, Cork and Spiderman were all even better.

My motm was Spiderman simply because he was already having a great game and running his socks off (is he really French?) prior to sprinting 70 yards for the goal. Until he was shifted to the right in place of Clyne, I thought Cork shaded it.

As for JWP, I read your post yesterday but didn't get the chance to reply. Isn't it great when we see a youngster develop and start to reach his potential? I was delighted with his cameo. What would you say is his best position? In other words, if he started in place of any of yesterday's staring line up (regardless of how well they have been playing), who would it be?
I think that's the point and after yesterday I perhaps for the first time appreciate the problem that the management have in placing JWP in the team. The obvious answer perhaps is Puncheon the player who he replaced yesterday but he's not a winger!!!! Perhaps the bestvheccan hope for is on the bench to be brought on like yesterday!!!!!!

SFCSaint says...
1:05pm Sun 3 Feb 13

were heading down this was the easiest game we had left and we couldnt even hold on for 5 minutes 24 points lost from winning positions tells a story were just not good enough!

sisaydo says...
1:06pm Sun 3 Feb 13

I think some of you are being a bit harsh!
Pochettino has completely changed the way we play football, in a very small amount of time.
I seem to remember at the start of the season quite a few on here were complaining that Adkins did not have a clue and he was purely a Championship manager at best;
Pochettino on the other hand has not had the team for a whole pre season like Adkins, but in my opinion, he has them fighting for every ball and every 50/50 chance.
So on paper against Everton (4th at the time) at home, we battered them and were seriously unlucky not to get 3 points.
Man Utd we lost 2-1 (Top of the league) and praised by Sir Fergie as the BEST team to play at Old Trafford all season and unlucky not to come away with a point.
And then Wigan (who are also fighting for their lives) we completely over ran and made look very ordinary.
My point is, I really do not think we look like going down and can only see us climbing the league, Gaston unfortunately does not fit the new look pressing Saints as it shows when he is swapped for Adam.
Also our defence has been pretty good recently in fact tenfold better than the first 10 or so games. So credit where credit is due I say we will only get better.
COYR’s

miltonarcher says...
1:12pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Defending at set pieces shambolic, is his lack of English preventing Poch getting his ideas / motivation across to the players? The team was on a great run with Nige at the helm, I think the points return from the past 3 games might have been higher if NA was still motivating the squad.

Ross123 says...
1:14pm Sun 3 Feb 13

SFCSaint wrote:
were heading down this was the easiest game we had left and we couldnt even hold on for 5 minutes 24 points lost from winning positions tells a story were just not good enough!
lets hope we dont look back at this at end of season.

if we do end up gong down, we can then blame cortese etc for not bringing in some quality defenders.

our attack as no faults,

just our defense.

i believe foren will start next game.

jos is a liabiity, jury still out on yoshida to.

they go in half hearted at times!

since 1885 says...
1:16pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Mush On The Beach wrote:
Velleity wrote:
I saw the lot yesterday in a pub.

For a very long period in the game it was like looking at a top of the table team against a bottom of the table team. Wigan were pressed every single time they had the ball and simply couldn't put an attack together. We were runnig riot. If the shirt colours had been changed, it could have been Man U versus Villa.

However, the chances we generated didn't turn into goals. We had seven on target yesterday and two went in. We've seen games (leeds last year) where we had one chance on target and one goal. That's the way it goes. Some go in, some don't. A couple of errors from set pieces and the disappointment was complete.

However, the *way* we are creating the chances is by playing some of the most exciting football I've ever seen. For long chunks of the past three games we have been simply breathtaking. Those chunks will get longer as the team coalesces into what MP is looking for; what a time we'll have watching it happen.

And for all the dullards pointing out how other teams are doing, remember the tale of the two guys being tracked by a tiger in the jungle. One sits down to put on his running shoes. The other guy points out that there's no point, he won't be able to outrun a tiger. The guy finishes tying up his shoe, stand up and says "You're right, but I don't have to, I just have to outrun you!"

It's easy to assume that everyone below us will suddenly come upon a run of form and overtake us but it's unlikely; they were worse than us up to now, they'll probably be worse in the future. (Think of the chances that QPR might go on a run and overtake us - I'll show my a***e in Sainsburys if they do).

We'll survive and, most importantly, we'll have fun watching us do it.
Good points well made Vellity. I’m loving what I am seeing in the Saints joy ride, it’s entertaining to watch and if fans keep their faith, bottle and realism of expectation all will be fine. Relegation is not on the horizon this season, I’m convinced.

Villa, QPR and Wigan I fancy, but there is always someone above that gets sucked in and Norwich fans should feel nervous.
It's dumb and dumber! Do you applaud chefs that can cook Velleity? How about mechanics who can fix cars mush. They deserve a at least a smattering of applause! Brilliant!

Strasbourg Saint says...
1:20pm Sun 3 Feb 13

sisaydo wrote:
I think some of you are being a bit harsh!
Pochettino has completely changed the way we play football, in a very small amount of time.
I seem to remember at the start of the season quite a few on here were complaining that Adkins did not have a clue and he was purely a Championship manager at best;
Pochettino on the other hand has not had the team for a whole pre season like Adkins, but in my opinion, he has them fighting for every ball and every 50/50 chance.
So on paper against Everton (4th at the time) at home, we battered them and were seriously unlucky not to get 3 points.
Man Utd we lost 2-1 (Top of the league) and praised by Sir Fergie as the BEST team to play at Old Trafford all season and unlucky not to come away with a point.
And then Wigan (who are also fighting for their lives) we completely over ran and made look very ordinary.
My point is, I really do not think we look like going down and can only see us climbing the league, Gaston unfortunately does not fit the new look pressing Saints as it shows when he is swapped for Adam.
Also our defence has been pretty good recently in fact tenfold better than the first 10 or so games. So credit where credit is due I say we will only get better.
COYR’s
Exactly, but don't tell SFCSaint, you'll only make him feel a wee bit happy; and that could seriously ruin his day.

SFCSaint says...
1:37pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
sisaydo wrote:
I think some of you are being a bit harsh!
Pochettino has completely changed the way we play football, in a very small amount of time.
I seem to remember at the start of the season quite a few on here were complaining that Adkins did not have a clue and he was purely a Championship manager at best;
Pochettino on the other hand has not had the team for a whole pre season like Adkins, but in my opinion, he has them fighting for every ball and every 50/50 chance.
So on paper against Everton (4th at the time) at home, we battered them and were seriously unlucky not to get 3 points.
Man Utd we lost 2-1 (Top of the league) and praised by Sir Fergie as the BEST team to play at Old Trafford all season and unlucky not to come away with a point.
And then Wigan (who are also fighting for their lives) we completely over ran and made look very ordinary.
My point is, I really do not think we look like going down and can only see us climbing the league, Gaston unfortunately does not fit the new look pressing Saints as it shows when he is swapped for Adam.
Also our defence has been pretty good recently in fact tenfold better than the first 10 or so games. So credit where credit is due I say we will only get better.
COYR’s
Exactly, but don't tell SFCSaint, you'll only make him feel a wee bit happy; and that could seriously ruin his day.
what you on about its a fact? you dont let that many points go during a season we had the same problem last time we were in this league and what happened? we got relegated!

SFCSaint says...
1:39pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Plus it doesnt matter what people say its only results that matter and were not going to win enough games given our defending were likely to be in the bottom 3 after the next 2 games then you might see what i mean

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
1:47pm Sun 3 Feb 13

ONZE

Velleity says...
1:48pm Sun 3 Feb 13

since 1885 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
Velleity wrote:
I saw the lot yesterday in a pub.

For a very long period in the game it was like looking at a top of the table team against a bottom of the table team. Wigan were pressed every single time they had the ball and simply couldn't put an attack together. We were runnig riot. If the shirt colours had been changed, it could have been Man U versus Villa.

However, the chances we generated didn't turn into goals. We had seven on target yesterday and two went in. We've seen games (leeds last year) where we had one chance on target and one goal. That's the way it goes. Some go in, some don't. A couple of errors from set pieces and the disappointment was complete.

However, the *way* we are creating the chances is by playing some of the most exciting football I've ever seen. For long chunks of the past three games we have been simply breathtaking. Those chunks will get longer as the team coalesces into what MP is looking for; what a time we'll have watching it happen.

And for all the dullards pointing out how other teams are doing, remember the tale of the two guys being tracked by a tiger in the jungle. One sits down to put on his running shoes. The other guy points out that there's no point, he won't be able to outrun a tiger. The guy finishes tying up his shoe, stand up and says "You're right, but I don't have to, I just have to outrun you!"

It's easy to assume that everyone below us will suddenly come upon a run of form and overtake us but it's unlikely; they were worse than us up to now, they'll probably be worse in the future. (Think of the chances that QPR might go on a run and overtake us - I'll show my a***e in Sainsburys if they do).

We'll survive and, most importantly, we'll have fun watching us do it.
Good points well made Vellity. I’m loving what I am seeing in the Saints joy ride, it’s entertaining to watch and if fans keep their faith, bottle and realism of expectation all will be fine. Relegation is not on the horizon this season, I’m convinced.

Villa, QPR and Wigan I fancy, but there is always someone above that gets sucked in and Norwich fans should feel nervous.
It's dumb and dumber! Do you applaud chefs that can cook Velleity? How about mechanics who can fix cars mush. They deserve a at least a smattering of applause! Brilliant!
LLLLLLLDDDLLLLLLL

randre says...
1:50pm Sun 3 Feb 13

skiptonsaint wrote:
My other concern sat on the train after watching today is And this might not be agreed with

We have possibly wasted money on

Gaston
Mayuka
Jrod (although maybe not. He might get 10 this season and does try)
Gazza ?
Lee slighlty before ?

We bought well with
Clyne

And have had what looks like sone luck with free players
Shaw
Borouc

And jury is out on
Davis
Yoshida
But poss good buys.

We need forren to be a hit
and people like jwp to come through

And punchoen looks less interested last few games. Contract issues ?

If the teams below us buy well
Ie newcastles last 2 results

We could have probs

Not sure we can afford to be this hit and miss in the transfer market

Just a thought
Could be one of the reasons the new manager was brought in?? Something which maybe addresses in the next window when he has had chance to properly assess things.

Just a thought too!

Mush On The Beach says...
1:52pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
sisaydo wrote:
I think some of you are being a bit harsh!
Pochettino has completely changed the way we play football, in a very small amount of time.
I seem to remember at the start of the season quite a few on here were complaining that Adkins did not have a clue and he was purely a Championship manager at best;
Pochettino on the other hand has not had the team for a whole pre season like Adkins, but in my opinion, he has them fighting for every ball and every 50/50 chance.
So on paper against Everton (4th at the time) at home, we battered them and were seriously unlucky not to get 3 points.
Man Utd we lost 2-1 (Top of the league) and praised by Sir Fergie as the BEST team to play at Old Trafford all season and unlucky not to come away with a point.
And then Wigan (who are also fighting for their lives) we completely over ran and made look very ordinary.
My point is, I really do not think we look like going down and can only see us climbing the league, Gaston unfortunately does not fit the new look pressing Saints as it shows when he is swapped for Adam.
Also our defence has been pretty good recently in fact tenfold better than the first 10 or so games. So credit where credit is due I say we will only get better.
COYR’s
Exactly, but don't tell SFCSaint, you'll only make him feel a wee bit happy; and that could seriously ruin his day.
Gaston appeared on a section of Premier League world on tv this week that they pump out around the world. He came across as a polite unassuming lad that has fire in his belly that wants to succeed and enjoy his time with Saints. Give him time, he has the class.

Velleity says...
1:52pm Sun 3 Feb 13

SFCSaint wrote:
Plus it doesnt matter what people say its only results that matter and were not going to win enough games given our defending were likely to be in the bottom 3 after the next 2 games then you might see what i mean
I bet £25 to the charity of your choice that that's not going to happen. If I lose, I'll bring proof of payment of the bet to the Joshua Tree after the QPR game. Ditto if you lose.

You're very confident in your prediction. Are you willing to take it on?

Mush On The Beach says...
1:54pm Sun 3 Feb 13

YAWN 1885 my arrrrrse. Actually 1898–2013 what I applaud is SFC. I’ll also share with you what I find funny and that is how sperrrrm won a race and created you, they must look back and think why did we bother, now that is a better definition of OBVIOUS? Grow up little boy.

buster gutt says...
1:55pm Sun 3 Feb 13

there is no need to panic as some of you are.Manager has only been in charge three matches and has't he done well.
If this is how good they are after three matches just think how good they will soon become.Keep supporting the team COYR.

randre says...
1:55pm Sun 3 Feb 13

mike saint wrote:
WECOMING4U wrote:
Poor defending can cost you in a second as was proven . Nice football can get you no-where in 90 mins? Just a thought?
Well said.
Why when we,ve got 2 second rate centre halfs didwe not buy any in January transfer window.
All season the defence has cost us points. I think it was a big mistake not to buy any and could lead to us being relagated.
We did buy a centre back!! Do keep up ;0)

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
1:56pm Sun 3 Feb 13

slugger wrote:
SFCOLDBOY wrote:
Nice to have bumped into Seedhouse and Bad Bill yesterday.

Bill, did you get that pie?

Not too sure they looked as good as they are reputed to be.
Do you mean the pies , or Seed and Bill ?
Ignore Slugger, he can be very silly at times.

Good to meet you and Insane too. What a great bar, stadium and people. Goes to show what can be done when the owner is a football man.

Bill and Seed the Small went meat and potato and weren't overly impressed but my chunky steak was a top pie.

Nearly home. Great weekend.

SFCSaint says...
2:01pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Velleity wrote:
SFCSaint wrote:
Plus it doesnt matter what people say its only results that matter and were not going to win enough games given our defending were likely to be in the bottom 3 after the next 2 games then you might see what i mean
I bet £25 to the charity of your choice that that's not going to happen. If I lose, I'll bring proof of payment of the bet to the Joshua Tree after the QPR game. Ditto if you lose.

You're very confident in your prediction. Are you willing to take it on?
of course we will lose our next 2 games!

SFCSaint says...
2:02pm Sun 3 Feb 13

buster gutt wrote:
there is no need to panic as some of you are.Manager has only been in charge three matches and has't he done well.
If this is how good they are after three matches just think how good they will soon become.Keep supporting the team COYR.
well no he hasnt because he hasnt won a game? and had adkins been manager we would have won yesterday because he doesnt play the stupid zonal marking system that has cost us 3 goals in 2 games so i dont know what you class as doing well

randre says...
2:03pm Sun 3 Feb 13

J7junctionseven wrote:
rocketone wrote:
I think some of these miserable b4st4rds were watching a different game!
We were unlucky.
We should have scored several times and didn't.
Nobody said buy a striker, so we were all wrong!
The team we have is fighting on our behalf and I am proud of the performance today.
Doomngloomerchants..


......go boil your heads!
Amen to that!
That indeed.

Strasbourg Saint says...
2:03pm Sun 3 Feb 13

SFCSaint wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
sisaydo wrote:
I think some of you are being a bit harsh!
Pochettino has completely changed the way we play football, in a very small amount of time.
I seem to remember at the start of the season quite a few on here were complaining that Adkins did not have a clue and he was purely a Championship manager at best;
Pochettino on the other hand has not had the team for a whole pre season like Adkins, but in my opinion, he has them fighting for every ball and every 50/50 chance.
So on paper against Everton (4th at the time) at home, we battered them and were seriously unlucky not to get 3 points.
Man Utd we lost 2-1 (Top of the league) and praised by Sir Fergie as the BEST team to play at Old Trafford all season and unlucky not to come away with a point.
And then Wigan (who are also fighting for their lives) we completely over ran and made look very ordinary.
My point is, I really do not think we look like going down and can only see us climbing the league, Gaston unfortunately does not fit the new look pressing Saints as it shows when he is swapped for Adam.
Also our defence has been pretty good recently in fact tenfold better than the first 10 or so games. So credit where credit is due I say we will only get better.
COYR’s
Exactly, but don't tell SFCSaint, you'll only make him feel a wee bit happy; and that could seriously ruin his day.
what you on about its a fact? you dont let that many points go during a season we had the same problem last time we were in this league and what happened? we got relegated!
But, as Velleity pointed out earlier, on current form over the past 10 games, we're actually 10th. So, if that dreadful form persists, we'll just have to put up with another season dropping points against some of the top teams in Europe in arguably the toughest league in Europe.

It's all about perspective. I guess I've got my head buried in the sand and can't see the panic ..... just as I did when I refused to moan in League 1 and then the Championship every time we failed to win a game we should have won. How I should have listened to all those miserable old bugg€rs who said we wouldn't go up, eh?

Anyway, take it as me being a bit tongue in cheek. Come on, we really are okay this year, just NOT as okay as, say, Swansea or Stoke. Then, our team is new to all this Premiership stuff. Now that we're building a competent squad and moving in the right direction, even with the frustrating draws, we're still looking okay AND we're not in the bottom 3 right now.

I'd be more worried if we had this many points by scraping late goals like Reading. That sort of thing doesn't go on all season long. Alas for them, I think they'll soon start dropping points and heading downwards. However, as with my thoughts on Saints, I could be wrong.

randre says...
2:15pm Sun 3 Feb 13

mike saint wrote:
F Fan wrote:
mike saint wrote:
WECOMING4U wrote:
Poor defending can cost you in a second as was proven . Nice football can get you no-where in 90 mins? Just a thought?
Well said.
Why when we,ve got 2 second rate centre halfs didwe not buy any in January transfer window.
All season the defence has cost us points. I think it was a big mistake not to buy any and could lead to us being relagated.
Ah - Mike and Me Saint - must be Pompey - a WUM would know who we bought in the window.
I am most certainly not a pompey fan.
I am just disgusted that we have been
letting in soft goals all season and we have not bought in 2 centre halfs.
After todays game anyone can see that
Mayuka is crap and Hoolveld not much better but what cover have we got for both of them none.
Mayuka didn't play!!!

mack chinnon says...
2:19pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
SFCSaint wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
sisaydo wrote:
I think some of you are being a bit harsh!
Pochettino has completely changed the way we play football, in a very small amount of time.
I seem to remember at the start of the season quite a few on here were complaining that Adkins did not have a clue and he was purely a Championship manager at best;
Pochettino on the other hand has not had the team for a whole pre season like Adkins, but in my opinion, he has them fighting for every ball and every 50/50 chance.
So on paper against Everton (4th at the time) at home, we battered them and were seriously unlucky not to get 3 points.
Man Utd we lost 2-1 (Top of the league) and praised by Sir Fergie as the BEST team to play at Old Trafford all season and unlucky not to come away with a point.
And then Wigan (who are also fighting for their lives) we completely over ran and made look very ordinary.
My point is, I really do not think we look like going down and can only see us climbing the league, Gaston unfortunately does not fit the new look pressing Saints as it shows when he is swapped for Adam.
Also our defence has been pretty good recently in fact tenfold better than the first 10 or so games. So credit where credit is due I say we will only get better.
COYR’s
Exactly, but don't tell SFCSaint, you'll only make him feel a wee bit happy; and that could seriously ruin his day.
what you on about its a fact? you dont let that many points go during a season we had the same problem last time we were in this league and what happened? we got relegated!
But, as Velleity pointed out earlier, on current form over the past 10 games, we're actually 10th. So, if that dreadful form persists, we'll just have to put up with another season dropping points against some of the top teams in Europe in arguably the toughest league in Europe.

It's all about perspective. I guess I've got my head buried in the sand and can't see the panic ..... just as I did when I refused to moan in League 1 and then the Championship every time we failed to win a game we should have won. How I should have listened to all those miserable old bugg€rs who said we wouldn't go up, eh?

Anyway, take it as me being a bit tongue in cheek. Come on, we really are okay this year, just NOT as okay as, say, Swansea or Stoke. Then, our team is new to all this Premiership stuff. Now that we're building a competent squad and moving in the right direction, even with the frustrating draws, we're still looking okay AND we're not in the bottom 3 right now.

I'd be more worried if we had this many points by scraping late goals like Reading. That sort of thing doesn't go on all season long. Alas for them, I think they'll soon start dropping points and heading downwards. However, as with my thoughts on Saints, I could be wrong.
Anybody would think we were Derby after reading this thread.
Onwards and upwards you mighty Saints.
Come on Scunny.

Velleity says...
2:19pm Sun 3 Feb 13

SFCSaint wrote:
Velleity wrote:
SFCSaint wrote:
Plus it doesnt matter what people say its only results that matter and were not going to win enough games given our defending were likely to be in the bottom 3 after the next 2 games then you might see what i mean
I bet £25 to the charity of your choice that that's not going to happen. If I lose, I'll bring proof of payment of the bet to the Joshua Tree after the QPR game. Ditto if you lose.

You're very confident in your prediction. Are you willing to take it on?
of course we will lose our next 2 games!
OK, so are we agreed?

If we're in the bottom three on the evening of Sunday 24th February (i.e. after the Newcastle game), I'll pay £25 to the charity of your choice, proof to be provided at the Joshua Tree after the QPR game (winner to buy the loser a pint). If we're not, you pay £25 to Age UK and bring proof instead.

If either of us loses and fails to pay up, the other is allowed to take the p*ss forever and a day.

Costa Baz says...
2:26pm Sun 3 Feb 13

miltonarcher wrote:
Defending at set pieces shambolic, is his lack of English preventing Poch getting his ideas / motivation across to the players? The team was on a great run with Nige at the helm, I think the points return from the past 3 games might have been higher if NA was still motivating the squad.
Whether or not the points would have been higher, with NA still at the helm, we will never know.

Personally, having watched the high energy, high pressing game, we have implemented since the arrival of MP, I have never felt more confident of our survival.

Strasbourg Saint says...
2:37pm Sun 3 Feb 13

mack chinnon wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
SFCSaint wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
sisaydo wrote:
I think some of you are being a bit harsh!
Pochettino has completely changed the way we play football, in a very small amount of time.
I seem to remember at the start of the season quite a few on here were complaining that Adkins did not have a clue and he was purely a Championship manager at best;
Pochettino on the other hand has not had the team for a whole pre season like Adkins, but in my opinion, he has them fighting for every ball and every 50/50 chance.
So on paper against Everton (4th at the time) at home, we battered them and were seriously unlucky not to get 3 points.
Man Utd we lost 2-1 (Top of the league) and praised by Sir Fergie as the BEST team to play at Old Trafford all season and unlucky not to come away with a point.
And then Wigan (who are also fighting for their lives) we completely over ran and made look very ordinary.
My point is, I really do not think we look like going down and can only see us climbing the league, Gaston unfortunately does not fit the new look pressing Saints as it shows when he is swapped for Adam.
Also our defence has been pretty good recently in fact tenfold better than the first 10 or so games. So credit where credit is due I say we will only get better.
COYR’s
Exactly, but don't tell SFCSaint, you'll only make him feel a wee bit happy; and that could seriously ruin his day.
what you on about its a fact? you dont let that many points go during a season we had the same problem last time we were in this league and what happened? we got relegated!
But, as Velleity pointed out earlier, on current form over the past 10 games, we're actually 10th. So, if that dreadful form persists, we'll just have to put up with another season dropping points against some of the top teams in Europe in arguably the toughest league in Europe.

It's all about perspective. I guess I've got my head buried in the sand and can't see the panic ..... just as I did when I refused to moan in League 1 and then the Championship every time we failed to win a game we should have won. How I should have listened to all those miserable old bugg€rs who said we wouldn't go up, eh?

Anyway, take it as me being a bit tongue in cheek. Come on, we really are okay this year, just NOT as okay as, say, Swansea or Stoke. Then, our team is new to all this Premiership stuff. Now that we're building a competent squad and moving in the right direction, even with the frustrating draws, we're still looking okay AND we're not in the bottom 3 right now.

I'd be more worried if we had this many points by scraping late goals like Reading. That sort of thing doesn't go on all season long. Alas for them, I think they'll soon start dropping points and heading downwards. However, as with my thoughts on Saints, I could be wrong.
Anybody would think we were Derby after reading this thread.
Onwards and upwards you mighty Saints.
Come on Scunny.
That one's lost on me, Mack. Still, come on Scunny, anyway.

SAINTStevie61163 says...
2:49pm Sun 3 Feb 13

SFCSaint wrote:
Plus it doesnt matter what people say its only results that matter and were not going to win enough games given our defending were likely to be in the bottom 3 after the next 2 games then you might see what i mean
I think that we may well be in the bottom 3 after the next 2 games but that does not mean that we are definitely going down!!!
I have tried to be as objective as possible with my predictions below.

H man city 0 points
A Frenchcastle 0 points
H QPR 3 points
A Norwich 1 point
H Liverpool 1 points
H Chelsea 0 points
A Reading 3 points
H West Ham 3 points
A Swansea 0 points
H West Brom 3 points
A Spurs 0 points
A Sunderland 1 point
H Stoke 3 points

total of 42 points in my opinion this will easily be enough to keep us up

St.Yorkie says...
2:52pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
St.Yorkie wrote: It was a bitter sweet experience yesterday. Bitter the late equlaiser - sweet the second goal. At times the fans were quiet - but overall I thought it was an OK awayday. Still amazed at the second goal - and I thought Schneiderlin was just a midfield player. Box to box midfielder and obviously one of the fittest players in the team. Full marks to JWP and JRod for making the break down the left - great pace and vision. the ball into Morgan was right in his stride. No wonder they celebrated. Frustrated with Gaston & Puncheon yesterday. Overall though I am confident there are at least 3-times worse than us. Parked in deepest residential Wigan. Some bloke came out of his house with kids and puppy..."You were lucky - that's the worst Wigan have played all season" apparently he streamed the game! I repsonded with - "Perhaps we didn't let you play" - he had no answer. More streaming next week - but it was nice to be able to afford to go to a game again - and home by 7pm across The Pennines. As an aside the pub Red Robin was suprisingly quiet for an away pub. Getting a drink was difficult but it wasn't 20-deep at the bar! LOve to see Schnierlin's goal - anyone got a link? Must be the best team goal we have scored this season!
How's the car? Did it get you there and back okay? From what I could hear, the fans were on fire yesterday. You'll love watching Spiderman's goal again. It has to be one of the goals of the season. Try: www.footytube.com
Thanks for concern Kev - it was my daughter's car and a write-off me thinks! Despite the recovery vehicle reversing into my car - made legal for the trip across to Wigan.
Not sure about Newcastle yet - got to dig out the theatre glasses - and 1.30 on a Sunday puts me off a bit - don't even know about ticket prices!
Depends on a few things but will know closer to day...could be a massacre either way depending which team turns up!
Personally I would rather Pochettino got his first win next week against the current Champions - but anything is a bonus.
We know there are no easy games - and the pressure is on City to get a result as United are running away with it at the moment.
Think we might see Rickie notch up 100 next week - and Ramirez score coming off the bench. So will it be 2-0 to Saints or 3-2 to City?

up saints says...
3:00pm Sun 3 Feb 13

i for one think we will get points against man city and newcastle not looking passed that

randre says...
3:10pm Sun 3 Feb 13

MGRA wrote:
Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....
If wigans game plan is to let other teams dominate and just scrape a draw then they are in trouble.

I prefer our game plan thanks very much. I also prefer our high pressing game, as shearer said after the united game "saints fans are going to have some fun with these tactics".

I do think Wigan would have liked three points and to have played us off the park, as it happens they didn't and in the light of day it was a better point for saints than it was for Wigan.

saintkenny says...
3:10pm Sun 3 Feb 13

here is a table for the bottom 6 based on the last 15 games .with 13 to go ,might indicate end of season table
saints pld 15 20 pts
reading pld 15 18 pts
qpr pld 15 13 pts
newcastle pld 15 12 pts
aston villa pld 15 12 pts
wigan pld 15 10 pts
based on table after 10 games
.the likely outcome in may

Strasbourg Saint says...
3:15pm Sun 3 Feb 13

St.Yorkie wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
St.Yorkie wrote: It was a bitter sweet experience yesterday. Bitter the late equlaiser - sweet the second goal. At times the fans were quiet - but overall I thought it was an OK awayday. Still amazed at the second goal - and I thought Schneiderlin was just a midfield player. Box to box midfielder and obviously one of the fittest players in the team. Full marks to JWP and JRod for making the break down the left - great pace and vision. the ball into Morgan was right in his stride. No wonder they celebrated. Frustrated with Gaston & Puncheon yesterday. Overall though I am confident there are at least 3-times worse than us. Parked in deepest residential Wigan. Some bloke came out of his house with kids and puppy..."You were lucky - that's the worst Wigan have played all season" apparently he streamed the game! I repsonded with - "Perhaps we didn't let you play" - he had no answer. More streaming next week - but it was nice to be able to afford to go to a game again - and home by 7pm across The Pennines. As an aside the pub Red Robin was suprisingly quiet for an away pub. Getting a drink was difficult but it wasn't 20-deep at the bar! LOve to see Schnierlin's goal - anyone got a link? Must be the best team goal we have scored this season!
How's the car? Did it get you there and back okay? From what I could hear, the fans were on fire yesterday. You'll love watching Spiderman's goal again. It has to be one of the goals of the season. Try: www.footytube.com
Thanks for concern Kev - it was my daughter's car and a write-off me thinks! Despite the recovery vehicle reversing into my car - made legal for the trip across to Wigan.
Not sure about Newcastle yet - got to dig out the theatre glasses - and 1.30 on a Sunday puts me off a bit - don't even know about ticket prices!
Depends on a few things but will know closer to day...could be a massacre either way depending which team turns up!
Personally I would rather Pochettino got his first win next week against the current Champions - but anything is a bonus.
We know there are no easy games - and the pressure is on City to get a result as United are running away with it at the moment.
Think we might see Rickie notch up 100 next week - and Ramirez score coming off the bench. So will it be 2-0 to Saints or 3-2 to City?
Ta for the update, Bob. Hope you decide on Newcastle, but as you say, lunchtime on a sunday isn't great, is it.

The thing about there being no easy games is spot on. So, as you say, it could easily be 2-0 next week because there are no easy games for Man City and I bet they're not looking forward to next week.

Let's hope they pick up a few minor knocks today.

saintkenny says...
3:18pm Sun 3 Feb 13

randre wrote:
MGRA wrote:
Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....
If wigans game plan is to let other teams dominate and just scrape a draw then they are in trouble.

I prefer our game plan thanks very much. I also prefer our high pressing game, as shearer said after the united game "saints fans are going to have some fun with these tactics".

I do think Wigan would have liked three points and to have played us off the park, as it happens they didn't and in the light of day it was a better point for saints than it was for Wigan.
but it has not help wigan .they have lost 7 at home .master tacticion that is not a good stat .look at the table .it was a worse result for them /we still have the points difference a better goal difference worth a point

up saints says...
3:19pm Sun 3 Feb 13

does anyone know any forren information.is he injured or not match fit.

Baddesley Bill says...
3:39pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
slugger wrote:
SFCOLDBOY wrote:
Nice to have bumped into Seedhouse and Bad Bill yesterday.

Bill, did you get that pie?

Not too sure they looked as good as they are reputed to be.
Do you mean the pies , or Seed and Bill ?
Ignore Slugger, he can be very silly at times.

Good to meet you and Insane too. What a great bar, stadium and people. Goes to show what can be done when the owner is a football man.

Bill and Seed the Small went meat and potato and weren't overly impressed but my chunky steak was a top pie.

Nearly home. Great weekend.
I didn't taste mine...just downed it in one! :O)

st bevois says...
3:42pm Sun 3 Feb 13

SFCSaint wrote:
buster gutt wrote:
there is no need to panic as some of you are.Manager has only been in charge three matches and has't he done well.
If this is how good they are after three matches just think how good they will soon become.Keep supporting the team COYR.
well no he hasnt because he hasnt won a game? and had adkins been manager we would have won yesterday because he doesnt play the stupid zonal marking system that has cost us 3 goals in 2 games so i dont know what you class as doing well
I'm not so sure. Against Man U when we were 2-1 up, NA took off the entire front line, we completely lost our shape, never hardly got into their half for the last 15 mins, Man U dominated and turned it around with both of the last 2 goals coming from set pieces should I not add. Against Everton he started with the diamond formation and after a bright start, Everton sussed the fullbacks, exposed them and tore us apart before half time. Against Wigan at home he dropped Punch and again deployed no natural wide players and we completely failed to breakdown the 2 banks of 4. Nil points! Yes we have moved on from the start of the season and now that we have had two managers people will make comparisons, but the change is done even though the full out from the surprise still lingers. But is it not already obvious that the new manager can read a game and so far his subs and changes have been spot on? And more importantly, he seems to be able to galvanise the team in mid flow! Before Xmas most people on here were thinking that we were hardly likely to win a point in this period and that our goal difference would suffer. The reason that so many are disappointed naturally is that results haven't matched the performances so far. As for the transfer window - most of it was over-hyped, over-valued average/rubbish. As someone else posted recently - the best new signing just may be the new manager. Although to be fair, AP seems to have identified some more reasonably priced bargains for the Toon. We could sit here all day and list the errors made by individuals this season - in all positions too. So could most of the other teams. Some of our players get it worse than others as we all know. Gaston gets slagged for yesterday and it was a bad miss after a fantastic run off the ball, but not AL for his misses? Quality chances went begging in both the last two games. Frustrating but doesn't knock my belief in where we are going. Next week City won't come looking for us, WE WILL BE LOOKING FOR THEM!! And they don't like it when you get in their faces!!!! COYR!!

saintkenny says...
4:16pm Sun 3 Feb 13

up saints wrote:
does anyone know any forren information.is he injured or not match fit.
hes not match fit .beause norway has a midseason break .a couple of reserve games he should be fine .and will soon be seen in a saints shirt ,but this is the reason

poshdave says...
4:21pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Like everyone else it was very frustrating yesterday...........
... however for the first time I can remember I am looking at the games we got to come and don't have an ounce of nerves about who we play!!!!!!!!!......, we are starting to look like we can realistic out play anyone,.............
....... I was gutted about N'A's sacking, but it's starting to look good,...............
funny old game footie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!

SAINTStevie61163 says...
4:28pm Sun 3 Feb 13

poshdave wrote:
Like everyone else it was very frustrating yesterday...........

... however for the first time I can remember I am looking at the games we got to come and don't have an ounce of nerves about who we play!!!!!!!!!......, we are starting to look like we can realistic out play anyone,.............

....... I was gutted about N'A's sacking, but it's starting to look good,...............

funny old game footie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!
This

saintshorse101 says...
4:31pm Sun 3 Feb 13

SFCSaint wrote:
Velleity wrote:
SFCSaint wrote: Plus it doesnt matter what people say its only results that matter and were not going to win enough games given our defending were likely to be in the bottom 3 after the next 2 games then you might see what i mean
I bet £25 to the charity of your choice that that's not going to happen. If I lose, I'll bring proof of payment of the bet to the Joshua Tree after the QPR game. Ditto if you lose. You're very confident in your prediction. Are you willing to take it on?
of course we will lose our next 2 games!
how is that time machine going for you?

saintshorse101 says...
4:35pm Sun 3 Feb 13

SFCSaint wrote:
buster gutt wrote: there is no need to panic as some of you are.Manager has only been in charge three matches and has't he done well. If this is how good they are after three matches just think how good they will soon become.Keep supporting the team COYR.
well no he hasnt because he hasnt won a game? and had adkins been manager we would have won yesterday because he doesnt play the stupid zonal marking system that has cost us 3 goals in 2 games so i dont know what you class as doing well
and how is that parallel universe machine going for you?

you really shouldnt give away the fact that you have built and tested these machines, the goverment is watching!

that can be the only way you know that we will lose our next two games and that if adkins was still manager we would have won yesterday.

Velleity says...
4:50pm Sun 3 Feb 13

saintshorse101 wrote:
SFCSaint wrote:
Velleity wrote:
SFCSaint wrote: Plus it doesnt matter what people say its only results that matter and were not going to win enough games given our defending were likely to be in the bottom 3 after the next 2 games then you might see what i mean
I bet £25 to the charity of your choice that that's not going to happen. If I lose, I'll bring proof of payment of the bet to the Joshua Tree after the QPR game. Ditto if you lose. You're very confident in your prediction. Are you willing to take it on?
of course we will lose our next 2 games!
how is that time machine going for you?
I note he disappeared when I tried to firm up the details of our £25 charity bet.

Cluck, cluck, cluck...

saintshorse101 says...
5:02pm Sun 3 Feb 13

i really think that some of the posters on here want us to get relegated this season, poopey ones apart, just so that the can the say "told you so!" the amount of times i have read `we are going down, we would stay up with adkins, nc has made a big mistake, this that and those players are only champ quality,we are dropping too many points from winning positions` and of course the best of all `mark my words` its weird that some think like that, and worse that for supporting your team you get called a `happy clapper`.
i am not going to give the whole look where we were 3 years ago speach again, because they dont care ( i dont think some suported saints back then anyway).
the problem is that they are the sort of person that is `never wrong` and despite improved points gains against teams that beat us earlier in the season they are still not happy.
just have a look at all the `experts` opinions of us after the last three games and apart from merson not one thinks we are going down, and merson wants us relegated because adkins was sacked! chris perry was on the radio this morning talking about spuds and they asked him if saints would go down and straight away he replied "absolutely not, too much class, skill and quality". i know pundits get it wrong but i would rather take their opinions over some of the negatives we get on here.
anyone else noticed how the negs post more during a game then fade away when the fans who went to the game start posting the facts about the game. i love the fact we all have different points of view by the way i just fget fed up with the same posters saying the same thing week in week out when all they do is post carp.
rant over
a point next week would be ok but hope for three and think if we take the game to mancity from the start we could get a great result.

Baddesley Bill says...
5:03pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Whilst making the arduous journey back from Wigan, I got to do some thinking....

...presumably, there will be anything up to 10,000 skunts with nothing to do on a Saturday from May onwards...

...any worthwhile suggestions as to what they can do with themselves anyone?

Mush On The Beach says...
5:04pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Watching the Citeh vs Liverpool game. Half time report, Citeh had one chance and scored through Dzeko. Liverpool have dominated and deservedly equalised through Sturridge.

A few observations:
I think the Liverpool project of possession football under Brendon Rogers looks less developed than ours at the moment but they are still running rings around their opponents.
The Toure bros will miss the Saints game due to their progress in the African Nations Cup, as will Kompany who will not be fit in time. Balotelli has sadly left for Italy so no fireworks at St Marys.

Citeh look disjointed and if we play our high pressing intensity, I think we will hand the title to Manure.

st1halo says...
5:05pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Judging by some of the comments I went back and checked it was the Echo and not the News site!!!

Regardless of individual errors and not walking away with all three points, no-one can fail to be impressed by the way we are dominating teams irrespective of where they are in the league table, home or away, or what form they are in.
MoPo reads the game in real time and acts accordingly, he has galvanised the team into a force in three weeks! I'm quite confident he will not ask the players where they think they are going wrong like Nigel. He will analyse it and tell them exactly. His ability and passion is there to be seen.

If we keep b1tchslappin' teams like this the points will come. IMO we are in the embryonic stage of becoming the best we have ever been. Great times await.

STID and proud!

Mush On The Beach says...
5:14pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Whilst making the arduous journey back from Wigan, I got to do some thinking....

...presumably, there will be anything up to 10,000 skunts with nothing to do on a Saturday from May onwards...

...any worthwhile suggestions as to what they can do with themselves anyone?
Clean up the turrrds on Southsea Common.

Compete in a new reality tv program .... I’m a skunt get me out of here (more details to follow)

Mush On The Beach says...
5:32pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Mush On The Beach wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Whilst making the arduous journey back from Wigan, I got to do some thinking....

...presumably, there will be anything up to 10,000 skunts with nothing to do on a Saturday from May onwards...

...any worthwhile suggestions as to what they can do with themselves anyone?
Clean up the turrrds on Southsea Common.

Compete in a new reality tv program .... I’m a skunt get me out of here (more details to follow)
My Big Fat Skunty Wedding.
All the interbreds race mobility scooters up Balram Chainrai / Farton Way (Honk Honk)
We love you Nana skunt xxx.

slugger says...
5:45pm Sun 3 Feb 13

st1halo wrote:
Judging by some of the comments I went back and checked it was the Echo and not the News site!!!

Regardless of individual errors and not walking away with all three points, no-one can fail to be impressed by the way we are dominating teams irrespective of where they are in the league table, home or away, or what form they are in.
MoPo reads the game in real time and acts accordingly, he has galvanised the team into a force in three weeks! I'm quite confident he will not ask the players where they think they are going wrong like Nigel. He will analyse it and tell them exactly. His ability and passion is there to be seen.

If we keep b1tchslappin' teams like this the points will come. IMO we are in the embryonic stage of becoming the best we have ever been. Great times await.

STID and proud!
Exactly ! ..... COYR !!!!!!

circa 66 saint says...
5:46pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Whilst making the arduous journey back from Wigan, I got to do some thinking....

...presumably, there will be anything up to 10,000 skunts with nothing to do on a Saturday from May onwards...

...any worthwhile suggestions as to what they can do with themselves anyone?
already been discussed, the local W.I. are willing to take them in and teach them things like needlework and basket weaving, problem is the average skunt is very aggressive and would need to be neutered before they will enrole them,
hence the bricks and gas.
now this has 2 advantages it takes away the aggressive nature of the average skunt and stops them breeding so win win all round

Velleity says...
5:48pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Whilst making the arduous journey back from Wigan, I got to do some thinking....

...presumably, there will be anything up to 10,000 skunts with nothing to do on a Saturday from May onwards...

...any worthwhile suggestions as to what they can do with themselves anyone?
They could come and support their local professional league football team; Saints.

They might actually realise that we have a decent team, an excellent setup and that we have a future having escaped from the hands of shysters in a way they seem to have missed.

It'd be great to hear their voices and to get our stadium so full it needs the expansion we saw on the plans at the turn of the season.

I suspect quite a few will do it on the quiet anyway. A few will never come, of course, and will look to the past rather than the future.

Bill, you know enough of my views on football rivalry to know that, yes, I'm being serious...and we should welcome them.

Velleity says...
5:50pm Sun 3 Feb 13

PS. Sorry if that all sounds a bit gay.

bigfella777 says...
5:52pm Sun 3 Feb 13

saintkenny wrote:
up saints wrote:
does anyone know any forren information.is he injured or not match fit.
hes not match fit .beause norway has a midseason break .a couple of reserve games he should be fine .and will soon be seen in a saints shirt ,but this is the reason
How does someone get match fit without playing a match?
And if they desperately needed a defender why did they get someone who is not match fit?
Redknapp signed Samba from Russia 12.5 mill (ridiculous) he had been on a break but went straight into yesterdays game and they got a 0-0 draw.
Yoshida is weak but I do forgive Shaw for giving them the equaliser as he was superb yesterday.
Boruc save was superb, I think he will beat Yoshy up soon.

St.Winch70 says...
5:53pm Sun 3 Feb 13

MGRA wrote:
Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....
I won't slate your post for being negative, I see it for what it is absolute nonsense.
If you think that yesterday was in anyway a tactical success for Martinez and Wigan then you are truly deluded.

There was major unrest and dissatisfaction from their supporters about how they fail to keep the ball and are 'worked and harried' out of games.
They were gifted a point yesterday, people who have an ounce of footballing knowledge could see that...
I'm sure MP will take onboard your other points and put them into practice at Staplewood on Monday.
Unbelievable some of the 'Fans' that post on this site.

redsnapper says...
5:58pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Bloody Nora that Aguero goal today was goal of the season.

Better get young Nat to "nudge" him again Saturday LOL

COYR!!

slugger says...
5:59pm Sun 3 Feb 13

St.Winch70 wrote:
MGRA wrote:
Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....
I won't slate your post for being negative, I see it for what it is absolute nonsense.
If you think that yesterday was in anyway a tactical success for Martinez and Wigan then you are truly deluded.

There was major unrest and dissatisfaction from their supporters about how they fail to keep the ball and are 'worked and harried' out of games.
They were gifted a point yesterday, people who have an ounce of footballing knowledge could see that...
I'm sure MP will take onboard your other points and put them into practice at Staplewood on Monday.
Unbelievable some of the 'Fans' that post on this site.
Exactly also ........ COYR !!!!

Velleity says...
6:14pm Sun 3 Feb 13

bigfella777 wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
up saints wrote:
does anyone know any forren information.is he injured or not match fit.
hes not match fit .beause norway has a midseason break .a couple of reserve games he should be fine .and will soon be seen in a saints shirt ,but this is the reason
How does someone get match fit without playing a match?
And if they desperately needed a defender why did they get someone who is not match fit?
Redknapp signed Samba from Russia 12.5 mill (ridiculous) he had been on a break but went straight into yesterdays game and they got a 0-0 draw.
Yoshida is weak but I do forgive Shaw for giving them the equaliser as he was superb yesterday.
Boruc save was superb, I think he will beat Yoshy up soon.
Why do you care about any of this? We know you're a Seagulls fan.

Or you were when we were in League One anyway. Have you now formally changed alliegance now that we're doing well? (Presumably until we hit a rough patch again). I think we should be told.

bigfella777 says...
6:17pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Velleity wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
up saints wrote:
does anyone know any forren information.is he injured or not match fit.
hes not match fit .beause norway has a midseason break .a couple of reserve games he should be fine .and will soon be seen in a saints shirt ,but this is the reason
How does someone get match fit without playing a match?
And if they desperately needed a defender why did they get someone who is not match fit?
Redknapp signed Samba from Russia 12.5 mill (ridiculous) he had been on a break but went straight into yesterdays game and they got a 0-0 draw.
Yoshida is weak but I do forgive Shaw for giving them the equaliser as he was superb yesterday.
Boruc save was superb, I think he will beat Yoshy up soon.
Why do you care about any of this? We know you're a Seagulls fan.

Or you were when we were in League One anyway. Have you now formally changed alliegance now that we're doing well? (Presumably until we hit a rough patch again). I think we should be told.
I dont like seagulls, they are noisy and poop on cars.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
6:17pm Sun 3 Feb 13

saintshorse101 wrote:
i really think that some of the posters on here want us to get relegated this season, poopey ones apart, just so that the can the say "told you so!" the amount of times i have read `we are going down, we would stay up with adkins, nc has made a big mistake, this that and those players are only champ quality,we are dropping too many points from winning positions` and of course the best of all `mark my words` its weird that some think like that, and worse that for supporting your team you get called a `happy clapper`.
i am not going to give the whole look where we were 3 years ago speach again, because they dont care ( i dont think some suported saints back then anyway).
the problem is that they are the sort of person that is `never wrong` and despite improved points gains against teams that beat us earlier in the season they are still not happy.
just have a look at all the `experts` opinions of us after the last three games and apart from merson not one thinks we are going down, and merson wants us relegated because adkins was sacked! chris perry was on the radio this morning talking about spuds and they asked him if saints would go down and straight away he replied "absolutely not, too much class, skill and quality". i know pundits get it wrong but i would rather take their opinions over some of the negatives we get on here.
anyone else noticed how the negs post more during a game then fade away when the fans who went to the game start posting the facts about the game. i love the fact we all have different points of view by the way i just fget fed up with the same posters saying the same thing week in week out when all they do is post carp.
rant over
a point next week would be ok but hope for three and think if we take the game to mancity from the start we could get a great result.
Absolutely. A couple of fans to our right were apparently moaning none stop and critising the players throughout the game. In the end some others rounded on them and absolutely lost it. I'm not an advocate of fans falling out with each other, that's what the skunts do, but enough is enough.

Maybe each and every one of us should have to disclose what we expect from the club. I really believe some would moan if we ended up 5th in a few years time and missed out on a CL spot. They would probably call for the managers head and pick a player or two to blame. It's appalling really and shows a mentality that I cannot understand.

Baddesley Bill says...
6:19pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Velleity wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Whilst making the arduous journey back from Wigan, I got to do some thinking....

...presumably, there will be anything up to 10,000 skunts with nothing to do on a Saturday from May onwards...

...any worthwhile suggestions as to what they can do with themselves anyone?
They could come and support their local professional league football team; Saints.

They might actually realise that we have a decent team, an excellent setup and that we have a future having escaped from the hands of shysters in a way they seem to have missed.

It'd be great to hear their voices and to get our stadium so full it needs the expansion we saw on the plans at the turn of the season.

I suspect quite a few will do it on the quiet anyway. A few will never come, of course, and will look to the past rather than the future.

Bill, you know enough of my views on football rivalry to know that, yes, I'm being serious...and we should welcome them.
I like the idea...

Naturally those skunts wishing to enrole should be paraded in front of the home crowd, pelted with rotten fruit (no bricks and gas for those who repent their sins publically), before being welcomed aboard the ranks of the One True Club in Hampshire....

...we can then have a little cage erected in one of the corners for them....and provide them with some tyres on ropes to make them feel at home. :O)

Mush On The Beach says...
6:25pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Velleity wrote:
PS. Sorry if that all sounds a bit gay.
BBB – Big Bertie B0llocks Branfoot loves sucking up to the skunt WUMS on here, but I can categorically say you are both piiiisssssssing in the wind on this one.

Their next generation will be red and white and that will send a lot of the oldies skunts to an early grave, freeing up the national debt on pensions. Our continual success is a boost to the nations GDP.

God Bless Southampton :)

Baddesley Bill says...
6:28pm Sun 3 Feb 13

bigfella777 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
up saints wrote:
does anyone know any forren information.is he injured or not match fit.
hes not match fit .beause norway has a midseason break .a couple of reserve games he should be fine .and will soon be seen in a saints shirt ,but this is the reason
How does someone get match fit without playing a match?
And if they desperately needed a defender why did they get someone who is not match fit?
Redknapp signed Samba from Russia 12.5 mill (ridiculous) he had been on a break but went straight into yesterdays game and they got a 0-0 draw.
Yoshida is weak but I do forgive Shaw for giving them the equaliser as he was superb yesterday.
Boruc save was superb, I think he will beat Yoshy up soon.
Why do you care about any of this? We know you're a Seagulls fan.

Or you were when we were in League One anyway. Have you now formally changed alliegance now that we're doing well? (Presumably until we hit a rough patch again). I think we should be told.
I dont like seagulls, they are noisy and poop on cars.
Another one for my proposed cage for ex-skunt supporters...bigfell
a can be employed to poop on them.

All are welcome...Together We Stand COYR

Baddesley Bill says...
6:35pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saintshorse101 wrote:
i really think that some of the posters on here want us to get relegated this season, poopey ones apart, just so that the can the say "told you so!" the amount of times i have read `we are going down, we would stay up with adkins, nc has made a big mistake, this that and those players are only champ quality,we are dropping too many points from winning positions` and of course the best of all `mark my words` its weird that some think like that, and worse that for supporting your team you get called a `happy clapper`.
i am not going to give the whole look where we were 3 years ago speach again, because they dont care ( i dont think some suported saints back then anyway).
the problem is that they are the sort of person that is `never wrong` and despite improved points gains against teams that beat us earlier in the season they are still not happy.
just have a look at all the `experts` opinions of us after the last three games and apart from merson not one thinks we are going down, and merson wants us relegated because adkins was sacked! chris perry was on the radio this morning talking about spuds and they asked him if saints would go down and straight away he replied "absolutely not, too much class, skill and quality". i know pundits get it wrong but i would rather take their opinions over some of the negatives we get on here.
anyone else noticed how the negs post more during a game then fade away when the fans who went to the game start posting the facts about the game. i love the fact we all have different points of view by the way i just fget fed up with the same posters saying the same thing week in week out when all they do is post carp.
rant over
a point next week would be ok but hope for three and think if we take the game to mancity from the start we could get a great result.
Absolutely. A couple of fans to our right were apparently moaning none stop and critising the players throughout the game. In the end some others rounded on them and absolutely lost it. I'm not an advocate of fans falling out with each other, that's what the skunts do, but enough is enough.

Maybe each and every one of us should have to disclose what we expect from the club. I really believe some would moan if we ended up 5th in a few years time and missed out on a CL spot. They would probably call for the managers head and pick a player or two to blame. It's appalling really and shows a mentality that I cannot understand.
Seed...the couple of fans you are referring to were young, totally p1ssed and were just playing up to get a reaction....they simply could not handle their drink imo.

The vast majority see our current position for what it is...work in progress....and progressing fairly well.

bigfella777 says...
6:55pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Baddesley Bill wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
up saints wrote:
does anyone know any forren information.is he injured or not match fit.
hes not match fit .beause norway has a midseason break .a couple of reserve games he should be fine .and will soon be seen in a saints shirt ,but this is the reason
How does someone get match fit without playing a match?
And if they desperately needed a defender why did they get someone who is not match fit?
Redknapp signed Samba from Russia 12.5 mill (ridiculous) he had been on a break but went straight into yesterdays game and they got a 0-0 draw.
Yoshida is weak but I do forgive Shaw for giving them the equaliser as he was superb yesterday.
Boruc save was superb, I think he will beat Yoshy up soon.
Why do you care about any of this? We know you're a Seagulls fan.

Or you were when we were in League One anyway. Have you now formally changed alliegance now that we're doing well? (Presumably until we hit a rough patch again). I think we should be told.
I dont like seagulls, they are noisy and poop on cars.
Another one for my proposed cage for ex-skunt supporters...bigfell

a can be employed to poop on them.

All are welcome...Together We Stand COYR
Shut up BB you live in the Test valley, your not even from Southampton

slugger says...
6:55pm Sun 3 Feb 13

A serious question to the negative posters (that aren't skates) , where did you expect us to be at this stage of the season ?

slugger says...
6:59pm Sun 3 Feb 13

bigfella777 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
up saints wrote:
does anyone know any forren information.is he injured or not match fit.
hes not match fit .beause norway has a midseason break .a couple of reserve games he should be fine .and will soon be seen in a saints shirt ,but this is the reason
How does someone get match fit without playing a match?
And if they desperately needed a defender why did they get someone who is not match fit?
Redknapp signed Samba from Russia 12.5 mill (ridiculous) he had been on a break but went straight into yesterdays game and they got a 0-0 draw.
Yoshida is weak but I do forgive Shaw for giving them the equaliser as he was superb yesterday.
Boruc save was superb, I think he will beat Yoshy up soon.
Why do you care about any of this? We know you're a Seagulls fan.

Or you were when we were in League One anyway. Have you now formally changed alliegance now that we're doing well? (Presumably until we hit a rough patch again). I think we should be told.
I dont like seagulls, they are noisy and poop on cars.
Another one for my proposed cage for ex-skunt supporters...bigfell


a can be employed to poop on them.

All are welcome...Together We Stand COYR
Shut up BB you live in the Test valley, your not even from Southampton
Nor is Matt le tiss ........ your point ?

bigfella777 says...
7:04pm Sun 3 Feb 13

slugger wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
up saints wrote:
does anyone know any forren information.is he injured or not match fit.
hes not match fit .beause norway has a midseason break .a couple of reserve games he should be fine .and will soon be seen in a saints shirt ,but this is the reason
How does someone get match fit without playing a match?
And if they desperately needed a defender why did they get someone who is not match fit?
Redknapp signed Samba from Russia 12.5 mill (ridiculous) he had been on a break but went straight into yesterdays game and they got a 0-0 draw.
Yoshida is weak but I do forgive Shaw for giving them the equaliser as he was superb yesterday.
Boruc save was superb, I think he will beat Yoshy up soon.
Why do you care about any of this? We know you're a Seagulls fan.

Or you were when we were in League One anyway. Have you now formally changed alliegance now that we're doing well? (Presumably until we hit a rough patch again). I think we should be told.
I dont like seagulls, they are noisy and poop on cars.
Another one for my proposed cage for ex-skunt supporters...bigfell



a can be employed to poop on them.

All are welcome...Together We Stand COYR
Shut up BB you live in the Test valley, your not even from Southampton
Nor is Matt le tiss ........ your point ?
Neither is Dame Edna Etheridge, what's your point?

since 1885 says...
7:06pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Mush On The Beach wrote:
Velleity wrote:
PS. Sorry if that all sounds a bit gay.
BBB – Big Bertie B0llocks Branfoot loves sucking up to the skunt WUMS on here, but I can categorically say you are both piiiisssssssing in the wind on this one.

Their next generation will be red and white and that will send a lot of the oldies skunts to an early grave, freeing up the national debt on pensions. Our continual success is a boost to the nations GDP.

God Bless Southampton :)
Checking in with another humdinger of a post. Mush Beach you keep mentioning me in your posts, I don't know how to let you down gently but I don't swing that way. To each is own and all that, but your barking up the wrong tree with me sweetheart! But I can't help thinking that we are hogging you Mushy. Your dearest and nearest must be pining for some of your attention. We mustn't be greedy now. Good to hear from you Mushy!

slugger says...
7:07pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Bigfella/caughtredha
ndedandy ...... my point is obvious , you answer my question first and then i'll answer yours .

since 1885 says...
7:10pm Sun 3 Feb 13

And I don't get the since 1885 - 2013 gag. You'll have to explain it to me son, at present it's flying over me head. Best you jog on!

SaintMark says...
7:10pm Sun 3 Feb 13

st1halo wrote:
Judging by some of the comments I went back and checked it was the Echo and not the News site!!!

Regardless of individual errors and not walking away with all three points, no-one can fail to be impressed by the way we are dominating teams irrespective of where they are in the league table, home or away, or what form they are in.
MoPo reads the game in real time and acts accordingly, he has galvanised the team into a force in three weeks! I'm quite confident he will not ask the players where they think they are going wrong like Nigel. He will analyse it and tell them exactly. His ability and passion is there to be seen.

If we keep b1tchslappin' teams like this the points will come. IMO we are in the embryonic stage of becoming the best we have ever been. Great times await.

STID and proud!
I like this man xx

SFCOLDBOY says...
7:12pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
slugger wrote:
SFCOLDBOY wrote:
Nice to have bumped into Seedhouse and Bad Bill yesterday.

Bill, did you get that pie?

Not too sure they looked as good as they are reputed to be.
Do you mean the pies , or Seed and Bill ?
Ignore Slugger, he can be very silly at times.

Good to meet you and Insane too. What a great bar, stadium and people. Goes to show what can be done when the owner is a football man.

Bill and Seed the Small went meat and potato and weren't overly impressed but my chunky steak was a top pie.

Nearly home. Great weekend.
I didn't taste mine...just downed it in one! :O)
I hope it didn't go through as quick.
Know what I mean.
Great day out,can't understand how some one thought we were QUIET.
The support was immense.
Think I should be able to talk again by Saturday.
Just in time for the Mancs and a fantastic Saints win.

COYS.

slugger says...
7:13pm Sun 3 Feb 13

since 1885 wrote:
And I don't get the since 1885 - 2013 gag. You'll have to explain it to me son, at present it's flying over me head. Best you jog on!
A saint would ...... "jog on" .

Velleity says...
7:14pm Sun 3 Feb 13

since 1885 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
Velleity wrote:
PS. Sorry if that all sounds a bit gay.
BBB – Big Bertie B0llocks Branfoot loves sucking up to the skunt WUMS on here, but I can categorically say you are both piiiisssssssing in the wind on this one.

Their next generation will be red and white and that will send a lot of the oldies skunts to an early grave, freeing up the national debt on pensions. Our continual success is a boost to the nations GDP.

God Bless Southampton :)
Checking in with another humdinger of a post. Mush Beach you keep mentioning me in your posts, I don't know how to let you down gently but I don't swing that way. To each is own and all that, but your barking up the wrong tree with me sweetheart! But I can't help thinking that we are hogging you Mushy. Your dearest and nearest must be pining for some of your attention. We mustn't be greedy now. Good to hear from you Mushy!
So, let's be crystal clear about this:

since1885 and Bring Back Branfoot are one and the same. It's always the same - multiple signons ALWAYS get caught out using the wrong log in to answer posts aimed at another signon name.

So that's since1885, Bring Back Branfoot and saintlysoul (his more gentle alter ego) all linked. All the same idiot.

Result!

slugger says...
7:19pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Good spot mr velliety .

Baddesley Bill says...
7:21pm Sun 3 Feb 13

bigfella777 wrote:
slugger wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
up saints wrote:
does anyone know any forren information.is he injured or not match fit.
hes not match fit .beause norway has a midseason break .a couple of reserve games he should be fine .and will soon be seen in a saints shirt ,but this is the reason
How does someone get match fit without playing a match?
And if they desperately needed a defender why did they get someone who is not match fit?
Redknapp signed Samba from Russia 12.5 mill (ridiculous) he had been on a break but went straight into yesterdays game and they got a 0-0 draw.
Yoshida is weak but I do forgive Shaw for giving them the equaliser as he was superb yesterday.
Boruc save was superb, I think he will beat Yoshy up soon.
Why do you care about any of this? We know you're a Seagulls fan.

Or you were when we were in League One anyway. Have you now formally changed alliegance now that we're doing well? (Presumably until we hit a rough patch again). I think we should be told.
I dont like seagulls, they are noisy and poop on cars.
Another one for my proposed cage for ex-skunt supporters...bigfell




a can be employed to poop on them.

All are welcome...Together We Stand COYR
Shut up BB you live in the Test valley, your not even from Southampton
Nor is Matt le tiss ........ your point ?
Neither is Dame Edna Etheridge, what's your point?
Is Dame Edna a Saints fan..or are you just a berk?

No need to answer that one....I know the answer to both.

since 1885 says...
7:22pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Velleity wrote:
since 1885 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
Velleity wrote:
PS. Sorry if that all sounds a bit gay.
BBB – Big Bertie B0llocks Branfoot loves sucking up to the skunt WUMS on here, but I can categorically say you are both piiiisssssssing in the wind on this one.

Their next generation will be red and white and that will send a lot of the oldies skunts to an early grave, freeing up the national debt on pensions. Our continual success is a boost to the nations GDP.

God Bless Southampton :)
Checking in with another humdinger of a post. Mush Beach you keep mentioning me in your posts, I don't know how to let you down gently but I don't swing that way. To each is own and all that, but your barking up the wrong tree with me sweetheart! But I can't help thinking that we are hogging you Mushy. Your dearest and nearest must be pining for some of your attention. We mustn't be greedy now. Good to hear from you Mushy!
So, let's be crystal clear about this:

since1885 and Bring Back Branfoot are one and the same. It's always the same - multiple signons ALWAYS get caught out using the wrong log in to answer posts aimed at another signon name.

So that's since1885, Bring Back Branfoot and saintlysoul (his more gentle alter ego) all linked. All the same idiot.

Result!
You again, I applaud pilots who can fly planes! As I was saying to Mush, reading last nights thread I was constantly been mentioned by you. As I said I ain't interested son, I'm straight. And it's Since 1885 treacle!

slugger says...
7:24pm Sun 3 Feb 13

^^^^^^ wriggle wriggle ... LOL

Baddesley Bill says...
7:27pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Good spot V....V is for vigelent! :O)

SaintinCanada says...
7:27pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Whilst making the arduous journey back from Wigan, I got to do some thinking....

...presumably, there will be anything up to 10,000 skunts with nothing to do on a Saturday from May onwards...

...any worthwhile suggestions as to what they can do with themselves anyone?
They should get ready for another history session to use against us.

It took SFC two back to back seasons to get to the Premier.

P**pey could get there in THREE back-to-backs. Make no mistake, they are on course for this as early as next season.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
7:40pm Sun 3 Feb 13

If 1885 isn't a skunt then he's an embarrassment with his attitude to other Saints fans.

Baddesley Bill says...
7:41pm Sun 3 Feb 13

SaintinCanada wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Whilst making the arduous journey back from Wigan, I got to do some thinking....

...presumably, there will be anything up to 10,000 skunts with nothing to do on a Saturday from May onwards...

...any worthwhile suggestions as to what they can do with themselves anyone?
They should get ready for another history session to use against us.

It took SFC two back to back seasons to get to the Premier.

P**pey could get there in THREE back-to-backs. Make no mistake, they are on course for this as early as next season.
Just doin the math here...but in 5yrs time they could be looking at a possible 8 b2b promotions back to the Prem! :O)

MGRA says...
7:42pm Sun 3 Feb 13

St.Winch70 wrote:
MGRA wrote:
Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....
I won't slate your post for being negative, I see it for what it is absolute nonsense.
If you think that yesterday was in anyway a tactical success for Martinez and Wigan then you are truly deluded.

There was major unrest and dissatisfaction from their supporters about how they fail to keep the ball and are 'worked and harried' out of games.
They were gifted a point yesterday, people who have an ounce of footballing knowledge could see that...
I'm sure MP will take onboard your other points and put them into practice at Staplewood on Monday.
Unbelievable some of the 'Fans' that post on this site.
you are deluded. Wigan are staying up. Anyone who knows anything about football sees this.... they are interested in POINTS.... we were out-thought AGAIN.... saints hopefully will scrape survival but Wigan gave a masterclass about how to play football at this level.. its not about possession, pretty football and how rubbish we are at scoring. Its about how to win games.... I posted before the game that wigan would get 2 out of nothing and we would have to outscore them.... this is not rocket science, we can be congratutlated for being the best footballing side ever to be relegated,but it still means we go down....."fans" are those that know the game, martinez is a clever guy, and if you are too stpid to see it you know a lot less than you though, Wigan have mugged us twice this season.... simples....

st1halo says...
7:42pm Sun 3 Feb 13

SaintinCanada wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Whilst making the arduous journey back from Wigan, I got to do some thinking....

...presumably, there will be anything up to 10,000 skunts with nothing to do on a Saturday from May onwards...

...any worthwhile suggestions as to what they can do with themselves anyone?
They should get ready for another history session to use against us.

It took SFC two back to back seasons to get to the Premier.

P**pey could get there in THREE back-to-backs. Make no mistake, they are on course for this as early as next season.
Not wanting to be outdone the Skates are matching our back to back promotions with back to back relegations! They are going to sign Eddie the Eagle as he has plenty of experience going downhill fast!

STID

Baddesley Bill says...
7:44pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
If 1885 isn't a skunt then he's an embarrassment with his attitude to other Saints fans.
If 1885 is a skunt....then I guess that just makes him an embarrasment in general then.

slugger says...
7:45pm Sun 3 Feb 13

st1halo wrote:
SaintinCanada wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Whilst making the arduous journey back from Wigan, I got to do some thinking....

...presumably, there will be anything up to 10,000 skunts with nothing to do on a Saturday from May onwards...

...any worthwhile suggestions as to what they can do with themselves anyone?
They should get ready for another history session to use against us.

It took SFC two back to back seasons to get to the Premier.

P**pey could get there in THREE back-to-backs. Make no mistake, they are on course for this as early as next season.
Not wanting to be outdone the Skates are matching our back to back promotions with back to back relegations! They are going to sign Eddie the Eagle as he has plenty of experience going downhill fast!

STID
lol , top post .

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
7:47pm Sun 3 Feb 13

The skunts are feisty tonight. Not long now.


14.2.13

Baddesley Bill says...
7:48pm Sun 3 Feb 13

MGRA wrote:
St.Winch70 wrote:
MGRA wrote:
Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....
I won't slate your post for being negative, I see it for what it is absolute nonsense.
If you think that yesterday was in anyway a tactical success for Martinez and Wigan then you are truly deluded.

There was major unrest and dissatisfaction from their supporters about how they fail to keep the ball and are 'worked and harried' out of games.
They were gifted a point yesterday, people who have an ounce of footballing knowledge could see that...
I'm sure MP will take onboard your other points and put them into practice at Staplewood on Monday.
Unbelievable some of the 'Fans' that post on this site.
you are deluded. Wigan are staying up. Anyone who knows anything about football sees this.... they are interested in POINTS.... we were out-thought AGAIN.... saints hopefully will scrape survival but Wigan gave a masterclass about how to play football at this level.. its not about possession, pretty football and how rubbish we are at scoring. Its about how to win games.... I posted before the game that wigan would get 2 out of nothing and we would have to outscore them.... this is not rocket science, we can be congratutlated for being the best footballing side ever to be relegated,but it still means we go down....."fans" are those that know the game, martinez is a clever guy, and if you are too stpid to see it you know a lot less than you though, Wigan have mugged us twice this season.... simples....
MGRA...you are just looking to pick an arguement for no particular reason again.

Just as well part of the Wigan game plan was to let us take the lead during our period of dominance.

Master tactician that Martinez.

MGRA says...
7:49pm Sun 3 Feb 13

slugger wrote:
A serious question to the negative posters (that aren't skates) , where did you expect us to be at this stage of the season ?
i expected us to be pretty much exactly where we are now.... but i did not expect so much delusion about our situation and how "unlucky" we are playing this "great football". I like to watch it, but We also need to finish above 3 other teams so a bit more realism would go down a treat tbo,,,, I negative/positive is playground stuff... I prefer fantasy/realism. i want ths season to be a survival mission because I am CONVINCED we will flourish if we stay up, but we have to loose this pathetic "we play great football" label , we don't if we don't get the wins we should, and being more clever about games and getting to 38 points ( which I think will be saftey ) if our priority. This is the opposite of being negative, this is a positive point of view, smarten-up , survive and then onwards and upwards.

saintlysoul says...
7:49pm Sun 3 Feb 13

since 1885 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
since 1885 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
Velleity wrote:
PS. Sorry if that all sounds a bit gay.
BBB – Big Bertie B0llocks Branfoot loves sucking up to the skunt WUMS on here, but I can categorically say you are both piiiisssssssing in the wind on this one.

Their next generation will be red and white and that will send a lot of the oldies skunts to an early grave, freeing up the national debt on pensions. Our continual success is a boost to the nations GDP.

God Bless Southampton :)
Checking in with another humdinger of a post. Mush Beach you keep mentioning me in your posts, I don't know how to let you down gently but I don't swing that way. To each is own and all that, but your barking up the wrong tree with me sweetheart! But I can't help thinking that we are hogging you Mushy. Your dearest and nearest must be pining for some of your attention. We mustn't be greedy now. Good to hear from you Mushy!
So, let's be crystal clear about this:

since1885 and Bring Back Branfoot are one and the same. It's always the same - multiple signons ALWAYS get caught out using the wrong log in to answer posts aimed at another signon name.

So that's since1885, Bring Back Branfoot and saintlysoul (his more gentle alter ego) all linked. All the same idiot.

Result!
You again, I applaud pilots who can fly planes! As I was saying to Mush, reading last nights thread I was constantly been mentioned by you. As I said I ain't interested son, I'm straight. And it's Since 1885 treacle!
Valerie you are a complete and utter **** who bores people constantly talking out of your back passage!!!

MGRA says...
7:53pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Baddesley Bill wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St.Winch70 wrote:
MGRA wrote:
Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....
I won't slate your post for being negative, I see it for what it is absolute nonsense.
If you think that yesterday was in anyway a tactical success for Martinez and Wigan then you are truly deluded.

There was major unrest and dissatisfaction from their supporters about how they fail to keep the ball and are 'worked and harried' out of games.
They were gifted a point yesterday, people who have an ounce of footballing knowledge could see that...
I'm sure MP will take onboard your other points and put them into practice at Staplewood on Monday.
Unbelievable some of the 'Fans' that post on this site.
you are deluded. Wigan are staying up. Anyone who knows anything about football sees this.... they are interested in POINTS.... we were out-thought AGAIN.... saints hopefully will scrape survival but Wigan gave a masterclass about how to play football at this level.. its not about possession, pretty football and how rubbish we are at scoring. Its about how to win games.... I posted before the game that wigan would get 2 out of nothing and we would have to outscore them.... this is not rocket science, we can be congratutlated for being the best footballing side ever to be relegated,but it still means we go down....."fans" are those that know the game, martinez is a clever guy, and if you are too stpid to see it you know a lot less than you though, Wigan have mugged us twice this season.... simples....
MGRA...you are just looking to pick an arguement for no particular reason again.

Just as well part of the Wigan game plan was to let us take the lead during our period of dominance.

Master tactician that Martinez.
no argument. Just want to be realistic. Wigan were the better side on Saturday, they know how to cater for the oppostion and they will stay up , against the odds, again. I love watching attacking football as much as the next guy but we have not got the edge up front to convert it as this level. We need to mix flair with a bit of thinking and its clear we are not a team that can pace the game for 90 minutes. I am not sure what is so controversial here, its obvious stuff isn't it ?

Velleity says...
8:01pm Sun 3 Feb 13

saintlysoul wrote:
since 1885 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
since 1885 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
Velleity wrote:
PS. Sorry if that all sounds a bit gay.
BBB – Big Bertie B0llocks Branfoot loves sucking up to the skunt WUMS on here, but I can categorically say you are both piiiisssssssing in the wind on this one.

Their next generation will be red and white and that will send a lot of the oldies skunts to an early grave, freeing up the national debt on pensions. Our continual success is a boost to the nations GDP.

God Bless Southampton :)
Checking in with another humdinger of a post. Mush Beach you keep mentioning me in your posts, I don't know how to let you down gently but I don't swing that way. To each is own and all that, but your barking up the wrong tree with me sweetheart! But I can't help thinking that we are hogging you Mushy. Your dearest and nearest must be pining for some of your attention. We mustn't be greedy now. Good to hear from you Mushy!
So, let's be crystal clear about this:

since1885 and Bring Back Branfoot are one and the same. It's always the same - multiple signons ALWAYS get caught out using the wrong log in to answer posts aimed at another signon name.

So that's since1885, Bring Back Branfoot and saintlysoul (his more gentle alter ego) all linked. All the same idiot.

Result!
You again, I applaud pilots who can fly planes! As I was saying to Mush, reading last nights thread I was constantly been mentioned by you. As I said I ain't interested son, I'm straight. And it's Since 1885 treacle!
Valerie you are a complete and utter **** who bores people constantly talking out of your back passage!!!
Look, Saintlysoul/BBB/sinc
e1885, what you need to do is go away and lie in a dark room for a while, select one of your signons to use and stop pretending to be three different people. It doesn't work and just makes you look a bit of a twit.

slugger says...
8:04pm Sun 3 Feb 13

MGRA wrote:
slugger wrote:
A serious question to the negative posters (that aren't skates) , where did you expect us to be at this stage of the season ?
i expected us to be pretty much exactly where we are now.... but i did not expect so much delusion about our situation and how "unlucky" we are playing this "great football". I like to watch it, but We also need to finish above 3 other teams so a bit more realism would go down a treat tbo,,,, I negative/positive is playground stuff... I prefer fantasy/realism. i want ths season to be a survival mission because I am CONVINCED we will flourish if we stay up, but we have to loose this pathetic "we play great football" label , we don't if we don't get the wins we should, and being more clever about games and getting to 38 points ( which I think will be saftey ) if our priority. This is the opposite of being negative, this is a positive point of view, smarten-up , survive and then onwards and upwards.
But the truth is that we ARE playing good football , what's the problem with that ? ........... would you be more satisfied if we were in our current position by playing hoof ball ?

angus mc coatup says...
8:06pm Sun 3 Feb 13

MGRA wrote:
St.Winch70 wrote:
MGRA wrote:
Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....
I won't slate your post for being negative, I see it for what it is absolute nonsense.
If you think that yesterday was in anyway a tactical success for Martinez and Wigan then you are truly deluded.

There was major unrest and dissatisfaction from their supporters about how they fail to keep the ball and are 'worked and harried' out of games.
They were gifted a point yesterday, people who have an ounce of footballing knowledge could see that...
I'm sure MP will take onboard your other points and put them into practice at Staplewood on Monday.
Unbelievable some of the 'Fans' that post on this site.
you are deluded. Wigan are staying up. Anyone who knows anything about football sees this.... they are interested in POINTS.... we were out-thought AGAIN.... saints hopefully will scrape survival but Wigan gave a masterclass about how to play football at this level.. its not about possession, pretty football and how rubbish we are at scoring. Its about how to win games.... I posted before the game that wigan would get 2 out of nothing and we would have to outscore them.... this is not rocket science, we can be congratutlated for being the best footballing side ever to be relegated,but it still means we go down....."fans" are those that know the game, martinez is a clever guy, and if you are too stpid to see it you know a lot less than you though, Wigan have mugged us twice this season.... simples....
mgra why don't you have a look at the
"wigan today" match report,and read the wigan's fans comments about your so called master tactition.It's far from complementary I can tell you.one bloke even refers to martinez as "bullsh!t bob".
we have battered every team since the new fella's come in,and the way we completely dominated wigan has far more reaching effects than just taking a point.their confidence and belief will have taken a major dent,and in this league that,on it's own can have a major consequences.the players are still picking up what,excactly,the new guy wants.with fonte to come back and forren getting ready we will only improve Imo.

Baddesley Bill says...
8:06pm Sun 3 Feb 13

MGRA wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St.Winch70 wrote:
MGRA wrote:
Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....
I won't slate your post for being negative, I see it for what it is absolute nonsense.
If you think that yesterday was in anyway a tactical success for Martinez and Wigan then you are truly deluded.

There was major unrest and dissatisfaction from their supporters about how they fail to keep the ball and are 'worked and harried' out of games.
They were gifted a point yesterday, people who have an ounce of footballing knowledge could see that...
I'm sure MP will take onboard your other points and put them into practice at Staplewood on Monday.
Unbelievable some of the 'Fans' that post on this site.
you are deluded. Wigan are staying up. Anyone who knows anything about football sees this.... they are interested in POINTS.... we were out-thought AGAIN.... saints hopefully will scrape survival but Wigan gave a masterclass about how to play football at this level.. its not about possession, pretty football and how rubbish we are at scoring. Its about how to win games.... I posted before the game that wigan would get 2 out of nothing and we would have to outscore them.... this is not rocket science, we can be congratutlated for being the best footballing side ever to be relegated,but it still means we go down....."fans" are those that know the game, martinez is a clever guy, and if you are too stpid to see it you know a lot less than you though, Wigan have mugged us twice this season.... simples....
MGRA...you are just looking to pick an arguement for no particular reason again.

Just as well part of the Wigan game plan was to let us take the lead during our period of dominance.

Master tactician that Martinez.
no argument. Just want to be realistic. Wigan were the better side on Saturday, they know how to cater for the oppostion and they will stay up , against the odds, again. I love watching attacking football as much as the next guy but we have not got the edge up front to convert it as this level. We need to mix flair with a bit of thinking and its clear we are not a team that can pace the game for 90 minutes. I am not sure what is so controversial here, its obvious stuff isn't it ?
So obvious...that only you (and a few dubious others on here) can see it MGRA....not our management...not the players...not the Chairman.

...you need to apply for the job mate.

Do me one favour...make observations and opinions about what you think is going to happen...not statements (it makes you look a little silly if your predicted "facts" dont actually occur)

SAINTStevie61163 says...
8:08pm Sun 3 Feb 13

MGRA wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St.Winch70 wrote:
MGRA wrote:
Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....
I won't slate your post for being negative, I see it for what it is absolute nonsense.
If you think that yesterday was in anyway a tactical success for Martinez and Wigan then you are truly deluded.

There was major unrest and dissatisfaction from their supporters about how they fail to keep the ball and are 'worked and harried' out of games.
They were gifted a point yesterday, people who have an ounce of footballing knowledge could see that...
I'm sure MP will take onboard your other points and put them into practice at Staplewood on Monday.
Unbelievable some of the 'Fans' that post on this site.
you are deluded. Wigan are staying up. Anyone who knows anything about football sees this.... they are interested in POINTS.... we were out-thought AGAIN.... saints hopefully will scrape survival but Wigan gave a masterclass about how to play football at this level.. its not about possession, pretty football and how rubbish we are at scoring. Its about how to win games.... I posted before the game that wigan would get 2 out of nothing and we would have to outscore them.... this is not rocket science, we can be congratutlated for being the best footballing side ever to be relegated,but it still means we go down....."fans" are those that know the game, martinez is a clever guy, and if you are too stpid to see it you know a lot less than you though, Wigan have mugged us twice this season.... simples....
MGRA...you are just looking to pick an arguement for no particular reason again.

Just as well part of the Wigan game plan was to let us take the lead during our period of dominance.

Master tactician that Martinez.
no argument. Just want to be realistic. Wigan were the better side on Saturday, they know how to cater for the oppostion and they will stay up , against the odds, again. I love watching attacking football as much as the next guy but we have not got the edge up front to convert it as this level. We need to mix flair with a bit of thinking and its clear we are not a team that can pace the game for 90 minutes. I am not sure what is so controversial here, its obvious stuff isn't it ?
what a load of tosh "wigan were the better team" how do you work that one out?????? if by being the better team they have less possession, they have less shots either on or off target then yes Wigan were the better team. I wonder how many of the great teams actually plan to have less possession then the opposition so that they can then win. KNOB!!!

st1halo says...
8:14pm Sun 3 Feb 13

MGRA wrote:
St.Winch70 wrote:
MGRA wrote:
Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....
I won't slate your post for being negative, I see it for what it is absolute nonsense.
If you think that yesterday was in anyway a tactical success for Martinez and Wigan then you are truly deluded.

There was major unrest and dissatisfaction from their supporters about how they fail to keep the ball and are 'worked and harried' out of games.
They were gifted a point yesterday, people who have an ounce of footballing knowledge could see that...
I'm sure MP will take onboard your other points and put them into practice at Staplewood on Monday.
Unbelievable some of the 'Fans' that post on this site.
you are deluded. Wigan are staying up. Anyone who knows anything about football sees this.... they are interested in POINTS.... we were out-thought AGAIN.... saints hopefully will scrape survival but Wigan gave a masterclass about how to play football at this level.. its not about possession, pretty football and how rubbish we are at scoring. Its about how to win games.... I posted before the game that wigan would get 2 out of nothing and we would have to outscore them.... this is not rocket science, we can be congratutlated for being the best footballing side ever to be relegated,but it still means we go down....."fans" are those that know the game, martinez is a clever guy, and if you are too stpid to see it you know a lot less than you though, Wigan have mugged us twice this season.... simples....
This is just wrong on so many levels

1) Wigan are staying up. Anyone who knows anything about football sees this....

Most experts agree that they escaped relegation by changing formation last year to three at the back, flooding midfield and pushing forward in numbers and that this option will not be available this year as most opposition teams have done their homework so escaping is going to be very difficult.

2) Wigan gave a masterclass about how to play football at this level.. its not about possession, pretty football and how rubbish we are at scoring. Its about how to win games....

If being out-muscled, out-played and generally b1tchslapped whilst playing at home is a tactic, I'd be very surprised. Certainly one I hope we don't employ!
This masterclass didn't extend to them winning then?

3)....."fans" are those that know the game, martinez is a clever guy
Obviously not clever enough to steer the team away from relegation threats over the years though. I'd say and the stats reinforce he is at about his level in football.

Our weakness is set pieces, both offensive and defensive, if we had those right we would have anihilated Wigan yesterday.


STID

Baddesley Bill says...
8:16pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The skunts are feisty tonight. Not long now.


14.2.13
I see you have been applying some flyspray (simple facts) to the hornets nest (news site).

...they really don't like it do they! :O)

saintkenny says...
8:17pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Baddesley Bill wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St.Winch70 wrote:
MGRA wrote:
Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....
I won't slate your post for being negative, I see it for what it is absolute nonsense.
If you think that yesterday was in anyway a tactical success for Martinez and Wigan then you are truly deluded.

There was major unrest and dissatisfaction from their supporters about how they fail to keep the ball and are 'worked and harried' out of games.
They were gifted a point yesterday, people who have an ounce of footballing knowledge could see that...
I'm sure MP will take onboard your other points and put them into practice at Staplewood on Monday.
Unbelievable some of the 'Fans' that post on this site.
you are deluded. Wigan are staying up. Anyone who knows anything about football sees this.... they are interested in POINTS.... we were out-thought AGAIN.... saints hopefully will scrape survival but Wigan gave a masterclass about how to play football at this level.. its not about possession, pretty football and how rubbish we are at scoring. Its about how to win games.... I posted before the game that wigan would get 2 out of nothing and we would have to outscore them.... this is not rocket science, we can be congratutlated for being the best footballing side ever to be relegated,but it still means we go down....."fans" are those that know the game, martinez is a clever guy, and if you are too stpid to see it you know a lot less than you though, Wigan have mugged us twice this season.... simples....
MGRA...you are just looking to pick an arguement for no particular reason again.

Just as well part of the Wigan game plan was to let us take the lead during our period of dominance.

Master tactician that Martinez.
howv do you get wigan will stay up on form last 15 games they have picked up 10 points ,and the saints have picked up 20 points .you need to look at tables and results .they got out of it last season.but they sold moses there best player who made the difference ,they were poor and saints were better has hansen and lineker quoted on mod .if think this could be there year

saintkenny says...
8:22pm Sun 3 Feb 13

st1halo wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St.Winch70 wrote:
MGRA wrote:
Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....
I won't slate your post for being negative, I see it for what it is absolute nonsense.
If you think that yesterday was in anyway a tactical success for Martinez and Wigan then you are truly deluded.

There was major unrest and dissatisfaction from their supporters about how they fail to keep the ball and are 'worked and harried' out of games.
They were gifted a point yesterday, people who have an ounce of footballing knowledge could see that...
I'm sure MP will take onboard your other points and put them into practice at Staplewood on Monday.
Unbelievable some of the 'Fans' that post on this site.
you are deluded. Wigan are staying up. Anyone who knows anything about football sees this.... they are interested in POINTS.... we were out-thought AGAIN.... saints hopefully will scrape survival but Wigan gave a masterclass about how to play football at this level.. its not about possession, pretty football and how rubbish we are at scoring. Its about how to win games.... I posted before the game that wigan would get 2 out of nothing and we would have to outscore them.... this is not rocket science, we can be congratutlated for being the best footballing side ever to be relegated,but it still means we go down....."fans" are those that know the game, martinez is a clever guy, and if you are too stpid to see it you know a lot less than you though, Wigan have mugged us twice this season.... simples....
This is just wrong on so many levels

1) Wigan are staying up. Anyone who knows anything about football sees this....

Most experts agree that they escaped relegation by changing formation last year to three at the back, flooding midfield and pushing forward in numbers and that this option will not be available this year as most opposition teams have done their homework so escaping is going to be very difficult.

2) Wigan gave a masterclass about how to play football at this level.. its not about possession, pretty football and how rubbish we are at scoring. Its about how to win games....

If being out-muscled, out-played and generally b1tchslapped whilst playing at home is a tactic, I'd be very surprised. Certainly one I hope we don't employ!
This masterclass didn't extend to them winning then?

3)....."fans" are those that know the game, martinez is a clever guy
Obviously not clever enough to steer the team away from relegation threats over the years though. I'd say and the stats reinforce he is at about his level in football.

Our weakness is set pieces, both offensive and defensive, if we had those right we would have anihilated Wigan yesterday.


STID
well his he that great 10 points from there last 15 games .on that form there finish under qpr .and means relegation as qpr got 13 in last 15 fact mgra wum

slugger says...
8:22pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The skunts are feisty tonight. Not long now.


14.2.13
I see you have been applying some flyspray (simple facts) to the hornets nest (news site).

...they really don't like it do they! :O)
I do worry about Blue Walter (seems a decent sort) ........ will he top himself ? ..... his family should keep an eye on him ........... COYR !!!

slugger says...
8:29pm Sun 3 Feb 13

My opinion ....... We are playing better football since MP took over , the results will come , just you see !

st1halo says...
8:33pm Sun 3 Feb 13

slugger wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The skunts are feisty tonight. Not long now.


14.2.13
I see you have been applying some flyspray (simple facts) to the hornets nest (news site).

...they really don't like it do they! :O)
I do worry about Blue Walter (seems a decent sort) ........ will he top himself ? ..... his family should keep an eye on him ........... COYR !!!
I think we should make a dvd of their last win! and sell it to them.
To make it more authentic we could have it remastered in black and white as it was a long time ago.
We would only need to print about 9000 copies though! Any more would be wasted!


STID

slugger says...
8:41pm Sun 3 Feb 13

MGRA wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St.Winch70 wrote:
MGRA wrote:
Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....
I won't slate your post for being negative, I see it for what it is absolute nonsense.
If you think that yesterday was in anyway a tactical success for Martinez and Wigan then you are truly deluded.

There was major unrest and dissatisfaction from their supporters about how they fail to keep the ball and are 'worked and harried' out of games.
They were gifted a point yesterday, people who have an ounce of footballing knowledge could see that...
I'm sure MP will take onboard your other points and put them into practice at Staplewood on Monday.
Unbelievable some of the 'Fans' that post on this site.
you are deluded. Wigan are staying up. Anyone who knows anything about football sees this.... they are interested in POINTS.... we were out-thought AGAIN.... saints hopefully will scrape survival but Wigan gave a masterclass about how to play football at this level.. its not about possession, pretty football and how rubbish we are at scoring. Its about how to win games.... I posted before the game that wigan would get 2 out of nothing and we would have to outscore them.... this is not rocket science, we can be congratutlated for being the best footballing side ever to be relegated,but it still means we go down....."fans" are those that know the game, martinez is a clever guy, and if you are too stpid to see it you know a lot less than you though, Wigan have mugged us twice this season.... simples....
MGRA...you are just looking to pick an arguement for no particular reason again.

Just as well part of the Wigan game plan was to let us take the lead during our period of dominance.

Master tactician that Martinez.
no argument. Just want to be realistic. Wigan were the better side on Saturday, they know how to cater for the oppostion and they will stay up , against the odds, again. I love watching attacking football as much as the next guy but we have not got the edge up front to convert it as this level. We need to mix flair with a bit of thinking and its clear we are not a team that can pace the game for 90 minutes. I am not sure what is so controversial here, its obvious stuff isn't it ?
Every now and again I agree with a post you make , the rest of the time ....................
..

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
8:44pm Sun 3 Feb 13

slugger wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The skunts are feisty tonight. Not long now.


14.2.13
I see you have been applying some flyspray (simple facts) to the hornets nest (news site).

...they really don't like it do they! :O)
I do worry about Blue Walter (seems a decent sort) ........ will he top himself ? ..... his family should keep an eye on him ........... COYR !!!
Yes, I've just pointed out it is infact all his fault personally, with good logical reasoned argument, be interesting to see which way he swims.

st1halo says...
8:51pm Sun 3 Feb 13

MGRA wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St.Winch70 wrote:
MGRA wrote:
Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....
I won't slate your post for being negative, I see it for what it is absolute nonsense.
If you think that yesterday was in anyway a tactical success for Martinez and Wigan then you are truly deluded.

There was major unrest and dissatisfaction from their supporters about how they fail to keep the ball and are 'worked and harried' out of games.
They were gifted a point yesterday, people who have an ounce of footballing knowledge could see that...
I'm sure MP will take onboard your other points and put them into practice at Staplewood on Monday.
Unbelievable some of the 'Fans' that post on this site.
you are deluded. Wigan are staying up. Anyone who knows anything about football sees this.... they are interested in POINTS.... we were out-thought AGAIN.... saints hopefully will scrape survival but Wigan gave a masterclass about how to play football at this level.. its not about possession, pretty football and how rubbish we are at scoring. Its about how to win games.... I posted before the game that wigan would get 2 out of nothing and we would have to outscore them.... this is not rocket science, we can be congratutlated for being the best footballing side ever to be relegated,but it still means we go down....."fans" are those that know the game, martinez is a clever guy, and if you are too stpid to see it you know a lot less than you though, Wigan have mugged us twice this season.... simples....
MGRA...you are just looking to pick an arguement for no particular reason again.

Just as well part of the Wigan game plan was to let us take the lead during our period of dominance.

Master tactician that Martinez.
no argument. Just want to be realistic. Wigan were the better side on Saturday, they know how to cater for the oppostion and they will stay up , against the odds, again. I love watching attacking football as much as the next guy but we have not got the edge up front to convert it as this level. We need to mix flair with a bit of thinking and its clear we are not a team that can pace the game for 90 minutes. I am not sure what is so controversial here, its obvious stuff isn't it ?
I think you are confusing the pretty football we played earlier in the season to what is being played now.
It is not the same attacking game we employed previously. It's a high pressing game, condensing the pitch and restricting the opposition. The philosophy is simple... the opposition will find it difficult to score if they are stuck in their own half. Because you have condensed the pitch and playing area you can maintain pace.
The players have only had three attempts so far to get things right but are obviously enjoying playing that way and wow! what a difference. Mistakes will be made but if it's realism you want, take a closer look, Is Rickie looking so tired now when playing? Are the stats heavily in our favour after games? Those points will come.

STID

saintlysoul says...
9:04pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Velleity wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
since 1885 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
since 1885 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
Velleity wrote:
PS. Sorry if that all sounds a bit gay.
BBB – Big Bertie B0llocks Branfoot loves sucking up to the skunt WUMS on here, but I can categorically say you are both piiiisssssssing in the wind on this one.

Their next generation will be red and white and that will send a lot of the oldies skunts to an early grave, freeing up the national debt on pensions. Our continual success is a boost to the nations GDP.

God Bless Southampton :)
Checking in with another humdinger of a post. Mush Beach you keep mentioning me in your posts, I don't know how to let you down gently but I don't swing that way. To each is own and all that, but your barking up the wrong tree with me sweetheart! But I can't help thinking that we are hogging you Mushy. Your dearest and nearest must be pining for some of your attention. We mustn't be greedy now. Good to hear from you Mushy!
So, let's be crystal clear about this:

since1885 and Bring Back Branfoot are one and the same. It's always the same - multiple signons ALWAYS get caught out using the wrong log in to answer posts aimed at another signon name.

So that's since1885, Bring Back Branfoot and saintlysoul (his more gentle alter ego) all linked. All the same idiot.

Result!
You again, I applaud pilots who can fly planes! As I was saying to Mush, reading last nights thread I was constantly been mentioned by you. As I said I ain't interested son, I'm straight. And it's Since 1885 treacle!
Valerie you are a complete and utter **** who bores people constantly talking out of your back passage!!!
Look, Saintlysoul/BBB/sinc

e1885, what you need to do is go away and lie in a dark room for a while, select one of your signons to use and stop pretending to be three different people. It doesn't work and just makes you look a bit of a twit.
Valerie you've broken your word you said you'd never respond to one of my texts again!!!! 'A bit of a twit' ok have a look at my posts - you seem to spend a lot of time checking them- and see how many accurate posts I have actually posted. It's a shame you are the way you are.

mack chinnon says...
9:09pm Sun 3 Feb 13

saintshorse101 wrote:
i really think that some of the posters on here want us to get relegated this season, poopey ones apart, just so that the can the say "told you so!" the amount of times i have read `we are going down, we would stay up with adkins, nc has made a big mistake, this that and those players are only champ quality,we are dropping too many points from winning positions` and of course the best of all `mark my words` its weird that some think like that, and worse that for supporting your team you get called a `happy clapper`.
i am not going to give the whole look where we were 3 years ago speach again, because they dont care ( i dont think some suported saints back then anyway).
the problem is that they are the sort of person that is `never wrong` and despite improved points gains against teams that beat us earlier in the season they are still not happy.
just have a look at all the `experts` opinions of us after the last three games and apart from merson not one thinks we are going down, and merson wants us relegated because adkins was sacked! chris perry was on the radio this morning talking about spuds and they asked him if saints would go down and straight away he replied "absolutely not, too much class, skill and quality". i know pundits get it wrong but i would rather take their opinions over some of the negatives we get on here.
anyone else noticed how the negs post more during a game then fade away when the fans who went to the game start posting the facts about the game. i love the fact we all have different points of view by the way i just fget fed up with the same posters saying the same thing week in week out when all they do is post carp.
rant over
a point next week would be ok but hope for three and think if we take the game to mancity from the start we could get a great result.
Im with you Amigo.
Come on Scunny.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
9:14pm Sun 3 Feb 13

The PST mission statement:

Our aim is to bring about responsible, democratic representation at Portsmouth Football Club and so help promote the highest standards of transparent governance, accountability and embed Portsmouth FC deeper into its community through greater communication and co-operation with its fans.

?????????

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
9:17pm Sun 3 Feb 13

saintlysoul wrote:
Velleity wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
since 1885 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
since 1885 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
Velleity wrote:
PS. Sorry if that all sounds a bit gay.
BBB – Big Bertie B0llocks Branfoot loves sucking up to the skunt WUMS on here, but I can categorically say you are both piiiisssssssing in the wind on this one.

Their next generation will be red and white and that will send a lot of the oldies skunts to an early grave, freeing up the national debt on pensions. Our continual success is a boost to the nations GDP.

God Bless Southampton :)
Checking in with another humdinger of a post. Mush Beach you keep mentioning me in your posts, I don't know how to let you down gently but I don't swing that way. To each is own and all that, but your barking up the wrong tree with me sweetheart! But I can't help thinking that we are hogging you Mushy. Your dearest and nearest must be pining for some of your attention. We mustn't be greedy now. Good to hear from you Mushy!
So, let's be crystal clear about this:

since1885 and Bring Back Branfoot are one and the same. It's always the same - multiple signons ALWAYS get caught out using the wrong log in to answer posts aimed at another signon name.

So that's since1885, Bring Back Branfoot and saintlysoul (his more gentle alter ego) all linked. All the same idiot.

Result!
You again, I applaud pilots who can fly planes! As I was saying to Mush, reading last nights thread I was constantly been mentioned by you. As I said I ain't interested son, I'm straight. And it's Since 1885 treacle!
Valerie you are a complete and utter **** who bores people constantly talking out of your back passage!!!
Look, Saintlysoul/BBB/sinc


e1885, what you need to do is go away and lie in a dark room for a while, select one of your signons to use and stop pretending to be three different people. It doesn't work and just makes you look a bit of a twit.
Valerie you've broken your word you said you'd never respond to one of my texts again!!!! 'A bit of a twit' ok have a look at my posts - you seem to spend a lot of time checking them- and see how many accurate posts I have actually posted. It's a shame you are the way you are.
You did say Luke Shaw was going out on loan - which given the defensive frailties of Fox and the fact Shaw has had a massive impact in our back four did seem daft.

Velleity says...
9:25pm Sun 3 Feb 13

You also said there was NO MONEY.

In case you've forgotten, you posted that under your 'Saintlysoul' pseudonym, not 'BBB' or 'since1885'.

saintlysoul says...
9:45pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Velleity wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
since 1885 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
since 1885 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
Velleity wrote:
PS. Sorry if that all sounds a bit gay.
BBB – Big Bertie B0llocks Branfoot loves sucking up to the skunt WUMS on here, but I can categorically say you are both piiiisssssssing in the wind on this one.

Their next generation will be red and white and that will send a lot of the oldies skunts to an early grave, freeing up the national debt on pensions. Our continual success is a boost to the nations GDP.

God Bless Southampton :)
Checking in with another humdinger of a post. Mush Beach you keep mentioning me in your posts, I don't know how to let you down gently but I don't swing that way. To each is own and all that, but your barking up the wrong tree with me sweetheart! But I can't help thinking that we are hogging you Mushy. Your dearest and nearest must be pining for some of your attention. We mustn't be greedy now. Good to hear from you Mushy!
So, let's be crystal clear about this:

since1885 and Bring Back Branfoot are one and the same. It's always the same - multiple signons ALWAYS get caught out using the wrong log in to answer posts aimed at another signon name.

So that's since1885, Bring Back Branfoot and saintlysoul (his more gentle alter ego) all linked. All the same idiot.

Result!
You again, I applaud pilots who can fly planes! As I was saying to Mush, reading last nights thread I was constantly been mentioned by you. As I said I ain't interested son, I'm straight. And it's Since 1885 treacle!
Valerie you are a complete and utter **** who bores people constantly talking out of your back passage!!!
Look, Saintlysoul/BBB/sinc



e1885, what you need to do is go away and lie in a dark room for a while, select one of your signons to use and stop pretending to be three different people. It doesn't work and just makes you look a bit of a twit.
Valerie you've broken your word you said you'd never respond to one of my texts again!!!! 'A bit of a twit' ok have a look at my posts - you seem to spend a lot of time checking them- and see how many accurate posts I have actually posted. It's a shame you are the way you are.
You did say Luke Shaw was going out on loan - which given the defensive frailties of Fox and the fact Shaw has had a massive impact in our back four did seem daft.
I never said Shaw was going out on loan!

saintlysoul says...
9:46pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Velleity wrote:
You also said there was NO MONEY.

In case you've forgotten, you posted that under your 'Saintlysoul' pseudonym, not 'BBB' or 'since1885'.
I don't think I was actually that wrong. Only one signing?

saintshorse101 says...
9:50pm Sun 3 Feb 13

MGRA wrote:
St.Winch70 wrote:
MGRA wrote: Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....
I won't slate your post for being negative, I see it for what it is absolute nonsense. If you think that yesterday was in anyway a tactical success for Martinez and Wigan then you are truly deluded. There was major unrest and dissatisfaction from their supporters about how they fail to keep the ball and are 'worked and harried' out of games. They were gifted a point yesterday, people who have an ounce of footballing knowledge could see that... I'm sure MP will take onboard your other points and put them into practice at Staplewood on Monday. Unbelievable some of the 'Fans' that post on this site.
you are deluded. Wigan are staying up. Anyone who knows anything about football sees this.... they are interested in POINTS.... we were out-thought AGAIN.... saints hopefully will scrape survival but Wigan gave a masterclass about how to play football at this level.. its not about possession, pretty football and how rubbish we are at scoring. Its about how to win games.... I posted before the game that wigan would get 2 out of nothing and we would have to outscore them.... this is not rocket science, we can be congratutlated for being the best footballing side ever to be relegated,but it still means we go down....."fans" are those that know the game, martinez is a clever guy, and if you are too stpid to see it you know a lot less than you though, Wigan have mugged us twice this season.... simples....
mgra, every now and again you seem to make a point that just looks right to you. we have gone over the gasto injury fiasco, on your part, enough to know this.
you now have a bee in your bonnet about wigan `outplaying` saints and rob martin being a master tactician. if you care to look at the game again you will see saints dominate the game, you will see what quick attractive football (not pretty) can do to the oppos. you seem to think that rob martin set his team up to allow us to attack at every opportunity whilst hoping to get a lucky goal or two. you seem to think that this style of football is better designed to get points, well wigan are below us in the league and are stuggling, they got lucky last year and if rob martin is the master tactician you seem to think he is do you not think he may have thought that this style of football (parking the bus) might not be the best? as others have said wigan had mosses last year, they havent got him this season. wigan may stay up because there are some very poor teams at the bottom this year but that does not mean that they play well or even out thought saints. if you think about the game before kick off then you would realise that a point is a good result for saints. a lot better than for wigan anyway.
this `pretty` football that you dont seem to like is far better way to play and will end up getting more positive results than the hoof ball that you are implying that saints should employ. i hate hoof ball with every fiber of my being and when branfoot was saints manager i didnt enjoy watching us. every team that employed this `style` of football ends up struggling as its easy to out play. west hoof only play this way and they didnt get auto promotion last season and have now been found out this season and will start to fall down the league, they may be the team that gets caught in the relegation dogfight, if not this then next. this is not a personal attack on you mgra but you cant honestly think wigan were a better team yesterday, if you do then you are in a minority of one. even rob martin said saints were the better team. i know you will still think that you are right despite many others pointing out you are not but thats you prerogative, all i will say that if everyone else including their manager and players thought that saints were better you really must accept that you might, just might, be wrong. i am not going to start name calling as i believe you have saints best interests at heart, i just wish you would take a step back from making your point and look at the bigger picture, but as i said your choice.

coyrs

slugger says...
9:52pm Sun 3 Feb 13

I think the problem starts when some say that their info is "fact" , it never is and never will be !

st1halo says...
9:56pm Sun 3 Feb 13

slugger wrote:
I think the problem starts when some say that their info is "fact" , it never is and never will be !
And thats a fact!

slugger says...
10:03pm Sun 3 Feb 13

slugger wrote:
I think the problem starts when some say that their info is "fact" , it never is and never will be !
For instance , Saintlysoul is pretty much spot on with the team selection ...... that don't make him right about tactics ........... a little knowledge is sometimes worse than none at all .

Baddesley Bill says...
10:04pm Sun 3 Feb 13

saintlysoul wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Velleity wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
since 1885 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
since 1885 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
Velleity wrote:
PS. Sorry if that all sounds a bit gay.
BBB – Big Bertie B0llocks Branfoot loves sucking up to the skunt WUMS on here, but I can categorically say you are both piiiisssssssing in the wind on this one.

Their next generation will be red and white and that will send a lot of the oldies skunts to an early grave, freeing up the national debt on pensions. Our continual success is a boost to the nations GDP.

God Bless Southampton :)
Checking in with another humdinger of a post. Mush Beach you keep mentioning me in your posts, I don't know how to let you down gently but I don't swing that way. To each is own and all that, but your barking up the wrong tree with me sweetheart! But I can't help thinking that we are hogging you Mushy. Your dearest and nearest must be pining for some of your attention. We mustn't be greedy now. Good to hear from you Mushy!
So, let's be crystal clear about this:

since1885 and Bring Back Branfoot are one and the same. It's always the same - multiple signons ALWAYS get caught out using the wrong log in to answer posts aimed at another signon name.

So that's since1885, Bring Back Branfoot and saintlysoul (his more gentle alter ego) all linked. All the same idiot.

Result!
You again, I applaud pilots who can fly planes! As I was saying to Mush, reading last nights thread I was constantly been mentioned by you. As I said I ain't interested son, I'm straight. And it's Since 1885 treacle!
Valerie you are a complete and utter **** who bores people constantly talking out of your back passage!!!
Look, Saintlysoul/BBB/sinc




e1885, what you need to do is go away and lie in a dark room for a while, select one of your signons to use and stop pretending to be three different people. It doesn't work and just makes you look a bit of a twit.
Valerie you've broken your word you said you'd never respond to one of my texts again!!!! 'A bit of a twit' ok have a look at my posts - you seem to spend a lot of time checking them- and see how many accurate posts I have actually posted. It's a shame you are the way you are.
You did say Luke Shaw was going out on loan - which given the defensive frailties of Fox and the fact Shaw has had a massive impact in our back four did seem daft.
I never said Shaw was going out on loan!
No, I don't think you did either...I think you said JWP was going out on loan.

redsnapper says...
10:08pm Sun 3 Feb 13

slugger wrote:
MGRA wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St.Winch70 wrote:
MGRA wrote:
Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....
I won't slate your post for being negative, I see it for what it is absolute nonsense.
If you think that yesterday was in anyway a tactical success for Martinez and Wigan then you are truly deluded.

There was major unrest and dissatisfaction from their supporters about how they fail to keep the ball and are 'worked and harried' out of games.
They were gifted a point yesterday, people who have an ounce of footballing knowledge could see that...
I'm sure MP will take onboard your other points and put them into practice at Staplewood on Monday.
Unbelievable some of the 'Fans' that post on this site.
you are deluded. Wigan are staying up. Anyone who knows anything about football sees this.... they are interested in POINTS.... we were out-thought AGAIN.... saints hopefully will scrape survival but Wigan gave a masterclass about how to play football at this level.. its not about possession, pretty football and how rubbish we are at scoring. Its about how to win games.... I posted before the game that wigan would get 2 out of nothing and we would have to outscore them.... this is not rocket science, we can be congratutlated for being the best footballing side ever to be relegated,but it still means we go down....."fans" are those that know the game, martinez is a clever guy, and if you are too stpid to see it you know a lot less than you though, Wigan have mugged us twice this season.... simples....
MGRA...you are just looking to pick an arguement for no particular reason again.

Just as well part of the Wigan game plan was to let us take the lead during our period of dominance.

Master tactician that Martinez.
no argument. Just want to be realistic. Wigan were the better side on Saturday, they know how to cater for the oppostion and they will stay up , against the odds, again. I love watching attacking football as much as the next guy but we have not got the edge up front to convert it as this level. We need to mix flair with a bit of thinking and its clear we are not a team that can pace the game for 90 minutes. I am not sure what is so controversial here, its obvious stuff isn't it ?
Every now and again I agree with a post you make , the rest of the time ....................

..
MGRA is one thick mudderfokka . He gets an idea in his single cell and from that point on there is nothing that any1 can say against it.

SFC will be above Wigan at the end because tactically, individually and collectively the squad is better equipped and performances against Arsenal Everton MUFC and yesterday are proof positive that we are improving all the time and most of our supporters right behind them.

Apart from a few born miserable bar stewards like this muddafokka.

slugger says...
10:08pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Baddesley Bill wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Velleity wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
since 1885 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
since 1885 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
Velleity wrote:
PS. Sorry if that all sounds a bit gay.
BBB – Big Bertie B0llocks Branfoot loves sucking up to the skunt WUMS on here, but I can categorically say you are both piiiisssssssing in the wind on this one.

Their next generation will be red and white and that will send a lot of the oldies skunts to an early grave, freeing up the national debt on pensions. Our continual success is a boost to the nations GDP.

God Bless Southampton :)
Checking in with another humdinger of a post. Mush Beach you keep mentioning me in your posts, I don't know how to let you down gently but I don't swing that way. To each is own and all that, but your barking up the wrong tree with me sweetheart! But I can't help thinking that we are hogging you Mushy. Your dearest and nearest must be pining for some of your attention. We mustn't be greedy now. Good to hear from you Mushy!
So, let's be crystal clear about this:

since1885 and Bring Back Branfoot are one and the same. It's always the same - multiple signons ALWAYS get caught out using the wrong log in to answer posts aimed at another signon name.

So that's since1885, Bring Back Branfoot and saintlysoul (his more gentle alter ego) all linked. All the same idiot.

Result!
You again, I applaud pilots who can fly planes! As I was saying to Mush, reading last nights thread I was constantly been mentioned by you. As I said I ain't interested son, I'm straight. And it's Since 1885 treacle!
Valerie you are a complete and utter **** who bores people constantly talking out of your back passage!!!
Look, Saintlysoul/BBB/sinc





e1885, what you need to do is go away and lie in a dark room for a while, select one of your signons to use and stop pretending to be three different people. It doesn't work and just makes you look a bit of a twit.
Valerie you've broken your word you said you'd never respond to one of my texts again!!!! 'A bit of a twit' ok have a look at my posts - you seem to spend a lot of time checking them- and see how many accurate posts I have actually posted. It's a shame you are the way you are.
You did say Luke Shaw was going out on loan - which given the defensive frailties of Fox and the fact Shaw has had a massive impact in our back four did seem daft.
I never said Shaw was going out on loan!
No, I don't think you did either...I think you said JWP was going out on loan.
I'm starting to wonder whether he's JWP's dad or something ....... he does bang on about him a bit .

J7junctionseven says...
10:14pm Sun 3 Feb 13

It all sounds like a load of old bo77ocks to me.
Win 4, draw 5, lose 4.
41 points job done.
COYR

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
10:16pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Baddesley Bill wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Velleity wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
since 1885 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
since 1885 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
Velleity wrote:
PS. Sorry if that all sounds a bit gay.
BBB – Big Bertie B0llocks Branfoot loves sucking up to the skunt WUMS on here, but I can categorically say you are both piiiisssssssing in the wind on this one.

Their next generation will be red and white and that will send a lot of the oldies skunts to an early grave, freeing up the national debt on pensions. Our continual success is a boost to the nations GDP.

God Bless Southampton :)
Checking in with another humdinger of a post. Mush Beach you keep mentioning me in your posts, I don't know how to let you down gently but I don't swing that way. To each is own and all that, but your barking up the wrong tree with me sweetheart! But I can't help thinking that we are hogging you Mushy. Your dearest and nearest must be pining for some of your attention. We mustn't be greedy now. Good to hear from you Mushy!
So, let's be crystal clear about this:

since1885 and Bring Back Branfoot are one and the same. It's always the same - multiple signons ALWAYS get caught out using the wrong log in to answer posts aimed at another signon name.

So that's since1885, Bring Back Branfoot and saintlysoul (his more gentle alter ego) all linked. All the same idiot.

Result!
You again, I applaud pilots who can fly planes! As I was saying to Mush, reading last nights thread I was constantly been mentioned by you. As I said I ain't interested son, I'm straight. And it's Since 1885 treacle!
Valerie you are a complete and utter **** who bores people constantly talking out of your back passage!!!
Look, Saintlysoul/BBB/sinc





e1885, what you need to do is go away and lie in a dark room for a while, select one of your signons to use and stop pretending to be three different people. It doesn't work and just makes you look a bit of a twit.
Valerie you've broken your word you said you'd never respond to one of my texts again!!!! 'A bit of a twit' ok have a look at my posts - you seem to spend a lot of time checking them- and see how many accurate posts I have actually posted. It's a shame you are the way you are.
You did say Luke Shaw was going out on loan - which given the defensive frailties of Fox and the fact Shaw has had a massive impact in our back four did seem daft.
I never said Shaw was going out on loan!
No, I don't think you did either...I think you said JWP was going out on loan.
My bad.

MGRA says...
10:23pm Sun 3 Feb 13

saintshorse101 wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St.Winch70 wrote:
MGRA wrote: Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....
I won't slate your post for being negative, I see it for what it is absolute nonsense. If you think that yesterday was in anyway a tactical success for Martinez and Wigan then you are truly deluded. There was major unrest and dissatisfaction from their supporters about how they fail to keep the ball and are 'worked and harried' out of games. They were gifted a point yesterday, people who have an ounce of footballing knowledge could see that... I'm sure MP will take onboard your other points and put them into practice at Staplewood on Monday. Unbelievable some of the 'Fans' that post on this site.
you are deluded. Wigan are staying up. Anyone who knows anything about football sees this.... they are interested in POINTS.... we were out-thought AGAIN.... saints hopefully will scrape survival but Wigan gave a masterclass about how to play football at this level.. its not about possession, pretty football and how rubbish we are at scoring. Its about how to win games.... I posted before the game that wigan would get 2 out of nothing and we would have to outscore them.... this is not rocket science, we can be congratutlated for being the best footballing side ever to be relegated,but it still means we go down....."fans" are those that know the game, martinez is a clever guy, and if you are too stpid to see it you know a lot less than you though, Wigan have mugged us twice this season.... simples....
mgra, every now and again you seem to make a point that just looks right to you. we have gone over the gasto injury fiasco, on your part, enough to know this.
you now have a bee in your bonnet about wigan `outplaying` saints and rob martin being a master tactician. if you care to look at the game again you will see saints dominate the game, you will see what quick attractive football (not pretty) can do to the oppos. you seem to think that rob martin set his team up to allow us to attack at every opportunity whilst hoping to get a lucky goal or two. you seem to think that this style of football is better designed to get points, well wigan are below us in the league and are stuggling, they got lucky last year and if rob martin is the master tactician you seem to think he is do you not think he may have thought that this style of football (parking the bus) might not be the best? as others have said wigan had mosses last year, they havent got him this season. wigan may stay up because there are some very poor teams at the bottom this year but that does not mean that they play well or even out thought saints. if you think about the game before kick off then you would realise that a point is a good result for saints. a lot better than for wigan anyway.
this `pretty` football that you dont seem to like is far better way to play and will end up getting more positive results than the hoof ball that you are implying that saints should employ. i hate hoof ball with every fiber of my being and when branfoot was saints manager i didnt enjoy watching us. every team that employed this `style` of football ends up struggling as its easy to out play. west hoof only play this way and they didnt get auto promotion last season and have now been found out this season and will start to fall down the league, they may be the team that gets caught in the relegation dogfight, if not this then next. this is not a personal attack on you mgra but you cant honestly think wigan were a better team yesterday, if you do then you are in a minority of one. even rob martin said saints were the better team. i know you will still think that you are right despite many others pointing out you are not but thats you prerogative, all i will say that if everyone else including their manager and players thought that saints were better you really must accept that you might, just might, be wrong. i am not going to start name calling as i believe you have saints best interests at heart, i just wish you would take a step back from making your point and look at the bigger picture, but as i said your choice.

coyrs
they are not a better team. But their manager is a better tactician. They will not go down. We did not "dominate" the game, the game is about winning and points, so we did not by definition. They have 4 out of 6 points against us. We have 1 out of 6. They will not go down, we hope not to. Not many will debate this with me because they know I am right on this..... and I would rather be wrong on this....

Baddesley Bill says...
10:25pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Velleity wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
since 1885 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
since 1885 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
Velleity wrote:
PS. Sorry if that all sounds a bit gay.
BBB – Big Bertie B0llocks Branfoot loves sucking up to the skunt WUMS on here, but I can categorically say you are both piiiisssssssing in the wind on this one.

Their next generation will be red and white and that will send a lot of the oldies skunts to an early grave, freeing up the national debt on pensions. Our continual success is a boost to the nations GDP.

God Bless Southampton :)
Checking in with another humdinger of a post. Mush Beach you keep mentioning me in your posts, I don't know how to let you down gently but I don't swing that way. To each is own and all that, but your barking up the wrong tree with me sweetheart! But I can't help thinking that we are hogging you Mushy. Your dearest and nearest must be pining for some of your attention. We mustn't be greedy now. Good to hear from you Mushy!
So, let's be crystal clear about this:

since1885 and Bring Back Branfoot are one and the same. It's always the same - multiple signons ALWAYS get caught out using the wrong log in to answer posts aimed at another signon name.

So that's since1885, Bring Back Branfoot and saintlysoul (his more gentle alter ego) all linked. All the same idiot.

Result!
You again, I applaud pilots who can fly planes! As I was saying to Mush, reading last nights thread I was constantly been mentioned by you. As I said I ain't interested son, I'm straight. And it's Since 1885 treacle!
Valerie you are a complete and utter **** who bores people constantly talking out of your back passage!!!
Look, Saintlysoul/BBB/sinc






e1885, what you need to do is go away and lie in a dark room for a while, select one of your signons to use and stop pretending to be three different people. It doesn't work and just makes you look a bit of a twit.
Valerie you've broken your word you said you'd never respond to one of my texts again!!!! 'A bit of a twit' ok have a look at my posts - you seem to spend a lot of time checking them- and see how many accurate posts I have actually posted. It's a shame you are the way you are.
You did say Luke Shaw was going out on loan - which given the defensive frailties of Fox and the fact Shaw has had a massive impact in our back four did seem daft.
I never said Shaw was going out on loan!
No, I don't think you did either...I think you said JWP was going out on loan.
My bad.
When did JWP go out on loan?....sure I saw him come on yesterday! ;O)

Baddesley Bill says...
10:26pm Sun 3 Feb 13

MGRA wrote:
saintshorse101 wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St.Winch70 wrote:
MGRA wrote: Can I just point out that we did NOT dominate the game yesterday. We played right into Wigan's game plan. They are perfectly happy to let the oppostion wack themselves out and are sufficiently confident that they can weather the storm and get something from the game. They have done it to us twice with different managers not seeming to have the tactical nowse to work that out. There is nothing wrong with letting the home game have ore of the ball and pacing yourselves for 90 minutes. This is where Saints let themselves down and it needs fixing fast. Otherwise we will drop. Wigan will not and they have one of the best tacticians in the game as manager on pretty limited resources. The trouble is we have a team that is only really confident when push into the final third and that a Prem team does not make. This post may get slated for being "negative" but it certainly is not.Its just pointing out what for many is already obvious and worrying. Nigel is history so there is not point harking back but he was getting us laying better football with more patience in the middle third and was coaching the team to drop the pace more. So that aspect of the game really needs to return asap....
I won't slate your post for being negative, I see it for what it is absolute nonsense. If you think that yesterday was in anyway a tactical success for Martinez and Wigan then you are truly deluded. There was major unrest and dissatisfaction from their supporters about how they fail to keep the ball and are 'worked and harried' out of games. They were gifted a point yesterday, people who have an ounce of footballing knowledge could see that... I'm sure MP will take onboard your other points and put them into practice at Staplewood on Monday. Unbelievable some of the 'Fans' that post on this site.
you are deluded. Wigan are staying up. Anyone who knows anything about football sees this.... they are interested in POINTS.... we were out-thought AGAIN.... saints hopefully will scrape survival but Wigan gave a masterclass about how to play football at this level.. its not about possession, pretty football and how rubbish we are at scoring. Its about how to win games.... I posted before the game that wigan would get 2 out of nothing and we would have to outscore them.... this is not rocket science, we can be congratutlated for being the best footballing side ever to be relegated,but it still means we go down....."fans" are those that know the game, martinez is a clever guy, and if you are too stpid to see it you know a lot less than you though, Wigan have mugged us twice this season.... simples....
mgra, every now and again you seem to make a point that just looks right to you. we have gone over the gasto injury fiasco, on your part, enough to know this.
you now have a bee in your bonnet about wigan `outplaying` saints and rob martin being a master tactician. if you care to look at the game again you will see saints dominate the game, you will see what quick attractive football (not pretty) can do to the oppos. you seem to think that rob martin set his team up to allow us to attack at every opportunity whilst hoping to get a lucky goal or two. you seem to think that this style of football is better designed to get points, well wigan are below us in the league and are stuggling, they got lucky last year and if rob martin is the master tactician you seem to think he is do you not think he may have thought that this style of football (parking the bus) might not be the best? as others have said wigan had mosses last year, they havent got him this season. wigan may stay up because there are some very poor teams at the bottom this year but that does not mean that they play well or even out thought saints. if you think about the game before kick off then you would realise that a point is a good result for saints. a lot better than for wigan anyway.
this `pretty` football that you dont seem to like is far better way to play and will end up getting more positive results than the hoof ball that you are implying that saints should employ. i hate hoof ball with every fiber of my being and when branfoot was saints manager i didnt enjoy watching us. every team that employed this `style` of football ends up struggling as its easy to out play. west hoof only play this way and they didnt get auto promotion last season and have now been found out this season and will start to fall down the league, they may be the team that gets caught in the relegation dogfight, if not this then next. this is not a personal attack on you mgra but you cant honestly think wigan were a better team yesterday, if you do then you are in a minority of one. even rob martin said saints were the better team. i know you will still think that you are right despite many others pointing out you are not but thats you prerogative, all i will say that if everyone else including their manager and players thought that saints were better you really must accept that you might, just might, be wrong. i am not going to start name calling as i believe you have saints best interests at heart, i just wish you would take a step back from making your point and look at the bigger picture, but as i said your choice.

coyrs
they are not a better team. But their manager is a better tactician. They will not go down. We did not "dominate" the game, the game is about winning and points, so we did not by definition. They have 4 out of 6 points against us. We have 1 out of 6. They will not go down, we hope not to. Not many will debate this with me because they know I am right on this..... and I would rather be wrong on this....
yawn

saintlysoul says...
10:31pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
Velleity wrote:
saintlysoul wrote:
since 1885 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
since 1885 wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
Velleity wrote:
PS. Sorry if that all sounds a bit gay.
BBB – Big Bertie B0llocks Branfoot loves sucking up to the skunt WUMS on here, but I can categorically say you are both piiiisssssssing in the wind on this one.

Their next generation will be red and white and that will send a lot of the oldies skunts to an early grave, freeing up the national debt on pensions. Our continual success is a boost to the nations GDP.

God Bless Southampton :)
Checking in with another humdinger of a post. Mush Beach you keep mentioning me in your posts, I don't know how to let you down gently but I don't swing that way. To each is own and all that, but your barking up the wrong tree with me sweetheart! But I can't help thinking that we are hogging you Mushy. Your dearest and nearest must be pining for some of your attention. We mustn't be greedy now. Good to hear from you Mushy!
So, let's be crystal clear about this:

since1885 and Bring Back Branfoot are one and the same. It's always the same - multiple signons ALWAYS get caught out using the wrong log in to answer posts aimed at another signon name.

So that's since1885, Bring Back Branfoot and saintlysoul (his more gentle alter ego) all linked. All the same idiot.

Result!
You again, I applaud pilots who can fly planes! As I was saying to Mush, reading last nights thread I was constantly been mentioned by you. As I said I ain't interested son, I'm straight. And it's Since 1885 treacle!
Valerie you are a complete and utter **** who bores people constantly talking out of your back passage!!!
Look, Saintlysoul/BBB/sinc







e1885, what you need to do is go away and lie in a dark room for a while, select one of your signons to use and stop pretending to be three different people. It doesn't work and just makes you look a bit of a twit.
Valerie you've broken your word you said you'd never respond to one of my texts again!!!! 'A bit of a twit' ok have a look at my posts - you seem to spend a lot of time checking them- and see how many accurate posts I have actually posted. It's a shame you are the way you are.
You did say Luke Shaw was going out on loan - which given the defensive frailties of Fox and the fact Shaw has had a massive impact in our back four did seem daft.
I never said Shaw was going out on loan!
No, I don't think you did either...I think you said JWP was going out on loan.
My bad.
When did JWP go out on loan?....sure I saw him come on yesterday! ;O)
I'd said if Shaw and JWP weren't going to be played then I'd like to see them go out on loan. JWP did come in yesterday for Puncheon

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...
10:32pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Baddesley Bill wrote: