Saints to fight Benali court case

Francis Benali

Francis Benali

by Gordon Simpson , Senior Sports Reporter 8:06am Thursday 7th February 2013 in Sport

Saints have promised to “rigorously defend” themselves against legal action being brought by the club’s former player, Francis Benali.

Benali, who made more than 350 appearances during his Saints career, is suing the club over a “lease dispute and lost ambassadorial fees”.

Saints confirmed the action in a statement relating to the cancellation of a meeting between chairman Nicola Cortese and ex-player Matt Le Tissier.

The club called off the proposed talks, which had been reported yesterday, after Le Tissier spoke publicly about them.

Le Tissier had revealed he planned to speak to Cortese about Benali, who he said is “banned from the football club”.

Saints, in their statement, said: “Mr Le Tissier refers to his friend Francis Benali having the best interests of the club at heart, while neglecting to mention that the same person is currently suing Southampton Football Club in relation to a lease dispute and lost ambassadorial fees.

“It is a legal action the club will be defending rigorously in the best interests of the club and its reputation.”

Benali was unavailable for comment.

Le Tissier, who has been publicly critical of Cortese, had been due to meet the chairman at the end of the month, with Saints telling him the venue would probably be in London.

However, after confirming to the Daily Echo that talks were due to take place and discussing what he hoped to achieve from them, the club announced the meeting was being cancelled.

Saints accused Le Tissier of “a breach of good faith”.

The club’s statement, in full, read: “A meeting was organised between Nicola Cortese, the club’s executive chairman, and Matthew Le Tissier in what the club believed was good faith.

“Both parties had agreed that it would be a private meeting with no publicity surrounding it, yet within 24 hours this matter was put in the public domain and further negative comments attributed to Mr Le Tissier have appeared (yesterday) morning.

“As an ex-player, Mr Le Tissier’s achievements are well known.

“However, his repeated criticisms over a prolonged period of time are not justified and have not merited any response from the club. Nor has the motive for these personal attacks ever been made entirely clear.

“Mr Cortese wishes to reiterate that he will not make comment about somebody he does not know personally – and that includes Mr Le Tissier.

“These criticisms have not affected the club’s success and progress on or off the pitch in recent years and will not divert the club from its course in the future.

“For Mr Le Tissier to agree to meet ‘in good faith’ and then make such comments can only be seen as a breach of good faith and certainly not in the best interests of the club.

“Mr Le Tissier also refers to his friend Francis Benali having the best interests of the club at heart, while neglecting to mention that the same person is currently suing Southampton Football Club in relation to a lease dispute and lost ambassadorial fees.

“It is a legal action the club will be defending rigorously in the best interests of the club and its reputation.

“In all the circumstances and in light of the comments attributed to Mr Le Tissier, the club believes that it is now not possible for the above mentioned meeting to take place in good faith.

“We would nevertheless encourage Mr Le Tissier to join with our fans and continue to enjoy the success the club has achieved over the last three-and-a-half years.

“The club now considers this matter closed and will not be making any further comment about it.”

Le Tissier said on his Twitter page that he was not surprised the meeting had been cancelled.

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8:13am Thu 7 Feb 13 Little Hitler says…

This is pretty much the last article but with a different title.

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8:14am Thu 7 Feb 13 since 1885 says…

Some of us are still behind you and Tiss Franny. We ain't all mercenaries! You're Southampton through and through son!

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8:41am Thu 7 Feb 13 tomw1234 says…

since 1885 wrote…

Some of us are still behind you and Tiss Franny. We ain't all mercenaries! You're Southampton through and through son!

You'll find many fans that love Le Tiss but you wont find many that believe he's right to attack the club with his childish and unsubstantiated comments on Twitter and The Echo. Cortese has every right to ban Benali and has every right to cancel the meeting as Le Tiss went spouting off to the media at the first opportunity. Stupid man.

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8:42am Thu 7 Feb 13 thingummy says…

What a mess for every one concerned.

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8:42am Thu 7 Feb 13 rednwhite72 says…

Yep same story from a totally different perspective, and has no bearing on this matter. Frannie and the club have a legal dispute, obviously why Frannie is not available to comment. I can understand NC point of view when it comes to the media, things do get taken out of context for the benefit of a better story for the papers. Fella's do us all a favour, sort it out in private, all you have to tells us is that you have shaken hands and the matter is closed...!

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8:44am Thu 7 Feb 13 MGRA says…

thingummy wrote…

What a mess for every one concerned.

agreed. totally pathetic. It shows how priorites can get so far out of wack. Sort it out Saints, the club is becoming a laughing stock....

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8:45am Thu 7 Feb 13 elvisimo says…

Move on. Do we need ex employees stirring things up like this? Matt, absolute god but you have a serious problem keeping you mouth shut. The Franny comment from the club, very interesting need more facts though.

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8:57am Thu 7 Feb 13 pollthom says…

I have it on good authority, that Cortese rented a house from Benali when he first came to England. Cortese proceeded to carry out works to the house without permission. The house was left looking like a building site. This is why Benali has taken court action.

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9:00am Thu 7 Feb 13 Alicesdad says…

Just checking.. it is Thursday isn't it? Is it Groundhog Day ? I swear I read all this yesterday. Exactly the same words in a different order. Is there any news today?

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9:02am Thu 7 Feb 13 Ross123 says…

tomw1234 wrote…

since 1885 wrote…

Some of us are still behind you and Tiss Franny. We ain't all mercenaries! You're Southampton through and through son!
You'll find many fans that love Le Tiss but you wont find many that believe he's right to attack the club with his childish and unsubstantiated comments on Twitter and The Echo. Cortese has every right to ban Benali and has every right to cancel the meeting as Le Tiss went spouting off to the media at the first opportunity. Stupid man.

im on le tissiers and frans side. they both belong to the club. cortese treating people like crap again!

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9:11am Thu 7 Feb 13 elvisimo says…

Ross123 wrote…

tomw1234 wrote…

since 1885 wrote…

Some of us are still behind you and Tiss Franny. We ain't all mercenaries! You're Southampton through and through son!
You'll find many fans that love Le Tiss but you wont find many that believe he's right to attack the club with his childish and unsubstantiated comments on Twitter and The Echo. Cortese has every right to ban Benali and has every right to cancel the meeting as Le Tiss went spouting off to the media at the first opportunity. Stupid man.
im on le tissiers and frans side. they both belong to the club. cortese treating people like crap again!

Everyone like to hate a Villan. The fact is we have no evidence that Cortese is this "bad" man. He goes about his business, doest rise to rediculous stories and seems to conduct himself pretty well. All we hear on this site is hearsay and "my mate heard" etc etc. No reals facts. The fact that it was MLT mouth that bought the Benalli issue to the forefront backs this up. Leave the guy alone. On this issue Matt has behaved like an attention seeking idiot.

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9:16am Thu 7 Feb 13 Sainty saint saint says…

Ross123 wrote…

tomw1234 wrote…

since 1885 wrote…

Some of us are still behind you and Tiss Franny. We ain't all mercenaries! You're Southampton through and through son!
You'll find many fans that love Le Tiss but you wont find many that believe he's right to attack the club with his childish and unsubstantiated comments on Twitter and The Echo. Cortese has every right to ban Benali and has every right to cancel the meeting as Le Tiss went spouting off to the media at the first opportunity. Stupid man.
im on le tissiers and frans side. they both belong to the club. cortese treating people like crap again!

"Cortese treating people like crap again"? How so? He agreed to a meeting as long as it remained private, Le Tiss got mouthy about it in the media, so Cortese withdrew his invitation (quite politely). I can't see how that's 'treating people like crap' - unless you're determined to view it that way.

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9:33am Thu 7 Feb 13 lemon cake says…

pollthom wrote…

I have it on good authority, that Cortese rented a house from Benali when he first came to England. Cortese proceeded to carry out works to the house without permission. The house was left looking like a building site. This is why Benali has taken court action.

Then surly it is a Benali vs Cortese case rather then a Benali Vs SFC case?? I think that Matt is in a LeTiss because Cortese beat his consortem in buying saints and its sour grapes from his part. Even if we won the league, had a £100million profit per season, had Messi and Ronaldo in our team I think letiss would still critise 'The Don' saying hes running the club into the ground. Get over it Matt and let us think of you as our childhood hero rather then a someone trying to upset the apple cart. Some things i dont agree with at SFC but for the majority of Corteses reign he has dont an excellent job. Prem in 5 yrs he said, we did it in 3...and we have a superb youth set-up and a ever improving team that has pretty much stayed together (for the most part) since league 1 therefore im happy.

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9:34am Thu 7 Feb 13 franiow says…

The argument about the house is apparently that SFC claim the deposit covers any damage caused. Originally reported that a carpet was replaced with a wood floor...now story getting added to...few of us know, so best not to speculate. As for the ambassadorial contracts, several players were on big money they were still drawing when we were in administration with no money. Contracts cancelled when Markus took over, so grounds for a legal dispute. Benali knows he is best served by silence and letting the courts decide. Tiss is entitled to his opinion, but as a public figure he should be careful what he says.

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9:34am Thu 7 Feb 13 RedArmy1 says…

DE - Let's get the Footballing FIGHT on the back pages. WE ARE ST MARY'S. WE PACK THE STADIUM TO WIN against city. WE OWE THEM. Call to Former Players - Get back to basics - the hostility of the DELL culture ON THE TERRACES HOME AND AWAY AND FIGHT + WIN. SEE YOU AT NEWCASTLE AWAY ! ! WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR

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9:34am Thu 7 Feb 13 InCortesewetrust says…

pollthom wrote…

I have it on good authority, that Cortese rented a house from Benali when he first came to England. Cortese proceeded to carry out works to the house without permission. The house was left looking like a building site. This is why Benali has taken court action.

What's that got to do with the price of fish in China? It's got nothing to do with Southampton fc, why dose franny take Southampton fc to court? Lost ambassadorial roll fee's? He is probably not know outside of Hampshire, promote a club in its own county? Well worth the money, who is franny? A less than average player who stayed at saints because no one else wanted him, as for le tizz well he is shown little respect for Southampton fc, cortese and himself,

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9:45am Thu 7 Feb 13 pollthom says…

InCortesewetrust wrote…

pollthom wrote…

I have it on good authority, that Cortese rented a house from Benali when he first came to England. Cortese proceeded to carry out works to the house without permission. The house was left looking like a building site. This is why Benali has taken court action.
What's that got to do with the price of fish in China? It's got nothing to do with Southampton fc, why dose franny take Southampton fc to court? Lost ambassadorial roll fee's? He is probably not know outside of Hampshire, promote a club in its own county? Well worth the money, who is franny? A less than average player who stayed at saints because no one else wanted him, as for le tizz well he is shown little respect for Southampton fc, cortese and himself,

I believe the house was rented by SFC for Cortese. This is why Benali is banned from St Mary's. Benali may well have been average, but always put in 100% unlike some of the other players of that yesteryear.

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9:46am Thu 7 Feb 13 franiow says…

Franny was a whole-hearted player for Saints, so won't criticise him on a football front. I was there when Franny scored! I don't know where you stand when your employer is taken over...suspect it varies with type of contract. I have heard (again hearsay) that ex-players carried on taking money when fans were fundraising. Or perhaps they didn't and Benali now considers it a debt that should have been paid on takeover (as all other debts were paid). It will all become clear in court. The court case about the house involves SFC as they no doubt took out the contract...quite common for temporary houses to be rented for executives and other emloyees. Until quite recently the club rented houses at Ocean Village for newly arrived players.

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9:47am Thu 7 Feb 13 alan.of.eastleigh says…

Crikey me, calm down people. We don't need to take sides on this. We just have to support the team on the pitch. Thank you Cortese for all you've done these last three and a half years. Thank you Le Tiss for hundreds of wonderful memories. Thank you Frannie for being such a warrier on the field and a true gentleman off it. Now let's move on. Quietly.

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9:48am Thu 7 Feb 13 OSPREYSAINT says…

If there is a Court case, we shouldn't even be discussing it, unless you have some evidence for or against, in which case we aren't the right people that you should be talking to. Best let it run its course and let the judiciary decide who is right or wrong then perhaps we can make our feelings known with the knowledge that we aren't all talking out of our rear ends, like so many on here these days.

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9:58am Thu 7 Feb 13 One Heart....One Vision says…

To be honest, it's not wonder the meeting was cancelled with this schoolboy immature unprofessional MEDIA CIRCUS alledgely supporting our Club? We can now appreciate how fully Professional our Club is. The Echo must be desperate to sell papers...scrapping the barrell? What a Pavolova !!!

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10:05am Thu 7 Feb 13 redsnapper says…

MGRA wrote…

thingummy wrote…

What a mess for every one concerned.
agreed. totally pathetic. It shows how priorites can get so far out of wack. Sort it out Saints, the club is becoming a laughing stock....

Wrong it is some explayers and one ex mgr and this newspaper, which are more of a laughing stock as they forage around for stories which are often so far removed from anything the club is trying to acheive. The consistent message from the club is that they have a plan and serious ambition and nothing should distract from this. Pitiful strops like this, which make it to print just show you how far away from the St Marys and reality, the Daily Echo has become. A very poor reflection on the sports editor and his team.

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10:09am Thu 7 Feb 13 Dickosfc says…

What a load of sh!t stirring cr@p from The Echo!! I swear it’s their aim to divide support at every opportunity they get. Can’t we stick to supporting and debating the team FFS!! If they think a p0xy meeting between Le Tiss and Cortese is going to make me buy a paper then they are well and truly wrong. Couldn’t give a flying fu*k! Le Tiss is and will always be a legend and Cortese in my opinion is doing a cracking job with the team I support. Get over it Gordon! STID

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10:12am Thu 7 Feb 13 Confucious says…

One Heart....One Vision wrote…

To be honest, it's not wonder the meeting was cancelled with this schoolboy immature unprofessional MEDIA CIRCUS alledgely supporting our Club? We can now appreciate how fully Professional our Club is. The Echo must be desperate to sell papers...scrapping the barrell? What a Pavolova !!!

If Matt hadn't given the Echo the story on a plate by revealing he had a meeting arranged with Cortese and then by throwing in the Benali stuff for good measure, the lead story would have been the Citeh match. The coverage does the club and supporter morale no good at all. But it does attract a lot of attention to Matt whose new celeb career feeds on publicity. It really does sadden me to say so, but Matt could learn from Cortese who seems to know the precise psychological moment when to say nothing. They should sort it out quickly. My wife and I always come to terms very fast. Hers.

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10:26am Thu 7 Feb 13 Bring back Branfoot says…

Enough already! I wish the Echo and the fans would get off this story! Matty and the club are the only ones who lose out in this. Matty's reputation has taken a dent over this, there is a distinct smell of sour grapes! And the club just doesn't need this soap opera when the season is still playing out. The whole situation is very sad and unnecessary. I love Matty but him and the fans kicking up a fuss are only hurting the club. What's to be gained? Nicola could care less how he comes out of it. Put the club first! If you don't like NC because of the Adkins stuff get over it already and let's move forward! Btw I'm glad so many of the fans are adopting a sensible approach to this silliness and are advising Matty to cut it out. That's putting the club first!

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10:28am Thu 7 Feb 13 EricMartin'sHat says…

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzz wake me up at 5:30pm on Saturday!

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10:29am Thu 7 Feb 13 JohnItaly says…

Whatever the rights and wrongs of this case it is a situation that whatever the outcome it will be seen by the tabloids as Goliath against David and we all know where the pubic sympathies will lie. Southampton FC and its reputation will be the loser irrespective of the Court's decision. For eveyones sake this matter should be settled out of court as quickly as possible.

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10:34am Thu 7 Feb 13 Bring back Branfoot says…

JohnItaly wrote…

Whatever the rights and wrongs of this case it is a situation that whatever the outcome it will be seen by the tabloids as Goliath against David and we all know where the pubic sympathies will lie. Southampton FC and its reputation will be the loser irrespective of the Court's decision. For eveyones sake this matter should be settled out of court as quickly as possible.

Here here!

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10:36am Thu 7 Feb 13 Linesman says…

Sainty saint saint wrote…

Ross123 wrote…

tomw1234 wrote…

since 1885 wrote…

Some of us are still behind you and Tiss Franny. We ain't all mercenaries! You're Southampton through and through son!
You'll find many fans that love Le Tiss but you wont find many that believe he's right to attack the club with his childish and unsubstantiated comments on Twitter and The Echo. Cortese has every right to ban Benali and has every right to cancel the meeting as Le Tiss went spouting off to the media at the first opportunity. Stupid man.
im on le tissiers and frans side. they both belong to the club. cortese treating people like crap again!
"Cortese treating people like crap again"? How so? He agreed to a meeting as long as it remained private, Le Tiss got mouthy about it in the media, so Cortese withdrew his invitation (quite politely). I can't see how that's 'treating people like crap' - unless you're determined to view it that way.

But we only have Cortese's word that both parties had agreed that the proposed meeting should be private, with no publicity. So far we have a situation where there is a dispute between a person who has said that he would meet with fans, but appears to have ducked every opportunity, and persons who have said that they would meet with fans, and have done so.

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10:36am Thu 7 Feb 13 Norwegian Saint says…

Oooooo... you said this... Oooooo... but you said that... Sorry guys, you are both a brilliant part of Saints folklore but please... please... SHUT UP AND GET ON WITH!!! Or (in the voice of Mr Harry Hill)... FIIIIIIIGHT!!!!

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10:39am Thu 7 Feb 13 rocketone says…

Once again DE can not allow the truth or fans reaction interfere with their vendetta against Saints. They did a vote and most people agreed that Cortese's was right in this instance. So quote the facts from a different angle and headline as if the club are hounding Franny. In this instance, again. The Echo are way out of line. Why are they surprised their readership has dropped? When the senior editor was relieved of his duties there was a deafening silence, unlike the same incident with Nigel which they still bring up regularly.

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10:41am Thu 7 Feb 13 hedge end bob says…

alan.of.eastleigh wrote…

Crikey me, calm down people. We don't need to take sides on this. We just have to support the team on the pitch. Thank you Cortese for all you've done these last three and a half years. Thank you Le Tiss for hundreds of wonderful memories. Thank you Frannie for being such a warrier on the field and a true gentleman off it. Now let's move on. Quietly.

Best post today so far. A very few people know the truth and certainly not this arse wipe of a paper. Instead of trying to build a working reationship with the club they reprint the same old cr@p under different headlines. This to me seems the right way to go about getting yourself barred for life from St Mary's. They in turn, turn fans against each other. We all love the players of the past who done their job on the field. But that dont mean we have to take sides in any other matters that arise between them and the club. May i suggest that those that dont want to stand shoulder to shoulder with the club, take a look at themselfs andsee if they really want to support the club or go drinking with playes of the past. I will not be buying this arse wipe anymore until they stop using the power of the press in their persucusion of SOUTHAMPTON FOOTBALL CLUB. SATID.

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10:43am Thu 7 Feb 13 loosehead says…

If it's true it was Cortese who rented a house from Benali why is benali suing the club? why isn't this a legal action against just Cortese? what has ambassadorial got t6o do with a house? Benali & LeTissier owe there whole standing in life through the Saints. Benali was cr+p LeTissier brilliant. what teams came in with high offers for Benali? How can anyone say he's Saints through & through when he's suing the Saints?

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10:45am Thu 7 Feb 13 saintysaintsaint says…

So, Le Tis and Benali can't get their own way, again, and they involve everyone else. No one else would expect free stuff from their former employers, especially after publicly speaking out against them. Le Tis and Benali reek of jealousy, thank you for what you did for the club, but it's time for you to both f off

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10:47am Thu 7 Feb 13 Bring back Branfoot says…

loosehead wrote…

If it's true it was Cortese who rented a house from Benali why is benali suing the club? why isn't this a legal action against just Cortese? what has ambassadorial got t6o do with a house? Benali & LeTissier owe there whole standing in life through the Saints. Benali was cr+p LeTissier brilliant. what teams came in with high offers for Benali? How can anyone say he's Saints through & through when he's suing the Saints?

Franny wasn't a great left back but the times he played centre back he was surprisingly good. A great man marker as I remember!

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10:48am Thu 7 Feb 13 seven777. says…

Just an observation, in the top four stories only one is about football. over 400 comments but only three about football.

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11:03am Thu 7 Feb 13 ToastyTea says…

since 1885 wrote…

Some of us are still behind you and Tiss Franny. We ain't all mercenaries! You're Southampton through and through son!

hear hear mate, these people bad mouthing matt and franny are a disgrace. they gave me some of the best times of my life at the dell and nothing (not even the dark lord) can take that away and change my opinion of them.

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11:04am Thu 7 Feb 13 milton road says…

At the end of the day NC and NA have my full support. NC a big thank you for the way you have pulled this club up. NA thank you for the fantastic job you did for us and will watch the results wherever you go sadly not with us. Please be sure not to get involved in fish paste. MLT fantastic years with the club respect to that and the loyalty. Your gob is making you look like a petty vindictive individual. That is not the guy I met and talked to on occasion. Please back off, its your credibility that is being damaged. FB a good solid pro for the club. Always 100%. NC comes up against the media because he does not jump through hoops when they order it. Does not give out all the gossip, so they look to damage them. Another disgrace Echo again showing your true colours of anti Saints agenda. And on something that is not news, this case has been knocking around for ages. NC is right to cancel the meeting, there are people who would like NC out because he does not suit their agenda. Does not pander their every need and want. Whilst MLT may have kept this club up on a few occasions. NC saved our club from extinction. Sorry I want NC at this club, he is good for the club determined and focused. SKY did away with family clubs, they are history at top level, Its all business and has been for 2 decades. It died out at saints with Ted Bates and gentleman John Corbett.

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11:17am Thu 7 Feb 13 Walter K says…

I wonder if the house was rented from Benali himself or Luken Homes - which was liquidated by him & his father-in-law, leaving lots of creditors unpaid and other projects unfinished but paid for?

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11:18am Thu 7 Feb 13 J7junctionseven says…

Yeah time to move on. A nice positive new thread form the echo would do the trick. How about one about some of the injured players making progress to full fitness or something like that. You know, football related threads. Also, how about he echo getting rid of obvious trolls and wum's quicker in future so decent Saints or proper football fans don't end up retaliating and then getting their wrists slapped by the echo for doing so. Prevention has always been the best cure hasn't it? COYR

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11:21am Thu 7 Feb 13 OSPREYSAINT says…

Bring back Branfoot wrote…

loosehead wrote…

If it's true it was Cortese who rented a house from Benali why is benali suing the club? why isn't this a legal action against just Cortese? what has ambassadorial got t6o do with a house? Benali & LeTissier owe there whole standing in life through the Saints. Benali was cr+p LeTissier brilliant. what teams came in with high offers for Benali? How can anyone say he's Saints through & through when he's suing the Saints?
Franny wasn't a great left back but the times he played centre back he was surprisingly good. A great man marker as I remember!

Well, yes he certainly left his mark! It is good that a local lad was able to come good, I am sure there are many in our area that slip through our fingers because the infrastructure isn't present to capture them. I have no problem with Franny and his issue with the Club, he believes he has been wronged and is going the correct way about dealing with it, and has never to my mind, ever said anything in public himself, any comments have always come from secondary sources.

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11:24am Thu 7 Feb 13 OSPREYSAINT says…

Walter K wrote…

I wonder if the house was rented from Benali himself or Luken Homes - which was liquidated by him & his father-in-law, leaving lots of creditors unpaid and other projects unfinished but paid for?

Be careful what you say, I am no legal eagle, but if there is a Court Case running, comments like this could be considered sub judice.

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11:26am Thu 7 Feb 13 OSPREYSAINT says…

ToastyTea wrote…

since 1885 wrote…

Some of us are still behind you and Tiss Franny. We ain't all mercenaries! You're Southampton through and through son!
hear hear mate, these people bad mouthing matt and franny are a disgrace. they gave me some of the best times of my life at the dell and nothing (not even the dark lord) can take that away and change my opinion of them.

I don't see bad mouthing, just different opinions on whether Matt is in the right or out of order, it seems to be split down the middle, with many various side isues being relevant. None of which is beneficial for the future.

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11:31am Thu 7 Feb 13 OSPREYSAINT says…

loosehead wrote…

If it's true it was Cortese who rented a house from Benali why is benali suing the club? why isn't this a legal action against just Cortese? what has ambassadorial got t6o do with a house? Benali & LeTissier owe there whole standing in life through the Saints. Benali was cr+p LeTissier brilliant. what teams came in with high offers for Benali? How can anyone say he's Saints through & through when he's suing the Saints?

A bit of a mixed bag here, I am sure that Franny and the Club are well aware of the correct format of any legal dispute, they have lawyers to deal with that, leave it to those who know what they are about. I disagree that Franny was no good, he was very adequate at the time that we needed him and never gave less than 100% for the Club while he was here. As far as Le Tissier is concerned, I don't think anything needs to be said, it has all been gone through ad nauseam.

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11:38am Thu 7 Feb 13 Bring back Branfoot says…

OSPREYSAINT wrote…

Bring back Branfoot wrote…

loosehead wrote…

If it's true it was Cortese who rented a house from Benali why is benali suing the club? why isn't this a legal action against just Cortese? what has ambassadorial got t6o do with a house? Benali & LeTissier owe there whole standing in life through the Saints. Benali was cr+p LeTissier brilliant. what teams came in with high offers for Benali? How can anyone say he's Saints through & through when he's suing the Saints?
Franny wasn't a great left back but the times he played centre back he was surprisingly good. A great man marker as I remember!
Well, yes he certainly left his mark! It is good that a local lad was able to come good, I am sure there are many in our area that slip through our fingers because the infrastructure isn't present to capture them. I have no problem with Franny and his issue with the Club, he believes he has been wronged and is going the correct way about dealing with it, and has never to my mind, ever said anything in public himself, any comments have always come from secondary sources.

It's sad OSPers! I don't see what Tiss has to gain by sniping at NC. What he did for the club is unquestionable but we're on a good course now, why create waves? Any theories?

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11:42am Thu 7 Feb 13 OSPREYSAINT says…

pollthom wrote…

InCortesewetrust wrote…

pollthom wrote…

I have it on good authority, that Cortese rented a house from Benali when he first came to England. Cortese proceeded to carry out works to the house without permission. The house was left looking like a building site. This is why Benali has taken court action.
What's that got to do with the price of fish in China? It's got nothing to do with Southampton fc, why dose franny take Southampton fc to court? Lost ambassadorial roll fee's? He is probably not know outside of Hampshire, promote a club in its own county? Well worth the money, who is franny? A less than average player who stayed at saints because no one else wanted him, as for le tizz well he is shown little respect for Southampton fc, cortese and himself,
I believe the house was rented by SFC for Cortese. This is why Benali is banned from St Mary's. Benali may well have been average, but always put in 100% unlike some of the other players of that yesteryear.

Do we know what form of banning order is in use, is it a binding legal order or a polite stay away you are not welcome type request?

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11:48am Thu 7 Feb 13 George4th says…

elvisimo wrote…

Ross123 wrote…

tomw1234 wrote…

since 1885 wrote…

Some of us are still behind you and Tiss Franny. We ain't all mercenaries! You're Southampton through and through son!
You'll find many fans that love Le Tiss but you wont find many that believe he's right to attack the club with his childish and unsubstantiated comments on Twitter and The Echo. Cortese has every right to ban Benali and has every right to cancel the meeting as Le Tiss went spouting off to the media at the first opportunity. Stupid man.
im on le tissiers and frans side. they both belong to the club. cortese treating people like crap again!
Everyone like to hate a Villan. The fact is we have no evidence that Cortese is this "bad" man. He goes about his business, doest rise to rediculous stories and seems to conduct himself pretty well. All we hear on this site is hearsay and "my mate heard" etc etc. No reals facts. The fact that it was MLT mouth that bought the Benalli issue to the forefront backs this up. Leave the guy alone. On this issue Matt has behaved like an attention seeking idiot.

You have summed it up very well. > Who notices that Le Tiss and Benali (and McMenemy) are not at St Marys? Who cares? The pair have/are being ill advised - they have burned their bridges. What do we care about? Saints FC, the players, the manager, the staff and the supporters.

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11:51am Thu 7 Feb 13 Confucious says…

I have successfully contacted Lawyers for You in order to sue the club for compensation (on a 'no win no fee' basis) over a variety of matters including: * Willful selection of Fox and Guly * Three separate accounts of gross goalkeeping negligence. * Two counts of careless premature substitutions of Lambert. * Malicious failure to hire adequate CB cover during the summer.

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11:53am Thu 7 Feb 13 mushrooms says…

Ambassadorial fees?

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11:53am Thu 7 Feb 13 Bring back Branfoot says…

elvisimo wrote…

Ross123 wrote…

tomw1234 wrote…

since 1885 wrote…

Some of us are still behind you and Tiss Franny. We ain't all mercenaries! You're Southampton through and through son!
You'll find many fans that love Le Tiss but you wont find many that believe he's right to attack the club with his childish and unsubstantiated comments on Twitter and The Echo. Cortese has every right to ban Benali and has every right to cancel the meeting as Le Tiss went spouting off to the media at the first opportunity. Stupid man.
im on le tissiers and frans side. they both belong to the club. cortese treating people like crap again!
Everyone like to hate a Villan. The fact is we have no evidence that Cortese is this "bad" man. He goes about his business, doest rise to rediculous stories and seems to conduct himself pretty well. All we hear on this site is hearsay and "my mate heard" etc etc. No reals facts. The fact that it was MLT mouth that bought the Benalli issue to the forefront backs this up. Leave the guy alone. On this issue Matt has behaved like an attention seeking idiot.

Best post so far by a country mile!

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11:56am Thu 7 Feb 13 Bring back Branfoot says…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Yeah time to move on. A nice positive new thread form the echo would do the trick. How about one about some of the injured players making progress to full fitness or something like that. You know, football related threads. Also, how about he echo getting rid of obvious trolls and wum's quicker in future so decent Saints or proper football fans don't end up retaliating and then getting their wrists slapped by the echo for doing so. Prevention has always been the best cure hasn't it? COYR

Don't you ever post any football comments! You always seem to be getting into spats with Skates and WUMs. You are probably the biggest WUM on here because you don't post about football and choose to bait others. And then to top it all you go round complaining when you come off second best! I'm waiting for a foul mouthed response because that's all you know how to do!

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12:02pm Thu 7 Feb 13 sarfhamton says…

Such a shame to see the club and ex players behaving in such a way

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12:08pm Thu 7 Feb 13 OSPREYSAINT says…

Confucious wrote…

I have successfully contacted Lawyers for You in order to sue the club for compensation (on a 'no win no fee' basis) over a variety of matters including: * Willful selection of Fox and Guly * Three separate accounts of gross goalkeeping negligence. * Two counts of careless premature substitutions of Lambert. * Malicious failure to hire adequate CB cover during the summer.

I think that they only deal with accidents, this collection of writs do not appear to have been as a result of accidents, negligence maybe, circumstantial evidence is not adequate on this occasion. I find against you and order you pay the costs to PST. 2p in the pound is acceptable.

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12:11pm Thu 7 Feb 13 OSPREYSAINT says…

Bring back Branfoot wrote…

OSPREYSAINT wrote…

Bring back Branfoot wrote…

loosehead wrote…

If it's true it was Cortese who rented a house from Benali why is benali suing the club? why isn't this a legal action against just Cortese? what has ambassadorial got t6o do with a house? Benali & LeTissier owe there whole standing in life through the Saints. Benali was cr+p LeTissier brilliant. what teams came in with high offers for Benali? How can anyone say he's Saints through & through when he's suing the Saints?
Franny wasn't a great left back but the times he played centre back he was surprisingly good. A great man marker as I remember!
Well, yes he certainly left his mark! It is good that a local lad was able to come good, I am sure there are many in our area that slip through our fingers because the infrastructure isn't present to capture them. I have no problem with Franny and his issue with the Club, he believes he has been wronged and is going the correct way about dealing with it, and has never to my mind, ever said anything in public himself, any comments have always come from secondary sources.
It's sad OSPers! I don't see what Tiss has to gain by sniping at NC. What he did for the club is unquestionable but we're on a good course now, why create waves? Any theories?

I am often inebriated by my own verbosity so haven't really got room to comment!

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12:14pm Thu 7 Feb 13 CharlieGeorgesMissingFinger says…

Could be worse, the skates look like they are gonna be run by Keith Harris and Orville. WTFILN

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12:18pm Thu 7 Feb 13 J7junctionseven says…

Bring back Branfoot wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Yeah time to move on. A nice positive new thread form the echo would do the trick. How about one about some of the injured players making progress to full fitness or something like that. You know, football related threads. Also, how about he echo getting rid of obvious trolls and wum's quicker in future so decent Saints or proper football fans don't end up retaliating and then getting their wrists slapped by the echo for doing so. Prevention has always been the best cure hasn't it? COYR
Don't you ever post any football comments! You always seem to be getting into spats with Skates and WUMs. You are probably the biggest WUM on here because you don't post about football and choose to bait others. And then to top it all you go round complaining when you come off second best! I'm waiting for a foul mouthed response because that's all you know how to do!

I think you are confusing me with someone who really cares about your opinions and the over use of exclamation marks in your posts.

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12:21pm Thu 7 Feb 13 J7junctionseven says…

Ooops... I forgot the foul mouthed response ......oh bugger.

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12:30pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Bring back Branfoot says…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Bring back Branfoot wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Yeah time to move on. A nice positive new thread form the echo would do the trick. How about one about some of the injured players making progress to full fitness or something like that. You know, football related threads. Also, how about he echo getting rid of obvious trolls and wum's quicker in future so decent Saints or proper football fans don't end up retaliating and then getting their wrists slapped by the echo for doing so. Prevention has always been the best cure hasn't it? COYR
Don't you ever post any football comments! You always seem to be getting into spats with Skates and WUMs. You are probably the biggest WUM on here because you don't post about football and choose to bait others. And then to top it all you go round complaining when you come off second best! I'm waiting for a foul mouthed response because that's all you know how to do!
I think you are confusing me with someone who really cares about your opinions and the over use of exclamation marks in your posts.

Under the cloak of being a Saints fan you come on here and gob off. Usually vitriolic and full of abusive language, no creativity or class! You're an unlikable version of Scrappy Doo! Playing out the geezer role on this thread, but ultimately fooling nobody. Buzz off you little fly!!!

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12:39pm Thu 7 Feb 13 J7junctionseven says…

Bring back Branfoot wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Bring back Branfoot wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Yeah time to move on. A nice positive new thread form the echo would do the trick. How about one about some of the injured players making progress to full fitness or something like that. You know, football related threads. Also, how about he echo getting rid of obvious trolls and wum's quicker in future so decent Saints or proper football fans don't end up retaliating and then getting their wrists slapped by the echo for doing so. Prevention has always been the best cure hasn't it? COYR
Don't you ever post any football comments! You always seem to be getting into spats with Skates and WUMs. You are probably the biggest WUM on here because you don't post about football and choose to bait others. And then to top it all you go round complaining when you come off second best! I'm waiting for a foul mouthed response because that's all you know how to do!
I think you are confusing me with someone who really cares about your opinions and the over use of exclamation marks in your posts.
Under the cloak of being a Saints fan you come on here and gob off. Usually vitriolic and full of abusive language, no creativity or class! You're an unlikable version of Scrappy Doo! Playing out the geezer role on this thread, but ultimately fooling nobody. Buzz off you little fly!!!

Ooooh get you...Even more exclamation marks...Calm down. Why do you feel the need to start being abusive. You seem to be contradicting yourself and making yourself out to be a fool.

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12:45pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Bring back Branfoot says…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Bring back Branfoot wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Bring back Branfoot wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Yeah time to move on. A nice positive new thread form the echo would do the trick. How about one about some of the injured players making progress to full fitness or something like that. You know, football related threads. Also, how about he echo getting rid of obvious trolls and wum's quicker in future so decent Saints or proper football fans don't end up retaliating and then getting their wrists slapped by the echo for doing so. Prevention has always been the best cure hasn't it? COYR
Don't you ever post any football comments! You always seem to be getting into spats with Skates and WUMs. You are probably the biggest WUM on here because you don't post about football and choose to bait others. And then to top it all you go round complaining when you come off second best! I'm waiting for a foul mouthed response because that's all you know how to do!
I think you are confusing me with someone who really cares about your opinions and the over use of exclamation marks in your posts.
Under the cloak of being a Saints fan you come on here and gob off. Usually vitriolic and full of abusive language, no creativity or class! You're an unlikable version of Scrappy Doo! Playing out the geezer role on this thread, but ultimately fooling nobody. Buzz off you little fly!!!
Ooooh get you...Even more exclamation marks...Calm down. Why do you feel the need to start being abusive. You seem to be contradicting yourself and making yourself out to be a fool.

Exclamation marks are now abusive! Seventh I tried to reason with you but alas I'd get more sense from a wall! Oops another pesky exclamation mark! Run along now you're missing Cbeebies!

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12:49pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Linesman says…

loosehead wrote…

If it's true it was Cortese who rented a house from Benali why is benali suing the club? why isn't this a legal action against just Cortese? what has ambassadorial got t6o do with a house? Benali & LeTissier owe there whole standing in life through the Saints. Benali was cr+p LeTissier brilliant. what teams came in with high offers for Benali? How can anyone say he's Saints through & through when he's suing the Saints?

If it is true, then it is possible that the agreement was made with Southampton FC and not a personal agreement with Cortese. If that is the case, then it is also possible that Cortese, as Chairman of Southampton FC, signed the agreement. You asked, "How can anyone say he's Saints through & through when he's suing Saints." Southampton FC is a commercial business, and are as capable as any other business of, not only getting things wrong, but refusing to admit that they got things wrong, or disputing that they got things wrong. That is what appears to be the case with Benali.

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12:49pm Thu 7 Feb 13 J7junctionseven says…

Bring back Branfoot wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Bring back Branfoot wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Bring back Branfoot wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Yeah time to move on. A nice positive new thread form the echo would do the trick. How about one about some of the injured players making progress to full fitness or something like that. You know, football related threads. Also, how about he echo getting rid of obvious trolls and wum's quicker in future so decent Saints or proper football fans don't end up retaliating and then getting their wrists slapped by the echo for doing so. Prevention has always been the best cure hasn't it? COYR
Don't you ever post any football comments! You always seem to be getting into spats with Skates and WUMs. You are probably the biggest WUM on here because you don't post about football and choose to bait others. And then to top it all you go round complaining when you come off second best! I'm waiting for a foul mouthed response because that's all you know how to do!
I think you are confusing me with someone who really cares about your opinions and the over use of exclamation marks in your posts.
Under the cloak of being a Saints fan you come on here and gob off. Usually vitriolic and full of abusive language, no creativity or class! You're an unlikable version of Scrappy Doo! Playing out the geezer role on this thread, but ultimately fooling nobody. Buzz off you little fly!!!
Ooooh get you...Even more exclamation marks...Calm down. Why do you feel the need to start being abusive. You seem to be contradicting yourself and making yourself out to be a fool.
Exclamation marks are now abusive! Seventh I tried to reason with you but alas I'd get more sense from a wall! Oops another pesky exclamation mark! Run along now you're missing Cbeebies!

You're boring me now and far too childish for me to waste anymore time exchanging pleasantries with you on here. I'll be at the Waterfront in Shamrock Quy from 1pm on Saturday.

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12:50pm Thu 7 Feb 13 J7junctionseven says…

That should be Shamrock Quay.

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12:52pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Bring back Branfoot says…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Bring back Branfoot wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Bring back Branfoot wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Bring back Branfoot wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Yeah time to move on. A nice positive new thread form the echo would do the trick. How about one about some of the injured players making progress to full fitness or something like that. You know, football related threads. Also, how about he echo getting rid of obvious trolls and wum's quicker in future so decent Saints or proper football fans don't end up retaliating and then getting their wrists slapped by the echo for doing so. Prevention has always been the best cure hasn't it? COYR
Don't you ever post any football comments! You always seem to be getting into spats with Skates and WUMs. You are probably the biggest WUM on here because you don't post about football and choose to bait others. And then to top it all you go round complaining when you come off second best! I'm waiting for a foul mouthed response because that's all you know how to do!
I think you are confusing me with someone who really cares about your opinions and the over use of exclamation marks in your posts.
Under the cloak of being a Saints fan you come on here and gob off. Usually vitriolic and full of abusive language, no creativity or class! You're an unlikable version of Scrappy Doo! Playing out the geezer role on this thread, but ultimately fooling nobody. Buzz off you little fly!!!
Ooooh get you...Even more exclamation marks...Calm down. Why do you feel the need to start being abusive. You seem to be contradicting yourself and making yourself out to be a fool.
Exclamation marks are now abusive! Seventh I tried to reason with you but alas I'd get more sense from a wall! Oops another pesky exclamation mark! Run along now you're missing Cbeebies!
You're boring me now and far too childish for me to waste anymore time exchanging pleasantries with you on here. I'll be at the Waterfront in Shamrock Quy from 1pm on Saturday.

No you won't! Lol! I mean coming off second best with a Manc, really Seventh! Don't think we didn't notice the dirty little glory hunter giving you a verbal spanking. Yet again coming off second best, old habits die hard I guess hey seventh!

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12:53pm Thu 7 Feb 13 mack chinnon says…

Come on Bournemouth. And Hartlepool.

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12:56pm Thu 7 Feb 13 J7junctionseven says…

Bring back Branfoot wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Bring back Branfoot wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Bring back Branfoot wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Bring back Branfoot wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Yeah time to move on. A nice positive new thread form the echo would do the trick. How about one about some of the injured players making progress to full fitness or something like that. You know, football related threads. Also, how about he echo getting rid of obvious trolls and wum's quicker in future so decent Saints or proper football fans don't end up retaliating and then getting their wrists slapped by the echo for doing so. Prevention has always been the best cure hasn't it? COYR
Don't you ever post any football comments! You always seem to be getting into spats with Skates and WUMs. You are probably the biggest WUM on here because you don't post about football and choose to bait others. And then to top it all you go round complaining when you come off second best! I'm waiting for a foul mouthed response because that's all you know how to do!
I think you are confusing me with someone who really cares about your opinions and the over use of exclamation marks in your posts.
Under the cloak of being a Saints fan you come on here and gob off. Usually vitriolic and full of abusive language, no creativity or class! You're an unlikable version of Scrappy Doo! Playing out the geezer role on this thread, but ultimately fooling nobody. Buzz off you little fly!!!
Ooooh get you...Even more exclamation marks...Calm down. Why do you feel the need to start being abusive. You seem to be contradicting yourself and making yourself out to be a fool.
Exclamation marks are now abusive! Seventh I tried to reason with you but alas I'd get more sense from a wall! Oops another pesky exclamation mark! Run along now you're missing Cbeebies!
You're boring me now and far too childish for me to waste anymore time exchanging pleasantries with you on here. I'll be at the Waterfront in Shamrock Quy from 1pm on Saturday.
No you won't! Lol! I mean coming off second best with a Manc, really Seventh! Don't think we didn't notice the dirty little glory hunter giving you a verbal spanking. Yet again coming off second best, old habits die hard I guess hey seventh!

I'll be at the Waterfront in Shamrock Quay from 1pm on Saturday.

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12:58pm Thu 7 Feb 13 J7junctionseven says…

Take note, I'm not being condescending or abusive in any way.

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1:01pm Thu 7 Feb 13 J7junctionseven says…

...or in the slightest bit worried about what you've got to say as it's all rather infantile. .......Actions speak louder words..

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1:02pm Thu 7 Feb 13 J7junctionseven says…

Tha should be ..Actions speak louder than words.

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1:05pm Thu 7 Feb 13 st1halo says…

Linesman wrote…

loosehead wrote…

If it's true it was Cortese who rented a house from Benali why is benali suing the club? why isn't this a legal action against just Cortese? what has ambassadorial got t6o do with a house? Benali & LeTissier owe there whole standing in life through the Saints. Benali was cr+p LeTissier brilliant. what teams came in with high offers for Benali? How can anyone say he's Saints through & through when he's suing the Saints?
If it is true, then it is possible that the agreement was made with Southampton FC and not a personal agreement with Cortese. If that is the case, then it is also possible that Cortese, as Chairman of Southampton FC, signed the agreement. You asked, "How can anyone say he's Saints through & through when he's suing Saints." Southampton FC is a commercial business, and are as capable as any other business of, not only getting things wrong, but refusing to admit that they got things wrong, or disputing that they got things wrong. That is what appears to be the case with Benali.

Once again you demonsrate that conclusion can be the mother of all inaccuracies. STID

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1:05pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Bring back Branfoot says…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Bring back Branfoot wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Bring back Branfoot wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Bring back Branfoot wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Bring back Branfoot wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Yeah time to move on. A nice positive new thread form the echo would do the trick. How about one about some of the injured players making progress to full fitness or something like that. You know, football related threads. Also, how about he echo getting rid of obvious trolls and wum's quicker in future so decent Saints or proper football fans don't end up retaliating and then getting their wrists slapped by the echo for doing so. Prevention has always been the best cure hasn't it? COYR
Don't you ever post any football comments! You always seem to be getting into spats with Skates and WUMs. You are probably the biggest WUM on here because you don't post about football and choose to bait others. And then to top it all you go round complaining when you come off second best! I'm waiting for a foul mouthed response because that's all you know how to do!
I think you are confusing me with someone who really cares about your opinions and the over use of exclamation marks in your posts.
Under the cloak of being a Saints fan you come on here and gob off. Usually vitriolic and full of abusive language, no creativity or class! You're an unlikable version of Scrappy Doo! Playing out the geezer role on this thread, but ultimately fooling nobody. Buzz off you little fly!!!
Ooooh get you...Even more exclamation marks...Calm down. Why do you feel the need to start being abusive. You seem to be contradicting yourself and making yourself out to be a fool.
Exclamation marks are now abusive! Seventh I tried to reason with you but alas I'd get more sense from a wall! Oops another pesky exclamation mark! Run along now you're missing Cbeebies!
You're boring me now and far too childish for me to waste anymore time exchanging pleasantries with you on here. I'll be at the Waterfront in Shamrock Quy from 1pm on Saturday.
No you won't! Lol! I mean coming off second best with a Manc, really Seventh! Don't think we didn't notice the dirty little glory hunter giving you a verbal spanking. Yet again coming off second best, old habits die hard I guess hey seventh!
I'll be at the Waterfront in Shamrock Quay from 1pm on Saturday.

Are you shadow boxing right now, Rocky? You are eluding to a fight. I don't partake in violence, dreadful business! Plus you prat you have broadcasted it on a newspaper site. You think I'd be involved in some sort of freak show with you! It wouldn't even be a contest you fly! Leave the the tough guy bit for your Breezer drinking friends.

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1:08pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Bring back Branfoot says…

J7junctionseven wrote…

...or in the slightest bit worried about what you've got to say as it's all rather infantile. .......Actions speak louder words..

If our paths ever crossed you'd s*** yourself. Sb who gobs off about fighting is usually, in my experience, useless. The type that gob off to doorman and then run! That would be you, fly!

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1:10pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Mush On The Beach says…

A lot of passion and divergent views shown on here from what is sadly a relevant topic involving SFC, fair enough. I don’t think that much in the way of news is fresh from the blog yesterday so my views still remain. I’ll share you a few off-topic thoughts in my head as a side show: Man City have looked fragile due to the lack of their backbone in the last month. Will Yaya Toure and Vincent Kompany return in time to put it right at St Marys. Liverpool totally out passed Citeh last week but if you make one mistake e.g. Reina and then their quality will punish you e.g Aguero. We have the mentality, belief, style and fans required to take out the first scalp from the top 4 this weekend. You may wish to consider and think. Belated message to Strassie, the goals on that wonderful historic Aussie night were scored by goals Tony Popovich and Harry Kewell.

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1:10pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Bring back Branfoot says…

What's your seat number at St Marys?

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1:10pm Thu 7 Feb 13 st1halo says…

Where is FTBU today? He's L8 hee hee! Hasn't had a lot to say for himself L8tly. STID

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1:11pm Thu 7 Feb 13 J7junctionseven says…

Someone's lost the plot by the sounds of it.

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1:16pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Bring back Branfoot says…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Someone's lost the plot by the sounds of it.

Stand and seat number?

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1:26pm Thu 7 Feb 13 SaintJD says…

loosehead wrote…

If it's true it was Cortese who rented a house from Benali why is benali suing the club? why isn't this a legal action against just Cortese? what has ambassadorial got t6o do with a house? Benali & LeTissier owe there whole standing in life through the Saints. Benali was cr+p LeTissier brilliant. what teams came in with high offers for Benali? How can anyone say he's Saints through & through when he's suing the Saints?

I'd say I'm Saints through and through. Does that mean if Nicola runs me over deliberately tomorrow and reverses over my head, I should get up and shake his hand? Or phone Lawyers for You? Or go to hospital? Just asking.

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1:26pm Thu 7 Feb 13 loosehead says…

Bring back Branfoot wrote…

loosehead wrote…

If it's true it was Cortese who rented a house from Benali why is benali suing the club? why isn't this a legal action against just Cortese? what has ambassadorial got t6o do with a house? Benali & LeTissier owe there whole standing in life through the Saints. Benali was cr+p LeTissier brilliant. what teams came in with high offers for Benali? How can anyone say he's Saints through & through when he's suing the Saints?
Franny wasn't a great left back but the times he played centre back he was surprisingly good. A great man marker as I remember!

If you think he was great then maybe football isn't the sport for you! if you so called supporters call this man a good defender please ,please tell me what clubs came for him & how much they offered? if as another poster has put this is between Franni & Cortese why is he suing Saints? watching a program on BBC1 about sheriffs if the debt or damage was accrued/caused by Cortese not Saints then he will lose hands down. but once again what a great Southampton through & through person he is suing Southampton?

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1:27pm Thu 7 Feb 13 J7junctionseven says…

Bring back Branfoot wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Someone's lost the plot by the sounds of it.
Stand and seat number?

Do you honestly think anyone would be daft enough to post their seat number on here? You must be even more stupid than you sound. I've already said where I will be having a few beers on Saturday more than once. Oh and as for your comments about arranging a fight etc, I think you'll find you are the only one who's mentioned it. I'm only telling you where I'm going to be. Its quite good there.

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1:27pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Confucious says…

OSPREYSAINT wrote…

Confucious wrote…

I have successfully contacted Lawyers for You in order to sue the club for compensation (on a 'no win no fee' basis) over a variety of matters including: * Willful selection of Fox and Guly * Three separate accounts of gross goalkeeping negligence. * Two counts of careless premature substitutions of Lambert. * Malicious failure to hire adequate CB cover during the summer.
I think that they only deal with accidents, this collection of writs do not appear to have been as a result of accidents, negligence maybe, circumstantial evidence is not adequate on this occasion. I find against you and order you pay the costs to PST. 2p in the pound is acceptable.

They turned me down anyway because all the first paragraph of my 20 paragraph season ticket contract says is: "You are forbidden to read the following 19 paragraphs."

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1:32pm Thu 7 Feb 13 CB FRY LIVES says…

InCortesewetrust wrote…

pollthom wrote…

I have it on good authority, that Cortese rented a house from Benali when he first came to England. Cortese proceeded to carry out works to the house without permission. The house was left looking like a building site. This is why Benali has taken court action.
What's that got to do with the price of fish in China? It's got nothing to do with Southampton fc, why dose franny take Southampton fc to court? Lost ambassadorial roll fee's? He is probably not know outside of Hampshire, promote a club in its own county? Well worth the money, who is franny? A less than average player who stayed at saints because no one else wanted him, as for le tizz well he is shown little respect for Southampton fc, cortese and himself,

Benali did ok when on loan at notts forest.an honest pro who did his bit for the club over the years. Unfortunately the family image of southampton football club is now part of our history.the new mean lean business machine now reflects many of the perverted aims of david camerons big society.BIG SOCIETY BIG CON. COYR

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1:34pm Thu 7 Feb 13 TEBOURBA says…

Just look at the photographs of Matty, Franny and Cortese and honestly ask yourself, who looks the shyster, could it possibly be the Michael Corleone look a like ? Cortese didn't have the guts to face a news conference on sacking Nigel and hasn't the guts to face Saints legend Matty. The shyster has got a poor court record played two lost two! Viva !! Matt, Franny, AP and NA, true supporters will never forget the great service you all gave to SFC. Further power to the elbows of the directors Solent Interiors in their upcoming legal actions. The shyster will sooon realise that as ye sow so shall ye reap.

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1:35pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Saint Nipper says…

rednwhite72 wrote…

Yep same story from a totally different perspective, and has no bearing on this matter. Frannie and the club have a legal dispute, obviously why Frannie is not available to comment. I can understand NC point of view when it comes to the media, things do get taken out of context for the benefit of a better story for the papers. Fella's do us all a favour, sort it out in private, all you have to tells us is that you have shaken hands and the matter is closed...!

Seems like NC and staff are acting in a business like fashion with their input. Le God on the other needs to stop tweeting and whatever with tittle-tattle about this and sort it out privately. I does seem some money is involved and some business interests of Frannie - but nothing to do with SFC - a private business matter. Please behave like men and sort it.

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1:37pm Thu 7 Feb 13 loosehead says…

SaintJD wrote…

loosehead wrote…

If it's true it was Cortese who rented a house from Benali why is benali suing the club? why isn't this a legal action against just Cortese? what has ambassadorial got t6o do with a house? Benali & LeTissier owe there whole standing in life through the Saints. Benali was cr+p LeTissier brilliant. what teams came in with high offers for Benali? How can anyone say he's Saints through & through when he's suing the Saints?
I'd say I'm Saints through and through. Does that mean if Nicola runs me over deliberately tomorrow and reverses over my head, I should get up and shake his hand? Or phone Lawyers for You? Or go to hospital? Just asking.

so you think you'll survive to sue then? Sorry I would argue Saints position till I couldn't talk any more. I went & saw Bennet Benali & all those Saints teams before the FA Cup win & after. I remember going to every away game the year McMenemy took over & we got relegated & I still went to every away match. I remember standing under the east stand looking up & seeing the seats empty yet I was called a yob. I would never consider suing the Saints over a private matter & to compare it to some one deliberately knocking you over is sick. After the years of the board selling for as much as they could get to Rupert Lowe & the devastation he wrought then to go through all that only to be saved from Pompey's fate by Cortese's insistence to the Liebher family( Hope I spelt that right) I can't believe how many fans are so against Cortese? Fine let an average footballer hang on to the apron strings of Saints & make a packet through appearances & interviews then sue his very bread & butter for more money. Just what would happen if the company say's enough's enough & pull out of Saints?

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1:39pm Thu 7 Feb 13 angus mc coatup says…

looks like someone has switched back to another persona.

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1:40pm Thu 7 Feb 13 J7junctionseven says…

angus mc coatup wrote…

looks like someone has switched back to another persona.

Strange, that one isn't it

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1:42pm Thu 7 Feb 13 J7junctionseven says…

Exclamation mark, anyone?

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1:44pm Thu 7 Feb 13 angus mc coatup says…

J7junctionseven wrote…

angus mc coatup wrote…

looks like someone has switched back to another persona.
Strange, that one isn't it

you trying to pick a fight !...........:o)

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1:47pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Bring back Branfoot says…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Bring back Branfoot wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Someone's lost the plot by the sounds of it.
Stand and seat number?
Do you honestly think anyone would be daft enough to post their seat number on here? You must be even more stupid than you sound. I've already said where I will be having a few beers on Saturday more than once. Oh and as for your comments about arranging a fight etc, I think you'll find you are the only one who's mentioned it. I'm only telling you where I'm going to be. Its quite good there.

As i thought! Seventh don't go round offering people out! The last thing you want is for me to know the face behind that sticky keyboard, hence you not giving me your stand and seat number! Oops another exclamation mark! Let me guess you're going to invite me for "a drink".

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1:49pm Thu 7 Feb 13 tomw1234 says…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Exclamation mark, anyone?

Yeah I noticed that he seems to love the old exclamation mark. Near every sentence...he seems rather angry. Asking for your seat number...what the hell? Sounds like a right muppet to me. Prob some old grandad with nothing better to do with his day.

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1:53pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Bring back Branfoot says…

Seventh you were the one saying action speak louder than words! Oops!

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1:54pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Strasbourg Saint says…

I know it's off thread and all that and I really am sorry for bring this up now at such an important moment in this feud, but is anyone else starting to get just a teeny-weeny bit excited that, at tea time on Saturday, the League Champions are in town and if we get a wee bit of luck, we have the talent to win and, if we do, then THIS might (and it is only a 'might') be the weekend when the world finally sits up and takes notice of the Leibherr revolution?

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1:54pm Thu 7 Feb 13 seven777. says…

six new football comments and a bunch of c''ts posturing,threatenin g violence over a has been and a carpet ffs.

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1:54pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Alicesdad says…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Someone's lost the plot by the sounds of it.

Yeah !!

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1:55pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Alicesdad says…

TEBOURBA wrote…

Just look at the photographs of Matty, Franny and Cortese and honestly ask yourself, who looks the shyster, could it possibly be the Michael Corleone look a like ? Cortese didn't have the guts to face a news conference on sacking Nigel and hasn't the guts to face Saints legend Matty. The shyster has got a poor court record played two lost two! Viva !! Matt, Franny, AP and NA, true supporters will never forget the great service you all gave to SFC. Further power to the elbows of the directors Solent Interiors in their upcoming legal actions. The shyster will sooon realise that as ye sow so shall ye reap.

Yeah .. that'll happen.

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1:56pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Alicesdad says…

EricMartin'sHat wrote…

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzz wake me up at 5:30pm on Saturday!

Yeah !!

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1:57pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Strasbourg Saint says…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Exclamation mark, anyone?

Can we run a tote on the outcome? And can we come to Shamrock Quay to watch? My money's on you winning by a knock out in the first!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

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1:57pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Alicesdad says…

Bring back Branfoot wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Bring back Branfoot wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Bring back Branfoot wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Bring back Branfoot wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Bring back Branfoot wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Yeah time to move on. A nice positive new thread form the echo would do the trick. How about one about some of the injured players making progress to full fitness or something like that. You know, football related threads. Also, how about he echo getting rid of obvious trolls and wum's quicker in future so decent Saints or proper football fans don't end up retaliating and then getting their wrists slapped by the echo for doing so. Prevention has always been the best cure hasn't it? COYR
Don't you ever post any football comments! You always seem to be getting into spats with Skates and WUMs. You are probably the biggest WUM on here because you don't post about football and choose to bait others. And then to top it all you go round complaining when you come off second best! I'm waiting for a foul mouthed response because that's all you know how to do!
I think you are confusing me with someone who really cares about your opinions and the over use of exclamation marks in your posts.
Under the cloak of being a Saints fan you come on here and gob off. Usually vitriolic and full of abusive language, no creativity or class! You're an unlikable version of Scrappy Doo! Playing out the geezer role on this thread, but ultimately fooling nobody. Buzz off you little fly!!!
Ooooh get you...Even more exclamation marks...Calm down. Why do you feel the need to start being abusive. You seem to be contradicting yourself and making yourself out to be a fool.
Exclamation marks are now abusive! Seventh I tried to reason with you but alas I'd get more sense from a wall! Oops another pesky exclamation mark! Run along now you're missing Cbeebies!
You're boring me now and far too childish for me to waste anymore time exchanging pleasantries with you on here. I'll be at the Waterfront in Shamrock Quy from 1pm on Saturday.
No you won't! Lol! I mean coming off second best with a Manc, really Seventh! Don't think we didn't notice the dirty little glory hunter giving you a verbal spanking. Yet again coming off second best, old habits die hard I guess hey seventh!
I'll be at the Waterfront in Shamrock Quay from 1pm on Saturday.
Are you shadow boxing right now, Rocky? You are eluding to a fight. I don't partake in violence, dreadful business! Plus you prat you have broadcasted it on a newspaper site. You think I'd be involved in some sort of freak show with you! It wouldn't even be a contest you fly! Leave the the tough guy bit for your Breezer drinking friends.

Yeah !!

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1:57pm Thu 7 Feb 13 tomw1234 says…

Strasbourg Saint wrote…

I know it's off thread and all that and I really am sorry for bring this up now at such an important moment in this feud, but is anyone else starting to get just a teeny-weeny bit excited that, at tea time on Saturday, the League Champions are in town and if we get a wee bit of luck, we have the talent to win and, if we do, then THIS might (and it is only a 'might') be the weekend when the world finally sits up and takes notice of the Leibherr revolution?

You aren't the only one mate. I'm looking forward to the game! I'm sure the atmosphere will be electric. Lets show City what we can do!

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1:59pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Alicesdad says…

seven777. wrote…

six new football comments and a bunch of c''ts posturing,threatenin g violence over a has been and a carpet ffs.

Yeah.. **** right !!

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2:00pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Alicesdad says…

seven777. wrote…

six new football comments and a bunch of c''ts posturing,threatenin g violence over a has been and a carpet ffs.

Yeah !!

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2:00pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Alicesdad says…

I dont agree do you ?

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2:01pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Strasbourg Saint says…

Mush On The Beach wrote…

A lot of passion and divergent views shown on here from what is sadly a relevant topic involving SFC, fair enough. I don’t think that much in the way of news is fresh from the blog yesterday so my views still remain. I’ll share you a few off-topic thoughts in my head as a side show: Man City have looked fragile due to the lack of their backbone in the last month. Will Yaya Toure and Vincent Kompany return in time to put it right at St Marys. Liverpool totally out passed Citeh last week but if you make one mistake e.g. Reina and then their quality will punish you e.g Aguero. We have the mentality, belief, style and fans required to take out the first scalp from the top 4 this weekend. You may wish to consider and think. Belated message to Strassie, the goals on that wonderful historic Aussie night were scored by goals Tony Popovich and Harry Kewell.

It was at West Ham wasn't it? Bring on the Ashes, mush.

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2:01pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Alicesdad says…

No I don't but you are a tra****ingusit so what you gonna do abaht it !!

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2:01pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Alicesdad says…

Alicesdad wrote…

No I don't but you are a tra****ingusit so what you gonna do abaht it !!

So lets sort it then !!!

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2:02pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Alicesdad says…

Yeah right.. outside ,., NOW !!!

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2:03pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Alicesdad says…

OK what seat number are you ? You ***********ing tra****ingusit werd****gun***ther

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2:04pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Alicesdad says…

Alicesdad wrote…

OK what seat number are you ? You ***********ing tra****ingusit werd****gun***ther

Who are you calling a ***********ing tra****ingusit werd****gun***ther

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2:04pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Strasbourg Saint says…

tomw1234 wrote…

Strasbourg Saint wrote…

I know it's off thread and all that and I really am sorry for bring this up now at such an important moment in this feud, but is anyone else starting to get just a teeny-weeny bit excited that, at tea time on Saturday, the League Champions are in town and if we get a wee bit of luck, we have the talent to win and, if we do, then THIS might (and it is only a 'might') be the weekend when the world finally sits up and takes notice of the Leibherr revolution?
You aren't the only one mate. I'm looking forward to the game! I'm sure the atmosphere will be electric. Lets show City what we can do!

It might depend on who is available in each camp and whether we have a change of luck, but I really think we have enough about us to win this.

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2:04pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Alicesdad says…

Alicesdad wrote…

Alicesdad wrote…

OK what seat number are you ? You ***********ing tra****ingusit werd****gun***ther
Who are you calling a ***********ing tra****ingusit werd****gun***ther

You

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2:05pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Alicesdad says…

Alicesdad wrote…

Alicesdad wrote…

Alicesdad wrote…

OK what seat number are you ? You ***********ing tra****ingusit werd****gun***ther
Who are you calling a ***********ing tra****ingusit werd****gun***ther
You

Im busy ...

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2:05pm Thu 7 Feb 13 J7junctionseven says…

tomw1234 wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Exclamation mark, anyone?
Yeah I noticed that he seems to love the old exclamation mark. Near every sentence...he seems rather angry. Asking for your seat number...what the hell? Sounds like a right muppet to me. Prob some old grandad with nothing better to do with his day.

I'd rather meet for a beer at Shamrock Quay and all he wants to do is swat flies whilst sitting on my lap in the stadium....strange or what.

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2:05pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Alicesdad says…

OK .. that's it

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2:07pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Alicesdad says…

Is it the club suing Bin Laden or Corleone suing Bin Laden its all unclear, you deaf dumb *************wit.

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2:08pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Alicesdad says…

Alicesdad wrote…

Is it the club suing Bin Laden or Corleone suing Bin Laden its all unclear, you deaf dumb *************wit.

He's dead isn't he ?

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2:09pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Alicesdad says…

Alicesdad wrote…

Alicesdad wrote…

Is it the club suing Bin Laden or Corleone suing Bin Laden its all unclear, you deaf dumb *************wit.
He's dead isn't he ?

Corleone is .. I saw it in a film.

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2:10pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Alicesdad says…

Alicesdad wrote…

Alicesdad wrote…

Alicesdad wrote…

Is it the club suing Bin Laden or Corleone suing Bin Laden its all unclear, you deaf dumb *************wit.
He's dead isn't he ?
Corleone is .. I saw it in a film.

I predict a riot.

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2:10pm Thu 7 Feb 13 SaintJD says…

loosehead wrote…

SaintJD wrote…

loosehead wrote…

If it's true it was Cortese who rented a house from Benali why is benali suing the club? why isn't this a legal action against just Cortese? what has ambassadorial got t6o do with a house? Benali & LeTissier owe there whole standing in life through the Saints. Benali was cr+p LeTissier brilliant. what teams came in with high offers for Benali? How can anyone say he's Saints through & through when he's suing the Saints?
I'd say I'm Saints through and through. Does that mean if Nicola runs me over deliberately tomorrow and reverses over my head, I should get up and shake his hand? Or phone Lawyers for You? Or go to hospital? Just asking.
so you think you'll survive to sue then? Sorry I would argue Saints position till I couldn't talk any more. I went & saw Bennet Benali & all those Saints teams before the FA Cup win & after. I remember going to every away game the year McMenemy took over & we got relegated & I still went to every away match. I remember standing under the east stand looking up & seeing the seats empty yet I was called a yob. I would never consider suing the Saints over a private matter & to compare it to some one deliberately knocking you over is sick. After the years of the board selling for as much as they could get to Rupert Lowe & the devastation he wrought then to go through all that only to be saved from Pompey's fate by Cortese's insistence to the Liebher family( Hope I spelt that right) I can't believe how many fans are so against Cortese? Fine let an average footballer hang on to the apron strings of Saints & make a packet through appearances & interviews then sue his very bread & butter for more money. Just what would happen if the company say's enough's enough & pull out of Saints?

That's rubbish to be frank. I'm not saying this is what happened in Franny's case (and by the way whether he was a good player or not has absolutely nothing to do with his right to say he loves the club) are you honestly saying if the club dismantled your house and didn't want to pay for the damage then, as is likely the case, didn't respond to any of your complaints, you wouldn't have to take the matter further. As Nicola would say himself, this is business and, in business, if you let somebody walk over you you get what you deserve. I'm not against Cortese in the slightest, but I honestly don't believe Benali would be suing unless it was the absolute last resort. And in all the year's I've seen the guy, I don't view him as someone who chases the money. He is a decent, nice guy who loves the club. Same is true of Matt. Forget the amount of people who are against NC (not many in my opinion) but personally, I can't believe so many people are willing to jettison the views of people we have seen associated with the club for decades to blindly cosy up to a guy we know very little about, mainly because he likes to manage the media.

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2:12pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Alicesdad says…

Anyone fancy talking about the weather? Cliud movements are a whole lot more exciting than this thread.

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2:12pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Alicesdad says…

So are cloud movements.

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2:13pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Alicesdad says…

SaintJD wrote…

loosehead wrote…

SaintJD wrote…

loosehead wrote…

If it's true it was Cortese who rented a house from Benali why is benali suing the club? why isn't this a legal action against just Cortese? what has ambassadorial got t6o do with a house? Benali & LeTissier owe there whole standing in life through the Saints. Benali was cr+p LeTissier brilliant. what teams came in with high offers for Benali? How can anyone say he's Saints through & through when he's suing the Saints?
I'd say I'm Saints through and through. Does that mean if Nicola runs me over deliberately tomorrow and reverses over my head, I should get up and shake his hand? Or phone Lawyers for You? Or go to hospital? Just asking.
so you think you'll survive to sue then? Sorry I would argue Saints position till I couldn't talk any more. I went & saw Bennet Benali & all those Saints teams before the FA Cup win & after. I remember going to every away game the year McMenemy took over & we got relegated & I still went to every away match. I remember standing under the east stand looking up & seeing the seats empty yet I was called a yob. I would never consider suing the Saints over a private matter & to compare it to some one deliberately knocking you over is sick. After the years of the board selling for as much as they could get to Rupert Lowe & the devastation he wrought then to go through all that only to be saved from Pompey's fate by Cortese's insistence to the Liebher family( Hope I spelt that right) I can't believe how many fans are so against Cortese? Fine let an average footballer hang on to the apron strings of Saints & make a packet through appearances & interviews then sue his very bread & butter for more money. Just what would happen if the company say's enough's enough & pull out of Saints?
That's rubbish to be frank. I'm not saying this is what happened in Franny's case (and by the way whether he was a good player or not has absolutely nothing to do with his right to say he loves the club) are you honestly saying if the club dismantled your house and didn't want to pay for the damage then, as is likely the case, didn't respond to any of your complaints, you wouldn't have to take the matter further. As Nicola would say himself, this is business and, in business, if you let somebody walk over you you get what you deserve. I'm not against Cortese in the slightest, but I honestly don't believe Benali would be suing unless it was the absolute last resort. And in all the year's I've seen the guy, I don't view him as someone who chases the money. He is a decent, nice guy who loves the club. Same is true of Matt. Forget the amount of people who are against NC (not many in my opinion) but personally, I can't believe so many people are willing to jettison the views of people we have seen associated with the club for decades to blindly cosy up to a guy we know very little about, mainly because he likes to manage the media.

Yeah !!

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2:14pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Alicesdad says…

Alicesdad wrote…

So are cloud movements.

Yeah

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2:16pm Thu 7 Feb 13 J7junctionseven says…

Overcast here with a 20% chance of precipitation. Have you calmed down now..:o)

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2:16pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Mush On The Beach says…

Alice is a Hooligan with SPRINGS in her bounce. Another thought off topic . ... I stand totally impressed at what the Geordies are doing in signing class options for dollar value from the African players, Moussa Sissok is the latest bargain from African origins. I hope Radhi Jaïdi has enjoyed the Nations cup and can weave some magic for our future.

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2:18pm Thu 7 Feb 13 rocketone says…

My my my! Some people really do have their heads right up their arse , don't they? !!!!!!! As a football club Saints are in a very emotional business. I was there when Franny scored and chanted his name as loud as anyone. I saw him and Le Tiss on Saturday morning Sky with Lovejoy quite a long time ago. I thought then that I couldn't see what he was moaning about. The carpet got damaged and replaced with a proper timber floor. A real expensive floor, not some cheap B & Q laminate. Get over it I thought at the time, still do. BbB stop your abuse of fellow posters, really don't see why you go off on one sometimes. This a site for opinions and yours is as welcome as anyone's. But why take everything so personally? 77777 leave it!!!!!!!!!

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2:25pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Alicesdad says…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Overcast here with a 20% chance of precipitation. Have you calmed down now..:o)

YEAH !

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2:26pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Alicesdad says…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Overcast here with a 20% chance of precipitation. Have you calmed down now..:o)

Sorry .. yes ... I just thought I'd join in a bit more.....

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2:27pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Outside of the Box says…

As my old mum says,,,,Never hang your dirty washing out in public,,,,,Tiss got was given his meeting on the ground the meeting wasn't made public,,,,so he made it public,,,,lost his meeting,,,who is wrong? MLT. Cortese is an employee of the club, if the club rents a home and allows there employee to live in that home the club are responsible for the behaviour or any damage the employee causes the club are responsible,,,,if the landlord wants to sue, they should sue whoevers name is on the contract.,,,,by saying Franny Benali doesn't care about the club because he's suing them it wrong,,,,, Another saying from my old mum,,,2 wrongs don't make a right,,,,, On other news Keith Harris has said that he takes over the Skates,,,he will not allow Orville anywhere near Westwood,,,as he is worried about Westwood intentions towards his duck

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2:32pm Thu 7 Feb 13 J7junctionseven says…

Alicesdad wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Overcast here with a 20% chance of precipitation. Have you calmed down now..:o)
Sorry .. yes ... I just thought I'd join in a bit more.....

Sterling work.

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2:47pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Strasbourg Saint says…

Outside of the Box wrote…

As my old mum says,,,,Never hang your dirty washing out in public,,,,,Tiss got was given his meeting on the ground the meeting wasn't made public,,,,so he made it public,,,,lost his meeting,,,who is wrong? MLT. Cortese is an employee of the club, if the club rents a home and allows there employee to live in that home the club are responsible for the behaviour or any damage the employee causes the club are responsible,,,,if the landlord wants to sue, they should sue whoevers name is on the contract.,,,,by saying Franny Benali doesn't care about the club because he's suing them it wrong,,,,, Another saying from my old mum,,,2 wrongs don't make a right,,,,, On other news Keith Harris has said that he takes over the Skates,,,he will not allow Orville anywhere near Westwood,,,as he is worried about Westwood intentions towards his duck

Generally agree with your points. As for Orville, ducks eat fish, so I look forward to the outcome.

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3:01pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Lone Ranger. says…

Well the LeTiss story backfired on the Echo yesterday ...... So now they are having a pop using Frannie B. . Do us a favour Echo ...... Get some football stories related to the Saints and stop this stupid attempt to continually discredit Cortese and attempting to blacken the name of SFC.

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3:02pm Thu 7 Feb 13 MGRA says…

why on earth should a meeting between MLT and NC be kept secret ? I can think of absolutely no reason. The meeting would obviously be minuted/recorded ( otherwise it would be pointless ) no one in their right mind would agree to a gagging order on such a meeting since the issues raised would be about the character of each individual and the doubts each of them has cast on the other. So the only conclusion I can see is that this is a smoke screen and set up..... and/or NC just has not got the b&lls to meet Matt face to face.... I just see a head honcho to scared to attend the press conference of his new manager and too scared to meet a club legend face-to-face and talk honestly and on the record.... so why you are all wondering why Matt "can't keep his gob shut" and i wondering why NC is so scared of going on the record with certain subjects...

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3:02pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Linesman says…

SaintJD wrote…

loosehead wrote…

SaintJD wrote…

loosehead wrote…

If it's true it was Cortese who rented a house from Benali why is benali suing the club? why isn't this a legal action against just Cortese? what has ambassadorial got t6o do with a house? Benali & LeTissier owe there whole standing in life through the Saints. Benali was cr+p LeTissier brilliant. what teams came in with high offers for Benali? How can anyone say he's Saints through & through when he's suing the Saints?
I'd say I'm Saints through and through. Does that mean if Nicola runs me over deliberately tomorrow and reverses over my head, I should get up and shake his hand? Or phone Lawyers for You? Or go to hospital? Just asking.
so you think you'll survive to sue then? Sorry I would argue Saints position till I couldn't talk any more. I went & saw Bennet Benali & all those Saints teams before the FA Cup win & after. I remember going to every away game the year McMenemy took over & we got relegated & I still went to every away match. I remember standing under the east stand looking up & seeing the seats empty yet I was called a yob. I would never consider suing the Saints over a private matter & to compare it to some one deliberately knocking you over is sick. After the years of the board selling for as much as they could get to Rupert Lowe & the devastation he wrought then to go through all that only to be saved from Pompey's fate by Cortese's insistence to the Liebher family( Hope I spelt that right) I can't believe how many fans are so against Cortese? Fine let an average footballer hang on to the apron strings of Saints & make a packet through appearances & interviews then sue his very bread & butter for more money. Just what would happen if the company say's enough's enough & pull out of Saints?
That's rubbish to be frank. I'm not saying this is what happened in Franny's case (and by the way whether he was a good player or not has absolutely nothing to do with his right to say he loves the club) are you honestly saying if the club dismantled your house and didn't want to pay for the damage then, as is likely the case, didn't respond to any of your complaints, you wouldn't have to take the matter further. As Nicola would say himself, this is business and, in business, if you let somebody walk over you you get what you deserve. I'm not against Cortese in the slightest, but I honestly don't believe Benali would be suing unless it was the absolute last resort. And in all the year's I've seen the guy, I don't view him as someone who chases the money. He is a decent, nice guy who loves the club. Same is true of Matt. Forget the amount of people who are against NC (not many in my opinion) but personally, I can't believe so many people are willing to jettison the views of people we have seen associated with the club for decades to blindly cosy up to a guy we know very little about, mainly because he likes to manage the media.

Well said.

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3:03pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Alice's dad's milkman says…

I am Alice's real dad.

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3:03pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Linesman says…

SaintJD wrote…

loosehead wrote…

SaintJD wrote…

loosehead wrote…

If it's true it was Cortese who rented a house from Benali why is benali suing the club? why isn't this a legal action against just Cortese? what has ambassadorial got t6o do with a house? Benali & LeTissier owe there whole standing in life through the Saints. Benali was cr+p LeTissier brilliant. what teams came in with high offers for Benali? How can anyone say he's Saints through & through when he's suing the Saints?
I'd say I'm Saints through and through. Does that mean if Nicola runs me over deliberately tomorrow and reverses over my head, I should get up and shake his hand? Or phone Lawyers for You? Or go to hospital? Just asking.
so you think you'll survive to sue then? Sorry I would argue Saints position till I couldn't talk any more. I went & saw Bennet Benali & all those Saints teams before the FA Cup win & after. I remember going to every away game the year McMenemy took over & we got relegated & I still went to every away match. I remember standing under the east stand looking up & seeing the seats empty yet I was called a yob. I would never consider suing the Saints over a private matter & to compare it to some one deliberately knocking you over is sick. After the years of the board selling for as much as they could get to Rupert Lowe & the devastation he wrought then to go through all that only to be saved from Pompey's fate by Cortese's insistence to the Liebher family( Hope I spelt that right) I can't believe how many fans are so against Cortese? Fine let an average footballer hang on to the apron strings of Saints & make a packet through appearances & interviews then sue his very bread & butter for more money. Just what would happen if the company say's enough's enough & pull out of Saints?
That's rubbish to be frank. I'm not saying this is what happened in Franny's case (and by the way whether he was a good player or not has absolutely nothing to do with his right to say he loves the club) are you honestly saying if the club dismantled your house and didn't want to pay for the damage then, as is likely the case, didn't respond to any of your complaints, you wouldn't have to take the matter further. As Nicola would say himself, this is business and, in business, if you let somebody walk over you you get what you deserve. I'm not against Cortese in the slightest, but I honestly don't believe Benali would be suing unless it was the absolute last resort. And in all the year's I've seen the guy, I don't view him as someone who chases the money. He is a decent, nice guy who loves the club. Same is true of Matt. Forget the amount of people who are against NC (not many in my opinion) but personally, I can't believe so many people are willing to jettison the views of people we have seen associated with the club for decades to blindly cosy up to a guy we know very little about, mainly because he likes to manage the media.

Well said.

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3:04pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Linesman says…

If I were a betting man, I would give odds that this will never come to court. I think that the club are seeing how far Francis is prepared to go, and will make him an offer that he will accept.

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3:06pm Thu 7 Feb 13 SaintsBTGOG says…

Yet another disgusting event at the hands of Nicola Cortese and his ego. Cortese leased FBs house in 2009 and caused allsorts of damage. Cortese then walked out the house unwilling to pay any of the bills. Obviously Cortese btw doesnt pay any of his bills they are all put through the club accounts. -cushty eh

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3:07pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Mush On The Beach says…

So I feel the world is our oyster this weekend, we may indeed get 3 rich points off the reigning champions. Spare a thought for the skunts, they are just clams no longer fans, a dying smelly breed buried DEEPLY in the mud off Portsea Scumland.

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3:12pm Thu 7 Feb 13 J7junctionseven says…

Mush On The Beach wrote…

So I feel the world is our oyster this weekend, we may indeed get 3 rich points off the reigning champions. Spare a thought for the skunts, they are just clams no longer fans, a dying smelly breed buried DEEPLY in the mud off Portsea Scumland.

Thought spared...just started smiling and then broke out into a belly laugh

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3:22pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Mush On The Beach says…

Linesman wrote…

If I were a betting man, I would give odds that this will never come to court. I think that the club are seeing how far Francis is prepared to go, and will make him an offer that he will accept.

So I feel the world is our oyster this weekend, we may indeed get 3 rich points off the reigning champions. Spare a thought for the skunts Linesman, they are just clams no longer fans, a dying smelly breed buried DEEPLY in the mud off Portsea Scumland.

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3:32pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Velleity says…

Alicesdad wrote…

Bring back Branfoot wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Bring back Branfoot wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Bring back Branfoot wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Bring back Branfoot wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Bring back Branfoot wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Yeah time to move on. A nice positive new thread form the echo would do the trick. How about one about some of the injured players making progress to full fitness or something like that. You know, football related threads. Also, how about he echo getting rid of obvious trolls and wum's quicker in future so decent Saints or proper football fans don't end up retaliating and then getting their wrists slapped by the echo for doing so. Prevention has always been the best cure hasn't it? COYR
Don't you ever post any football comments! You always seem to be getting into spats with Skates and WUMs. You are probably the biggest WUM on here because you don't post about football and choose to bait others. And then to top it all you go round complaining when you come off second best! I'm waiting for a foul mouthed response because that's all you know how to do!
I think you are confusing me with someone who really cares about your opinions and the over use of exclamation marks in your posts.
Under the cloak of being a Saints fan you come on here and gob off. Usually vitriolic and full of abusive language, no creativity or class! You're an unlikable version of Scrappy Doo! Playing out the geezer role on this thread, but ultimately fooling nobody. Buzz off you little fly!!!
Ooooh get you...Even more exclamation marks...Calm down. Why do you feel the need to start being abusive. You seem to be contradicting yourself and making yourself out to be a fool.
Exclamation marks are now abusive! Seventh I tried to reason with you but alas I'd get more sense from a wall! Oops another pesky exclamation mark! Run along now you're missing Cbeebies!
You're boring me now and far too childish for me to waste anymore time exchanging pleasantries with you on here. I'll be at the Waterfront in Shamrock Quy from 1pm on Saturday.
No you won't! Lol! I mean coming off second best with a Manc, really Seventh! Don't think we didn't notice the dirty little glory hunter giving you a verbal spanking. Yet again coming off second best, old habits die hard I guess hey seventh!
I'll be at the Waterfront in Shamrock Quay from 1pm on Saturday.
Are you shadow boxing right now, Rocky? You are eluding to a fight. I don't partake in violence, dreadful business! Plus you prat you have broadcasted it on a newspaper site. You think I'd be involved in some sort of freak show with you! It wouldn't even be a contest you fly! Leave the the tough guy bit for your Breezer drinking friends.
Yeah !!

Do you predict a riot?

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3:44pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Strasbourg Saint says…

SaintsBTGOG wrote…

Yet another disgusting event at the hands of Nicola Cortese and his ego. Cortese leased FBs house in 2009 and caused allsorts of damage. Cortese then walked out the house unwilling to pay any of the bills. Obviously Cortese btw doesnt pay any of his bills they are all put through the club accounts. -cushty eh

Wouldn't it be interesting if someone close to NC read this and asked you to prove your accusations before a judge? Be scared, unless, of course, you can back your 'facts' up.

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3:46pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Harold K Steptoe says…

rocketone wrote…

My my my! Some people really do have their heads right up their arse , don't they? !!!!!!! As a football club Saints are in a very emotional business. I was there when Franny scored and chanted his name as loud as anyone. I saw him and Le Tiss on Saturday morning Sky with Lovejoy quite a long time ago. I thought then that I couldn't see what he was moaning about. The carpet got damaged and replaced with a proper timber floor. A real expensive floor, not some cheap B & Q laminate. Get over it I thought at the time, still do. BbB stop your abuse of fellow posters, really don't see why you go off on one sometimes. This a site for opinions and yours is as welcome as anyone's. But why take everything so personally? 77777 leave it!!!!!!!!!

Almost correct, my mums friend who shes never met has a friend who's neighbour says, the carpet was taken up nice and neat then a wood effect floor(better than Karndean) fitted then replaced later with the old carpet all neat and tidy just like all the other works carried out.

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3:56pm Thu 7 Feb 13 OSPREYSAINT says…

MGRA wrote…

why on earth should a meeting between MLT and NC be kept secret ? I can think of absolutely no reason. The meeting would obviously be minuted/recorded ( otherwise it would be pointless ) no one in their right mind would agree to a gagging order on such a meeting since the issues raised would be about the character of each individual and the doubts each of them has cast on the other. So the only conclusion I can see is that this is a smoke screen and set up..... and/or NC just has not got the b&lls to meet Matt face to face.... I just see a head honcho to scared to attend the press conference of his new manager and too scared to meet a club legend face-to-face and talk honestly and on the record.... so why you are all wondering why Matt "can't keep his gob shut" and i wondering why NC is so scared of going on the record with certain subjects...

It should be done in private because it has got absolutely nothing to do with anyone else, unless they themselves mutually decide to go public. It takes two to tango, if one renages on the other mission failed, if they come to a suitable agreement and tell everyone all is well, mission succesful, move on.

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3:59pm Thu 7 Feb 13 st1halo says…

Alicesdad wrote…

Alicesdad wrote…

Alicesdad wrote…

Alicesdad wrote…

OK what seat number are you ? You ***********ing tra****ingusit werd****gun***ther
Who are you calling a ***********ing tra****ingusit werd****gun***ther
You
Im busy ...

Alice, Stop pickin on Alice and mind your own business!!! And you Alice ffs!!!! STID

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4:00pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Sainty saint saint says…

MGRA wrote…

why on earth should a meeting between MLT and NC be kept secret ? I can think of absolutely no reason. The meeting would obviously be minuted/recorded ( otherwise it would be pointless ) no one in their right mind would agree to a gagging order on such a meeting since the issues raised would be about the character of each individual and the doubts each of them has cast on the other. So the only conclusion I can see is that this is a smoke screen and set up..... and/or NC just has not got the b&lls to meet Matt face to face.... I just see a head honcho to scared to attend the press conference of his new manager and too scared to meet a club legend face-to-face and talk honestly and on the record.... so why you are all wondering why Matt "can't keep his gob shut" and i wondering why NC is so scared of going on the record with certain subjects...

Maybe NC wanted to keep the meeting private because it was a personal matter between two individuals rather than a business matter relating to Saints? Perhaps he thought playing a personal disagreement out in the media was a little, shall we say, lacking in class? Perhaps he wanted to hear exactly what MLT had to say and why he had a grievance in private before any possibility for media propaganda? Perhaps he thought that making the meeting public would make it look like he was trying to gain positive PR from a personal situation? Who really knows? Not you, I guarantee that.

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4:07pm Thu 7 Feb 13 shesaint says…

pollthom wrote…

I have it on good authority, that Cortese rented a house from Benali when he first came to England. Cortese proceeded to carry out works to the house without permission. The house was left looking like a building site. This is why Benali has taken court action.

I have heard the same. I think that there is a lot that goes on at the club and behind the scenes that the public are not made aware of. I also heard that Echo photographers must stand on the public pavement outside the club to take photos, and not on any part of the property belonging to the stadium. That alone seems very petty to me.

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4:10pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Jesus_02 says…

franiow wrote…

The argument about the house is apparently that SFC claim the deposit covers any damage caused. Originally reported that a carpet was replaced with a wood floor...now story getting added to...few of us know, so best not to speculate. As for the ambassadorial contracts, several players were on big money they were still drawing when we were in administration with no money. Contracts cancelled when Markus took over, so grounds for a legal dispute. Benali knows he is best served by silence and letting the courts decide. Tiss is entitled to his opinion, but as a public figure he should be careful what he says.

Le Tiss and Benali stopped playing for saints a while ago but still made a buck out of it and are basically unhappy that they can no longer do this. Its Funny how Dodd seems to have a good relatinship as he is actually playing a role in developing the club. I have no problem with Clause raising his profile by somehow involving himself in the aquasition of Forren but Le Tiss just doesnt present himself well at all. Cortese has come out of this looking rather well in my opinion. He gave him a chance and Le Tiss made a twit of himself!

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4:16pm Thu 7 Feb 13 OSPREYSAINT says…

shesaint wrote…

pollthom wrote…

I have it on good authority, that Cortese rented a house from Benali when he first came to England. Cortese proceeded to carry out works to the house without permission. The house was left looking like a building site. This is why Benali has taken court action.
I have heard the same. I think that there is a lot that goes on at the club and behind the scenes that the public are not made aware of. I also heard that Echo photographers must stand on the public pavement outside the club to take photos, and not on any part of the property belonging to the stadium. That alone seems very petty to me.

You have heard? Name your sources so that we can all believe.

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4:19pm Thu 7 Feb 13 st1halo says…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Exclamation mark, anyone?

Do you need some J7? only I've just found these !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! in Branfoots cupboard Think I'll use some !!! STID!!!

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4:25pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Stroppy_gramps says…

all this does is marginalise Le Tiss. drop it and move on. Big game against City this weekend. got to make sure we outsing the away fans.

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4:31pm Thu 7 Feb 13 warrens 76 says…

Confucious wrote…

I have successfully contacted Lawyers for You in order to sue the club for compensation (on a 'no win no fee' basis) over a variety of matters including: * Willful selection of Fox and Guly * Three separate accounts of gross goalkeeping negligence. * Two counts of careless premature substitutions of Lambert. * Malicious failure to hire adequate CB cover during the summer.

Funnily enough i represent injurylawyersforyoua ndyou..to take action over the dreadful workplace injuries sustained by A. Lallana and J. Fonte, clearly negligence by allowing workers to clearly be on a 'football pitch' were repeated phyical injuries have been sustained over many years is gross negligence by SFC... To avoid lengthy and costly legal action I expect SFC to pay hush money immediately and myself on behalf of the clients will not take the matter further... ...30% fees for money collected do not corelate to our taking ANY of their rightful compensation but are a true and fair reflection of the marketing costs involved in 'encouraging' people to swindle no sorry cheat no you misunderstand I meant obtain their rightful compensation. Any supporters who have recently attended football matches are encouraged to contact us on our unfit for human consumption hotline..pies, pasty's and hot dogs are all included in the torte action unless purchased at Farton pk which is a known health hazard and even we shysters will not win that one.

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4:32pm Thu 7 Feb 13 hedge end bob says…

tomw1234 wrote…

Strasbourg Saint wrote…

I know it's off thread and all that and I really am sorry for bring this up now at such an important moment in this feud, but is anyone else starting to get just a teeny-weeny bit excited that, at tea time on Saturday, the League Champions are in town and if we get a wee bit of luck, we have the talent to win and, if we do, then THIS might (and it is only a 'might') be the weekend when the world finally sits up and takes notice of the Leibherr revolution?
You aren't the only one mate. I'm looking forward to the game! I'm sure the atmosphere will be electric. Lets show City what we can do!

Me too and i'm some old grandad of 70 with nothing better to do !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so watch it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!! the game that is!!!

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4:33pm Thu 7 Feb 13 J7junctionseven says…

st1halo wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Exclamation mark, anyone?
Do you need some J7? only I've just found these !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! in Branfoots cupboard Think I'll use some !!! STID!!!

Cheers mate. I was starting to have withdrawal symptoms......Feel a lot better now and glad you've used up some of his stash.

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4:35pm Thu 7 Feb 13 J7junctionseven says…

hedge end bob wrote…

tomw1234 wrote…

Strasbourg Saint wrote…

I know it's off thread and all that and I really am sorry for bring this up now at such an important moment in this feud, but is anyone else starting to get just a teeny-weeny bit excited that, at tea time on Saturday, the League Champions are in town and if we get a wee bit of luck, we have the talent to win and, if we do, then THIS might (and it is only a 'might') be the weekend when the world finally sits up and takes notice of the Leibherr revolution?
You aren't the only one mate. I'm looking forward to the game! I'm sure the atmosphere will be electric. Lets show City what we can do!
Me too and i'm some old grandad of 70 with nothing better to do !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so watch it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!! the game that is!!!

Nice touch Bob.....:o) and St1 Halo

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4:36pm Thu 7 Feb 13 warrens 76 says…

Strasbourg Saint wrote…

SaintsBTGOG wrote…

Yet another disgusting event at the hands of Nicola Cortese and his ego. Cortese leased FBs house in 2009 and caused allsorts of damage. Cortese then walked out the house unwilling to pay any of the bills. Obviously Cortese btw doesnt pay any of his bills they are all put through the club accounts. -cushty eh
Wouldn't it be interesting if someone close to NC read this and asked you to prove your accusations before a judge? Be scared, unless, of course, you can back your 'facts' up.

Btgog or kent or whoever shut up..and stop mentioning solent interiors.

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4:36pm Thu 7 Feb 13 100%Saint says…

Stroppy_gramps wrote…

all this does is marginalise Le Tiss. drop it and move on. Big game against City this weekend. got to make sure we outsing the away fans.

I agree, this is a big game against City and we need to get behind our team and outsing the City fans.

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4:38pm Thu 7 Feb 13 J7junctionseven says…

Looks like HE Bob's been in BBB's cupboard as well......How many has the weirdo got in there...:o) Anyone else found any?

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4:41pm Thu 7 Feb 13 noodlesnewman says…

Ross123 wrote…

tomw1234 wrote…

since 1885 wrote…

Some of us are still behind you and Tiss Franny. We ain't all mercenaries! You're Southampton through and through son!
You'll find many fans that love Le Tiss but you wont find many that believe he's right to attack the club with his childish and unsubstantiated comments on Twitter and The Echo. Cortese has every right to ban Benali and has every right to cancel the meeting as Le Tiss went spouting off to the media at the first opportunity. Stupid man.
im on le tissiers and frans side. they both belong to the club. cortese treating people like crap again!

dont agree mate there s ways of doing things and as much as i still worship legod he shouldnt of spouted off to the media s . Cortese s representing one of the wealthiest families on the planet and this means they dont like their laundry being aired in public this is how real classy people behave ! Or would you like some two bob bit fake shake backing things like our fishy mates down the road.more to liebherrs than meets the eye ! google em up ...

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4:46pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Bingo from Sholing says…

Le Tiss, we know is all heart, and so is Franny. It is tempting to say move on from the bickering for the sake of the Club. However some things are more important than whether the club is in the Premiership or the Championship.Le Tiss I feel sure would always stand against the school bully. I feel sure too, that he is Southampton through and through. A Southampton boy who happens to come from an island with close ties with our great city. Le Tiss values people above money. Mr Cortese probably would not be able to understand those values. However Mr Cortese has to understand that a large part of the equity of the club he controls is a indefatigable human spirit, that is based upon generations of supporters and players. Mr Cortese will never be the chairman he longs to be until he recognises the value of people, and appreciates that football support relies on history, and relies on the people that made history. Le Tiss,Benali, Jim Steele; supporters like my dad (now deceased), your dad, grandfather, uncle etc and countless others are Southampton FC's history. They are there to be remembered and respected because they form part of the intrinsic value of the Club. This value does not show up in the balance sheet, but take it away and the club is worthless. Mr Cortese, please sit down with the past players of our club and sort this out, for all our sakes.

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4:47pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Alicesdad says…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Looks like HE Bob's been in BBB's cupboard as well......How many has the weirdo got in there...:o) Anyone else found any?

Yeah !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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4:50pm Thu 7 Feb 13 noodlesnewman says…

alan.of.eastleigh wrote…

Crikey me, calm down people. We don't need to take sides on this. We just have to support the team on the pitch. Thank you Cortese for all you've done these last three and a half years. Thank you Le Tiss for hundreds of wonderful memories. Thank you Frannie for being such a warrier on the field and a true gentleman off it. Now let's move on. Quietly.

ANOTHER WAY OF LOOKING AT THINGS IF IT WASNT FOR CORTESE AND CO HOW MANY GOOD PLAYERS WOULD STAY AT SAINTS ME THINKS SHAW AND LALLANA TO NAME BUT A FEW BE LONG GONE .

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4:57pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Tell it as I see it says…

SaintsBTGOG wrote…

Yet another disgusting event at the hands of Nicola Cortese and his ego. Cortese leased FBs house in 2009 and caused allsorts of damage. Cortese then walked out the house unwilling to pay any of the bills. Obviously Cortese btw doesnt pay any of his bills they are all put through the club accounts. -cushty eh

And you know this for an absloute fact how?

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5:00pm Thu 7 Feb 13 st1halo says…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Looks like HE Bob's been in BBB's cupboard as well......How many has the weirdo got in there...:o) Anyone else found any?

Kin ell! Just found a secret compartment and look! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He's a hoarder! We'll never get through these !!!!!!! STID!!!!!!

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5:03pm Thu 7 Feb 13 CB FRY LIVES says…

Mush On The Beach wrote…

Alice is a Hooligan with SPRINGS in her bounce. Another thought off topic . ... I stand totally impressed at what the Geordies are doing in signing class options for dollar value from the African players, Moussa Sissok is the latest bargain from African origins. I hope Radhi Jaïdi has enjoyed the Nations cup and can weave some magic for our future.

About time Jaidi earnt his corn and found us a few decent african prospects. COYR

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5:04pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Alicesdad says…

What a dynamic and truly buzzing thread this has been. I'm so looking forward to yet another rehash of it all tomorrow. There will be a picture of Cortese (I think its his turn) and a heading "The man behind the Myth - What makes Nicola Cortese tick" The real reason he doesn't meet Le Tiss , the true story of how Benali was conned by Lawyers R'Us to sue the club. This will be followed later by other expose stories "why is Terry Paine hiding in South Africa" the truth about his involvement with the great train robbery. The truth about Ted Bates - why he is never seen at St Marys - at last the Echo has the facts !! The truth at last .. why Ali Dia turned down a five year contract at the Dell. The truth about Mick Channon's testimonial - new fixing scandal - how Stan Bowles and Mick put one over the bookies. Why Le Tiss stopped betting on the first throw in - too many people were betting it would be him that put it into touch !! Why Ron Davies may never play for Wales again. I can't wait .. but please .. no more about "meetings with Cortese"

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5:09pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Tell it as I see it says…

Bingo from Sholing wrote…

Le Tiss, we know is all heart, and so is Franny. It is tempting to say move on from the bickering for the sake of the Club. However some things are more important than whether the club is in the Premiership or the Championship.Le Tiss I feel sure would always stand against the school bully. I feel sure too, that he is Southampton through and through. A Southampton boy who happens to come from an island with close ties with our great city. Le Tiss values people above money. Mr Cortese probably would not be able to understand those values. However Mr Cortese has to understand that a large part of the equity of the club he controls is a indefatigable human spirit, that is based upon generations of supporters and players. Mr Cortese will never be the chairman he longs to be until he recognises the value of people, and appreciates that football support relies on history, and relies on the people that made history. Le Tiss,Benali, Jim Steele; supporters like my dad (now deceased), your dad, grandfather, uncle etc and countless others are Southampton FC's history. They are there to be remembered and respected because they form part of the intrinsic value of the Club. This value does not show up in the balance sheet, but take it away and the club is worthless. Mr Cortese, please sit down with the past players of our club and sort this out, for all our sakes.

I totally respect your sentiments however there are problems with your reasoning. Terry Paine - newly appointed Club President. Jason Dodd - Well respected for his work with the youth team. John Sydenham has always been welcomed at the club when he visits the UK. Still visits regularly (usually as a guest of one or other of the exec box holders). It seems Mr Cortese only has issues with ex players who see fit to bad mouth him and/or the club in the press, now why on earth could that be?

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5:13pm Thu 7 Feb 13 MGRA says…

noodlesnewman wrote…

Ross123 wrote…

tomw1234 wrote…

since 1885 wrote…

Some of us are still behind you and Tiss Franny. We ain't all mercenaries! You're Southampton through and through son!
You'll find many fans that love Le Tiss but you wont find many that believe he's right to attack the club with his childish and unsubstantiated comments on Twitter and The Echo. Cortese has every right to ban Benali and has every right to cancel the meeting as Le Tiss went spouting off to the media at the first opportunity. Stupid man.
im on le tissiers and frans side. they both belong to the club. cortese treating people like crap again!
dont agree mate there s ways of doing things and as much as i still worship legod he shouldnt of spouted off to the media s . Cortese s representing one of the wealthiest families on the planet and this means they dont like their laundry being aired in public this is how real classy people behave ! Or would you like some two bob bit fake shake backing things like our fishy mates down the road.more to liebherrs than meets the eye ! google em up ...

it nothing to do with being "really classy" its about spinning stories to get what you want. Real class is having the spine to be at the same press conference as your new manager.

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5:14pm Thu 7 Feb 13 info@denisbundy.co.uk says…

tomw1234 wrote…

since 1885 wrote…

Some of us are still behind you and Tiss Franny. We ain't all mercenaries! You're Southampton through and through son!
You'll find many fans that love Le Tiss but you wont find many that believe he's right to attack the club with his childish and unsubstantiated comments on Twitter and The Echo. Cortese has every right to ban Benali and has every right to cancel the meeting as Le Tiss went spouting off to the media at the first opportunity. Stupid man.

I think you should be aware of just what Francis Benali is suing Cortese for before you make comments like that. I believe that you might well have wanted to sue him yourself when it becomes common knowledge of just what happened, which it will.

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5:17pm Thu 7 Feb 13 loosehead says…

SaintJD wrote…

loosehead wrote…

SaintJD wrote…

loosehead wrote…

If it's true it was Cortese who rented a house from Benali why is benali suing the club? why isn't this a legal action against just Cortese? what has ambassadorial got t6o do with a house? Benali & LeTissier owe there whole standing in life through the Saints. Benali was cr+p LeTissier brilliant. what teams came in with high offers for Benali? How can anyone say he's Saints through & through when he's suing the Saints?
I'd say I'm Saints through and through. Does that mean if Nicola runs me over deliberately tomorrow and reverses over my head, I should get up and shake his hand? Or phone Lawyers for You? Or go to hospital? Just asking.
so you think you'll survive to sue then? Sorry I would argue Saints position till I couldn't talk any more. I went & saw Bennet Benali & all those Saints teams before the FA Cup win & after. I remember going to every away game the year McMenemy took over & we got relegated & I still went to every away match. I remember standing under the east stand looking up & seeing the seats empty yet I was called a yob. I would never consider suing the Saints over a private matter & to compare it to some one deliberately knocking you over is sick. After the years of the board selling for as much as they could get to Rupert Lowe & the devastation he wrought then to go through all that only to be saved from Pompey's fate by Cortese's insistence to the Liebher family( Hope I spelt that right) I can't believe how many fans are so against Cortese? Fine let an average footballer hang on to the apron strings of Saints & make a packet through appearances & interviews then sue his very bread & butter for more money. Just what would happen if the company say's enough's enough & pull out of Saints?
That's rubbish to be frank. I'm not saying this is what happened in Franny's case (and by the way whether he was a good player or not has absolutely nothing to do with his right to say he loves the club) are you honestly saying if the club dismantled your house and didn't want to pay for the damage then, as is likely the case, didn't respond to any of your complaints, you wouldn't have to take the matter further. As Nicola would say himself, this is business and, in business, if you let somebody walk over you you get what you deserve. I'm not against Cortese in the slightest, but I honestly don't believe Benali would be suing unless it was the absolute last resort. And in all the year's I've seen the guy, I don't view him as someone who chases the money. He is a decent, nice guy who loves the club. Same is true of Matt. Forget the amount of people who are against NC (not many in my opinion) but personally, I can't believe so many people are willing to jettison the views of people we have seen associated with the club for decades to blindly cosy up to a guy we know very little about, mainly because he likes to manage the media.

for one it wasn't the club who dismantled his house was it? If it's true it was Cortese so if he's suing the club for it he'll get thrown out on a technicality as he's suing the wrong one. I laugh when I read these posts about Saints through & through from fans. As I've said I was there the year we got relegated the next year with seats empty & the only fans being under the stands I was also there when we lost to Ipswich & if I remember correctly it was 7.0. my friends & I went all over this country supporting Saints. then we had a good cup run then we were going to Wembley suddenly we had fans coming out of the woodwork. my friends couldn't get to the dell in time & couldn't get a ticket to the final & the next year same thing about season tickets so they stopped going. Exactly when did you start supporting Saints? I've seen some great players at Saints but Benali wasn't one of them. he says Cortese wrecked his home exactly what proof has he got & why are you so ready to believe him instead of the saviour of your club?

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5:20pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Suttonite says…

The reason that Franny is suing Saints is because Cortese is employed bySaints the rental would have been made by the Club. Franny was actually a decent left back in his time. All his games were at the top level. Matt is right to support him and his ex-colleagues.Cortes e is not a respectful man and is not the saviour of our Club. There is nothing wrong with Matt talking to the media has revealed nothing that was not already in the public arena.Most has been revealed by the Echo. All this agression towards Matt and Franny is totally out of order and probably mostly from those who are too young to understand the history of the Club or can't see beneath the surface of a very singleminded Italian businessman.

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5:25pm Thu 7 Feb 13 OSPREYSAINT says…

MGRA wrote…

noodlesnewman wrote…

Ross123 wrote…

tomw1234 wrote…

since 1885 wrote…

Some of us are still behind you and Tiss Franny. We ain't all mercenaries! You're Southampton through and through son!
You'll find many fans that love Le Tiss but you wont find many that believe he's right to attack the club with his childish and unsubstantiated comments on Twitter and The Echo. Cortese has every right to ban Benali and has every right to cancel the meeting as Le Tiss went spouting off to the media at the first opportunity. Stupid man.
im on le tissiers and frans side. they both belong to the club. cortese treating people like crap again!
dont agree mate there s ways of doing things and as much as i still worship legod he shouldnt of spouted off to the media s . Cortese s representing one of the wealthiest families on the planet and this means they dont like their laundry being aired in public this is how real classy people behave ! Or would you like some two bob bit fake shake backing things like our fishy mates down the road.more to liebherrs than meets the eye ! google em up ...
it nothing to do with being "really classy" its about spinning stories to get what you want. Real class is having the spine to be at the same press conference as your new manager.

I lost the plot with what you have tried to say here, however if you seek class look at the latest business partner:- http://www.saintsfc. co.uk/news/article/e terna-becomes-offici al-timekeeper-642533 .aspx It's about time! Now if they can get Bose to sort out the sound system I would be most impressed.

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5:26pm Thu 7 Feb 13 warrens 76 says…

Confucious..give us some humour...blöödy boring posts either dissing chairman or Matt..not interested lets have some fun.

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5:39pm Thu 7 Feb 13 TEBOURBA says…

No individual takes legal action unless they consider they have been very badly wronged and have suffered loss and expense, the legal costs are prohibitive. Franny obviousy considers he has a very strong case and is risking his own money in legal costs, as did the Directors of Solent Interiors No doubt Cortese, the shyster, was devious enough to let SFC lease the property in its name, so Franny has no option but to sue the club he loves and served so well. Of course the costs of defending the shyster's abuse of Franny's property will be met by SFC Ltd., not a penny will come out of the shyster's pocket. Who will pay in the end? why the Saints fans through the turnstiles. Wake up all those who have so quickly forgotten Matty and Franny's contribution to the Saints --- we are being lead by a devious, conniving shyster who cares nothing for others be they programme sellers, ex Saints players , honest Contractors, and last but not least, well respected loyal managers. The shyster was lining up Nigel for the sack regardless of the team's improvement. Next thing the Cortese supporters will be telling us is that Chris Huhne is a great guy -- to my mind they are both beneath contempt. As ye sow so shall ye reap!

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5:44pm Thu 7 Feb 13 warrens 76 says…

TEBOURBA wrote…

No individual takes legal action unless they consider they have been very badly wronged and have suffered loss and expense, the legal costs are prohibitive. Franny obviousy considers he has a very strong case and is risking his own money in legal costs, as did the Directors of Solent Interiors No doubt Cortese, the shyster, was devious enough to let SFC lease the property in its name, so Franny has no option but to sue the club he loves and served so well. Of course the costs of defending the shyster's abuse of Franny's property will be met by SFC Ltd., not a penny will come out of the shyster's pocket. Who will pay in the end? why the Saints fans through the turnstiles. Wake up all those who have so quickly forgotten Matty and Franny's contribution to the Saints --- we are being lead by a devious, conniving shyster who cares nothing for others be they programme sellers, ex Saints players , honest Contractors, and last but not least, well respected loyal managers. The shyster was lining up Nigel for the sack regardless of the team's improvement. Next thing the Cortese supporters will be telling us is that Chris Huhne is a great guy -- to my mind they are both beneath contempt. As ye sow so shall ye reap!

He' s back....trebour the tw*t..

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5:45pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Suttonite says…

If you want to have fun, don't get involved in serious matters or encourage others to stop making comments about people without undestanding the facts.

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5:50pm Thu 7 Feb 13 angus mc coatup says…

warrens 76 wrote…

TEBOURBA wrote…

No individual takes legal action unless they consider they have been very badly wronged and have suffered loss and expense, the legal costs are prohibitive. Franny obviousy considers he has a very strong case and is risking his own money in legal costs, as did the Directors of Solent Interiors No doubt Cortese, the shyster, was devious enough to let SFC lease the property in its name, so Franny has no option but to sue the club he loves and served so well. Of course the costs of defending the shyster's abuse of Franny's property will be met by SFC Ltd., not a penny will come out of the shyster's pocket. Who will pay in the end? why the Saints fans through the turnstiles. Wake up all those who have so quickly forgotten Matty and Franny's contribution to the Saints --- we are being lead by a devious, conniving shyster who cares nothing for others be they programme sellers, ex Saints players , honest Contractors, and last but not least, well respected loyal managers. The shyster was lining up Nigel for the sack regardless of the team's improvement. Next thing the Cortese supporters will be telling us is that Chris Huhne is a great guy -- to my mind they are both beneath contempt. As ye sow so shall ye reap!
He' s back....trebour the tw*t..

he never went away.....just changes he's user name...

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5:53pm Thu 7 Feb 13 slugger says…

YAWN !

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5:59pm Thu 7 Feb 13 rocketone says…

Question for the borer. Why do you say ex-Saints players? There are several still working for the club. Terry Paine spring to mind? Troublemakers are not encouraged. Programme sellers? The replacements do exactly the same as before, just a lot more professionally. If you are going claim something as a fact then be prepared to give your source and evidence. There are people who post on here who know more than you do about some of the incidents you claim to have knowledge of.

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6:03pm Thu 7 Feb 13 SO50 Saint says…

Regarding the new programme sellers I wonder if as the weather warms up they will start to wear less clothes? Sounds good to me

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6:09pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Suttonite says…

rocketone wrote…

Question for the borer. Why do you say ex-Saints players? There are several still working for the club. Terry Paine spring to mind? Troublemakers are not encouraged. Programme sellers? The replacements do exactly the same as before, just a lot more professionally. If you are going claim something as a fact then be prepared to give your source and evidence. There are people who post on here who know more than you do about some of the incidents you claim to have knowledge of.

If you believe you and others have knowledge and information that some of us who have supported the club for upto 50 years or more don't, then please give us the facts don't join in slandering genuine Saints people. Cortese will never be one of those even if Saints are very successful with him in his present role.

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6:09pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Suttonite says…

rocketone wrote…

Question for the borer. Why do you say ex-Saints players? There are several still working for the club. Terry Paine spring to mind? Troublemakers are not encouraged. Programme sellers? The replacements do exactly the same as before, just a lot more professionally. If you are going claim something as a fact then be prepared to give your source and evidence. There are people who post on here who know more than you do about some of the incidents you claim to have knowledge of.

If you believe you and others have knowledge and information that some of us who have supported the club for upto 50 years or more don't, then please give us the facts don't join in slandering genuine Saints people. Cortese will never be one of those even if Saints are very successful with him in his present role.

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6:14pm Thu 7 Feb 13 warrens 76 says…

To us MLT and to a lesser degree (much) FB are important to us fans... ....however what do/did they mean to NC and Marcus, were where they in our time of financial armaggedon, naively MLT believing the emporer with no clothes almost allowed us to run out of time.... ...so from NC's perspective they were not relevant to our last minute survival nor do they bring anything to the clubs future...tough but there it is..

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6:23pm Thu 7 Feb 13 warrens 76 says…

Suttonite wrote…

rocketone wrote…

Question for the borer. Why do you say ex-Saints players? There are several still working for the club. Terry Paine spring to mind? Troublemakers are not encouraged. Programme sellers? The replacements do exactly the same as before, just a lot more professionally. If you are going claim something as a fact then be prepared to give your source and evidence. There are people who post on here who know more than you do about some of the incidents you claim to have knowledge of.
If you believe you and others have knowledge and information that some of us who have supported the club for upto 50 years or more don't, then please give us the facts don't join in slandering genuine Saints people. Cortese will never be one of those even if Saints are very successful with him in his present role.

Suttonite, a man who saves us from disappearing will never be a genuine Saints person..are you insane or have you short term memory loss... ..I do not agree with the 'apparent' handling of Nigel Adkins BUT i would never accuse him of not having anything but the clubs best interest's at heart.. You for some reason would not give him credit if he set fire to hisnuts and put them out with a cricket bat for the clubs cause..ergo you are not a Saint just a WUM.

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6:25pm Thu 7 Feb 13 MGRA says…

warrens 76 wrote…

To us MLT and to a lesser degree (much) FB are important to us fans... ....however what do/did they mean to NC and Marcus, were where they in our time of financial armaggedon, naively MLT believing the emporer with no clothes almost allowed us to run out of time.... ...so from NC's perspective they were not relevant to our last minute survival nor do they bring anything to the clubs future...tough but there it is..

they should mean everything to NC since without heretige a club is nothing. His dream of a 45,000 seater stadium hosting European football will not happen if a sizeable minority of the grass roots support dwindles.

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6:25pm Thu 7 Feb 13 St.Yorkie says…

There are obviously 2-sides to every story. I believe in the justice system to sort it out. If SFC is wrong then should pay, equally if FB has no leg to stand on he should also pay the price...no doubt costs! From an outsiders view point the law is the law, and just because you are a big company, doesn't mean you can bully the small company or individual just because! FB must have a case or it would not have gone this far. SFC are trying to save face as far as I can see. If rumours are true there will be an out of court settlement at the last minute so the club's name is not dragged through the mud again. Just because FB is an ex-Saints player "the club" possibly thinks his loyalty will see him give in...but why should anyone give ground? Anyway why all the articles on this - can we have more about the important matter of the games ahead?

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6:28pm Thu 7 Feb 13 OSPREYSAINT says…

TEBOURBA wrote…

No individual takes legal action unless they consider they have been very badly wronged and have suffered loss and expense, the legal costs are prohibitive. Franny obviousy considers he has a very strong case and is risking his own money in legal costs, as did the Directors of Solent Interiors No doubt Cortese, the shyster, was devious enough to let SFC lease the property in its name, so Franny has no option but to sue the club he loves and served so well. Of course the costs of defending the shyster's abuse of Franny's property will be met by SFC Ltd., not a penny will come out of the shyster's pocket. Who will pay in the end? why the Saints fans through the turnstiles. Wake up all those who have so quickly forgotten Matty and Franny's contribution to the Saints --- we are being lead by a devious, conniving shyster who cares nothing for others be they programme sellers, ex Saints players , honest Contractors, and last but not least, well respected loyal managers. The shyster was lining up Nigel for the sack regardless of the team's improvement. Next thing the Cortese supporters will be telling us is that Chris Huhne is a great guy -- to my mind they are both beneath contempt. As ye sow so shall ye reap!

You are very naive if you think that there are not people who try to use the Courts to obtain money by false means, I hasten to add that there is no evidence of that in this case, but it happens, that is why we have a judicial system, leave it to them to sort it out. Your obsession with NC is clouding your judgement, and the way you keep posting is making you look as foolish as MLTs ramblings (IMO), none of us have forgotten the contribution of Franny and Matt but you and a few others, seem to have conveniently forgotten who saved the Club from total meltdown and destruction. Again you refer to NAs departure as out of order, you simply don't know the truth and are not qualified to say. The Chris Huhne reference is totally out of order and has no place in this argument. Why are you still here? You obviously hate Southampton FC so go and support someone else.

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6:28pm Thu 7 Feb 13 warrens 76 says…

MGRA wrote…

warrens 76 wrote…

To us MLT and to a lesser degree (much) FB are important to us fans... ....however what do/did they mean to NC and Marcus, were where they in our time of financial armaggedon, naively MLT believing the emporer with no clothes almost allowed us to run out of time.... ...so from NC's perspective they were not relevant to our last minute survival nor do they bring anything to the clubs future...tough but there it is..
they should mean everything to NC since without heretige a club is nothing. His dream of a 45,000 seater stadium hosting European football will not happen if a sizeable minority of the grass roots support dwindles.

Rubbish...MLT constantly just keeping us up is not heritage, it's one step from a disaster that did eventually happen once he had gone ..no one can play forever.... Heritage IS Europe, trophys, big crowds...wake up..

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6:29pm Thu 7 Feb 13 st1halo says…

warrens 76 wrote…

To us MLT and to a lesser degree (much) FB are important to us fans... ....however what do/did they mean to NC and Marcus, were where they in our time of financial armaggedon, naively MLT believing the emporer with no clothes almost allowed us to run out of time.... ...so from NC's perspective they were not relevant to our last minute survival nor do they bring anything to the clubs future...tough but there it is..

Yep!

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6:31pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Leicestersaint says…

It is all vey sad but from where I see things it is Mr Cortese who is damaging the club's reputation with ridiculous petty feuds - I just don't think this is the true Saints way. Sad.

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6:33pm Thu 7 Feb 13 warrens 76 says…

OSPREYSAINT wrote…

TEBOURBA wrote…

No individual takes legal action unless they consider they have been very badly wronged and have suffered loss and expense, the legal costs are prohibitive. Franny obviousy considers he has a very strong case and is risking his own money in legal costs, as did the Directors of Solent Interiors No doubt Cortese, the shyster, was devious enough to let SFC lease the property in its name, so Franny has no option but to sue the club he loves and served so well. Of course the costs of defending the shyster's abuse of Franny's property will be met by SFC Ltd., not a penny will come out of the shyster's pocket. Who will pay in the end? why the Saints fans through the turnstiles. Wake up all those who have so quickly forgotten Matty and Franny's contribution to the Saints --- we are being lead by a devious, conniving shyster who cares nothing for others be they programme sellers, ex Saints players , honest Contractors, and last but not least, well respected loyal managers. The shyster was lining up Nigel for the sack regardless of the team's improvement. Next thing the Cortese supporters will be telling us is that Chris Huhne is a great guy -- to my mind they are both beneath contempt. As ye sow so shall ye reap!
You are very naive if you think that there are not people who try to use the Courts to obtain money by false means, I hasten to add that there is no evidence of that in this case, but it happens, that is why we have a judicial system, leave it to them to sort it out. Your obsession with NC is clouding your judgement, and the way you keep posting is making you look as foolish as MLTs ramblings (IMO), none of us have forgotten the contribution of Franny and Matt but you and a few others, seem to have conveniently forgotten who saved the Club from total meltdown and destruction. Again you refer to NAs departure as out of order, you simply don't know the truth and are not qualified to say. The Chris Huhne reference is totally out of order and has no place in this argument. Why are you still here? You obviously hate Southampton FC so go and support someone else.

Osprey I can understand Trebour or anyone constantly posting on their own website and engaging in differences... ...however him above and Kent.MGRA all seem to only come on to sow dissension, what sad and lonely people get kicks doing that... ..only thing i can think of is the sly dratsab who scratches your car with no benefit to them whatsoever other than upsetting the owner...

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6:34pm Thu 7 Feb 13 OSPREYSAINT says…

MGRA wrote…

warrens 76 wrote…

To us MLT and to a lesser degree (much) FB are important to us fans... ....however what do/did they mean to NC and Marcus, were where they in our time of financial armaggedon, naively MLT believing the emporer with no clothes almost allowed us to run out of time.... ...so from NC's perspective they were not relevant to our last minute survival nor do they bring anything to the clubs future...tough but there it is..
they should mean everything to NC since without heretige a club is nothing. His dream of a 45,000 seater stadium hosting European football will not happen if a sizeable minority of the grass roots support dwindles.

Is there any sign of grass root decline? Didn't someone say that Saturdays game is another sell out? They aren't all plastics, and some that are will soon become grass roots if we stay up and move on. You sound as if you want the Team to fail just to justify your obsession, sorry I don't think that is going to happen, we are being run by a man on a mission and neggys like you are not going to stop him.

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6:43pm Thu 7 Feb 13 OSPREYSAINT says…

warrens 76 wrote…

OSPREYSAINT wrote…

TEBOURBA wrote…

No individual takes legal action unless they consider they have been very badly wronged and have suffered loss and expense, the legal costs are prohibitive. Franny obviousy considers he has a very strong case and is risking his own money in legal costs, as did the Directors of Solent Interiors No doubt Cortese, the shyster, was devious enough to let SFC lease the property in its name, so Franny has no option but to sue the club he loves and served so well. Of course the costs of defending the shyster's abuse of Franny's property will be met by SFC Ltd., not a penny will come out of the shyster's pocket. Who will pay in the end? why the Saints fans through the turnstiles. Wake up all those who have so quickly forgotten Matty and Franny's contribution to the Saints --- we are being lead by a devious, conniving shyster who cares nothing for others be they programme sellers, ex Saints players , honest Contractors, and last but not least, well respected loyal managers. The shyster was lining up Nigel for the sack regardless of the team's improvement. Next thing the Cortese supporters will be telling us is that Chris Huhne is a great guy -- to my mind they are both beneath contempt. As ye sow so shall ye reap!
You are very naive if you think that there are not people who try to use the Courts to obtain money by false means, I hasten to add that there is no evidence of that in this case, but it happens, that is why we have a judicial system, leave it to them to sort it out. Your obsession with NC is clouding your judgement, and the way you keep posting is making you look as foolish as MLTs ramblings (IMO), none of us have forgotten the contribution of Franny and Matt but you and a few others, seem to have conveniently forgotten who saved the Club from total meltdown and destruction. Again you refer to NAs departure as out of order, you simply don't know the truth and are not qualified to say. The Chris Huhne reference is totally out of order and has no place in this argument. Why are you still here? You obviously hate Southampton FC so go and support someone else.
Osprey I can understand Trebour or anyone constantly posting on their own website and engaging in differences... ...however him above and Kent.MGRA all seem to only come on to sow dissension, what sad and lonely people get kicks doing that... ..only thing i can think of is the sly dratsab who scratches your car with no benefit to them whatsoever other than upsetting the owner...

I am with you on this, but as long as they post their opinions, which they are fully entitled to, I will counter with my own view on the subject, I could be wrong too you know. I admit I got the NA sacking well wrong, I didn't see that coming, but I have got over the initial shock and moved on to the next level, I just wish others could do the same, it is the only way to proceed, Heritage and history is something to be proud of, I am proud of my involvement, I started supporting in 1952, even in the worse times, my passion has never dimmed because in adversity I have manned up accepted what has happened and moved on, it has done me no harm and has given me immense pleasure. What does give me no pleasure are the negative and abusive so called supporters that post their bile on here which serves no positive purpose.

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6:45pm Thu 7 Feb 13 warrens 76 says…

OSPREYSAINT wrote…

warrens 76 wrote…

OSPREYSAINT wrote…

TEBOURBA wrote…

No individual takes legal action unless they consider they have been very badly wronged and have suffered loss and expense, the legal costs are prohibitive. Franny obviousy considers he has a very strong case and is risking his own money in legal costs, as did the Directors of Solent Interiors No doubt Cortese, the shyster, was devious enough to let SFC lease the property in its name, so Franny has no option but to sue the club he loves and served so well. Of course the costs of defending the shyster's abuse of Franny's property will be met by SFC Ltd., not a penny will come out of the shyster's pocket. Who will pay in the end? why the Saints fans through the turnstiles. Wake up all those who have so quickly forgotten Matty and Franny's contribution to the Saints --- we are being lead by a devious, conniving shyster who cares nothing for others be they programme sellers, ex Saints players , honest Contractors, and last but not least, well respected loyal managers. The shyster was lining up Nigel for the sack regardless of the team's improvement. Next thing the Cortese supporters will be telling us is that Chris Huhne is a great guy -- to my mind they are both beneath contempt. As ye sow so shall ye reap!
You are very naive if you think that there are not people who try to use the Courts to obtain money by false means, I hasten to add that there is no evidence of that in this case, but it happens, that is why we have a judicial system, leave it to them to sort it out. Your obsession with NC is clouding your judgement, and the way you keep posting is making you look as foolish as MLTs ramblings (IMO), none of us have forgotten the contribution of Franny and Matt but you and a few others, seem to have conveniently forgotten who saved the Club from total meltdown and destruction. Again you refer to NAs departure as out of order, you simply don't know the truth and are not qualified to say. The Chris Huhne reference is totally out of order and has no place in this argument. Why are you still here? You obviously hate Southampton FC so go and support someone else.
Osprey I can understand Trebour or anyone constantly posting on their own website and engaging in differences... ...however him above and Kent.MGRA all seem to only come on to sow dissension, what sad and lonely people get kicks doing that... ..only thing i can think of is the sly dratsab who scratches your car with no benefit to them whatsoever other than upsetting the owner...
I am with you on this, but as long as they post their opinions, which they are fully entitled to, I will counter with my own view on the subject, I could be wrong too you know. I admit I got the NA sacking well wrong, I didn't see that coming, but I have got over the initial shock and moved on to the next level, I just wish others could do the same, it is the only way to proceed, Heritage and history is something to be proud of, I am proud of my involvement, I started supporting in 1952, even in the worse times, my passion has never dimmed because in adversity I have manned up accepted what has happened and moved on, it has done me no harm and has given me immense pleasure. What does give me no pleasure are the negative and abusive so called supporters that post their bile on here which serves no positive purpose.

Osprey you are real Saints..therefore you cannot be wrong, unless you are arguing with me! UTS

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6:48pm Thu 7 Feb 13 OSPREYSAINT says…

Leicestersaint wrote…

It is all vey sad but from where I see things it is Mr Cortese who is damaging the club's reputation with ridiculous petty feuds - I just don't think this is the true Saints way. Sad.

Has he? The feuds seem fairly one dimensional to me, stirred up by Press and purveyors of hearsay. Show me concrete proof of Nicola Cortese publicly slagging any single person at any time and I might start to believe.

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6:49pm Thu 7 Feb 13 OSPREYSAINT says…

warrens 76 wrote…

OSPREYSAINT wrote…

warrens 76 wrote…

OSPREYSAINT wrote…

TEBOURBA wrote…

No individual takes legal action unless they consider they have been very badly wronged and have suffered loss and expense, the legal costs are prohibitive. Franny obviousy considers he has a very strong case and is risking his own money in legal costs, as did the Directors of Solent Interiors No doubt Cortese, the shyster, was devious enough to let SFC lease the property in its name, so Franny has no option but to sue the club he loves and served so well. Of course the costs of defending the shyster's abuse of Franny's property will be met by SFC Ltd., not a penny will come out of the shyster's pocket. Who will pay in the end? why the Saints fans through the turnstiles. Wake up all those who have so quickly forgotten Matty and Franny's contribution to the Saints --- we are being lead by a devious, conniving shyster who cares nothing for others be they programme sellers, ex Saints players , honest Contractors, and last but not least, well respected loyal managers. The shyster was lining up Nigel for the sack regardless of the team's improvement. Next thing the Cortese supporters will be telling us is that Chris Huhne is a great guy -- to my mind they are both beneath contempt. As ye sow so shall ye reap!
You are very naive if you think that there are not people who try to use the Courts to obtain money by false means, I hasten to add that there is no evidence of that in this case, but it happens, that is why we have a judicial system, leave it to them to sort it out. Your obsession with NC is clouding your judgement, and the way you keep posting is making you look as foolish as MLTs ramblings (IMO), none of us have forgotten the contribution of Franny and Matt but you and a few others, seem to have conveniently forgotten who saved the Club from total meltdown and destruction. Again you refer to NAs departure as out of order, you simply don't know the truth and are not qualified to say. The Chris Huhne reference is totally out of order and has no place in this argument. Why are you still here? You obviously hate Southampton FC so go and support someone else.
Osprey I can understand Trebour or anyone constantly posting on their own website and engaging in differences... ...however him above and Kent.MGRA all seem to only come on to sow dissension, what sad and lonely people get kicks doing that... ..only thing i can think of is the sly dratsab who scratches your car with no benefit to them whatsoever other than upsetting the owner...
I am with you on this, but as long as they post their opinions, which they are fully entitled to, I will counter with my own view on the subject, I could be wrong too you know. I admit I got the NA sacking well wrong, I didn't see that coming, but I have got over the initial shock and moved on to the next level, I just wish others could do the same, it is the only way to proceed, Heritage and history is something to be proud of, I am proud of my involvement, I started supporting in 1952, even in the worse times, my passion has never dimmed because in adversity I have manned up accepted what has happened and moved on, it has done me no harm and has given me immense pleasure. What does give me no pleasure are the negative and abusive so called supporters that post their bile on here which serves no positive purpose.
Osprey you are real Saints..therefore you cannot be wrong, unless you are arguing with me! UTS

I am agreeing with you, and as I have said before, I would agree with them, but then we would both be wrong.....

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6:50pm Thu 7 Feb 13 slugger says…

To be honest I don't give a flying fcuk about Francis Benali's house or what Nicola may have done to it , it's none of my business (or anyone elses on here) , I also don't really care if Nicola and Matt never sort their differences ........... What I DO care about is the club I support and they're going from strength to strength at the moment , as long as this continues i'll support our chairman totally ......... COYR !!!!!!

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6:54pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Suttonite says…

warrens 76 wrote…

Suttonite wrote…

rocketone wrote…

Question for the borer. Why do you say ex-Saints players? There are several still working for the club. Terry Paine spring to mind? Troublemakers are not encouraged. Programme sellers? The replacements do exactly the same as before, just a lot more professionally. If you are going claim something as a fact then be prepared to give your source and evidence. There are people who post on here who know more than you do about some of the incidents you claim to have knowledge of.
If you believe you and others have knowledge and information that some of us who have supported the club for upto 50 years or more don't, then please give us the facts don't join in slandering genuine Saints people. Cortese will never be one of those even if Saints are very successful with him in his present role.
Suttonite, a man who saves us from disappearing will never be a genuine Saints person..are you insane or have you short term memory loss... ..I do not agree with the 'apparent' handling of Nigel Adkins BUT i would never accuse him of not having anything but the clubs best interest's at heart.. You for some reason would not give him credit if he set fire to hisnuts and put them out with a cricket bat for the clubs cause..ergo you are not a Saint just a WUM.

You really are so arrogant and are not able to understand the history, the culture or the facts.I am guessing from the way you write that youe are probably not old enough to know anyway. Cortese never saved our Club; Marcus Liebher saved our Club.Cortese works and lives for money and from his history, clearly enjoys the connections with celebrity that top level sport brings.Please look beyond what you believe you have witnessed over the last few years,which is such a short time in the Club's life.

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6:54pm Thu 7 Feb 13 warrens 76 says…

slugger wrote…

To be honest I don't give a flying fcuk about Francis Benali's house or what Nicola may have done to it , it's none of my business (or anyone elses on here) , I also don't really care if Nicola and Matt never sort their differences ........... What I DO care about is the club I support and they're going from strength to strength at the moment , as long as this continues i'll support our chairman totally ......... COYR !!!!!!

Red Army!

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6:54pm Thu 7 Feb 13 SO50 Saint says…

I'm with you on that one Slugger. Matt and Franny were great for the club but the future of the club is looking bright and that's all I care about

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6:55pm Thu 7 Feb 13 angus mc coatup says…

See that geezer who was trying to buy the skates,has got the elbow by the football league.The ongoing saga that Is farcemouth continues unabated. the liquidator awaits........

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6:56pm Thu 7 Feb 13 rocketone says…

Grass roots dwindling? Have you looked at the attendance records for the last five years? Increase year on year. Go back to last ten years and we still have the best attendance record on the south coast, whatever our league position or that of any other club around us. Do not make ridiculous claims that can be rubbished with the minimum of research. Echo once again printing a divisive story. On the OS they are looking forward to a game this week-end, Man City? Interview with Rickie and announcement of another international sponsor to go with those dastardly yachtie people.

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6:58pm Thu 7 Feb 13 warrens 76 says…

angus mc coatup wrote…

See that geezer who was trying to buy the skates,has got the elbow by the football league.The ongoing saga that Is farcemouth continues unabated. the liquidator awaits........

Do tell us more...I need cheering up..my blöödy hearts gone a bit bandy...

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6:59pm Thu 7 Feb 13 saintlysoul says…

slugger wrote…

To be honest I don't give a flying fcuk about Francis Benali's house or what Nicola may have done to it , it's none of my business (or anyone elses on here) , I also don't really care if Nicola and Matt never sort their differences ........... What I DO care about is the club I support and they're going from strength to strength at the moment , as long as this continues i'll support our chairman totally ......... COYR !!!!!!

Excellent post here here!!!!!

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7:02pm Thu 7 Feb 13 saintlysoul says…

SO50 Saint wrote…

Regarding the new programme sellers I wonder if as the weather warms up they will start to wear less clothes? Sounds good to me

Here's hoping!!!!!!!!!

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7:02pm Thu 7 Feb 13 OSPREYSAINT says…

Suttonite wrote…

warrens 76 wrote…

Suttonite wrote…

rocketone wrote…

Question for the borer. Why do you say ex-Saints players? There are several still working for the club. Terry Paine spring to mind? Troublemakers are not encouraged. Programme sellers? The replacements do exactly the same as before, just a lot more professionally. If you are going claim something as a fact then be prepared to give your source and evidence. There are people who post on here who know more than you do about some of the incidents you claim to have knowledge of.
If you believe you and others have knowledge and information that some of us who have supported the club for upto 50 years or more don't, then please give us the facts don't join in slandering genuine Saints people. Cortese will never be one of those even if Saints are very successful with him in his present role.
Suttonite, a man who saves us from disappearing will never be a genuine Saints person..are you insane or have you short term memory loss... ..I do not agree with the 'apparent' handling of Nigel Adkins BUT i would never accuse him of not having anything but the clubs best interest's at heart.. You for some reason would not give him credit if he set fire to hisnuts and put them out with a cricket bat for the clubs cause..ergo you are not a Saint just a WUM.
You really are so arrogant and are not able to understand the history, the culture or the facts.I am guessing from the way you write that youe are probably not old enough to know anyway. Cortese never saved our Club; Marcus Liebher saved our Club.Cortese works and lives for money and from his history, clearly enjoys the connections with celebrity that top level sport brings.Please look beyond what you believe you have witnessed over the last few years,which is such a short time in the Club's life.

Henry Ford was right history is bunk, you are so wrong about the Liebherr, Cortese combination, again another groundless accusation about what Nicola Cortese, which you clearly have made up with your biased and fertile imagination. Not once have you supplied an iota of proof for any of your claims. Your final statement, look beyond what you believe we have witnessed? What do you see that is beyond the truth of what we have, a football Club once on the verge of destruction, now riding 16th in the Premier League, how much higher do we have to go before you admit your faillings?

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7:04pm Thu 7 Feb 13 angus mc coatup says…

warrens 76 wrote…

angus mc coatup wrote…

See that geezer who was trying to buy the skates,has got the elbow by the football league.The ongoing saga that Is farcemouth continues unabated. the liquidator awaits........
Do tell us more...I need cheering up..my blöödy hearts gone a bit bandy...

They have basically told the ckub that they won't listen to any more bids.So the Trust are their only hope....oh dear It's back in the fan's hands ( slowly shakes head) to fund It again.

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7:05pm Thu 7 Feb 13 THEKILLER says…

The big boys (SFC) will always bully the small boys (Franny B) The bigger the company the more money they can throw at a legal claim the more likely it is that the small boys will give up as they cannot afford the costs, so give up even if they are in the right. In many cases paying more in legal cost than if would to settle the case just to say don't you dare question us we can do what we want, just as SFC have been doing for the last few years.

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7:06pm Thu 7 Feb 13 warrens 76 says…

Suttonite wrote…

warrens 76 wrote…

Suttonite wrote…

rocketone wrote…

Question for the borer. Why do you say ex-Saints players? There are several still working for the club. Terry Paine spring to mind? Troublemakers are not encouraged. Programme sellers? The replacements do exactly the same as before, just a lot more professionally. If you are going claim something as a fact then be prepared to give your source and evidence. There are people who post on here who know more than you do about some of the incidents you claim to have knowledge of.
If you believe you and others have knowledge and information that some of us who have supported the club for upto 50 years or more don't, then please give us the facts don't join in slandering genuine Saints people. Cortese will never be one of those even if Saints are very successful with him in his present role.
Suttonite, a man who saves us from disappearing will never be a genuine Saints person..are you insane or have you short term memory loss... ..I do not agree with the 'apparent' handling of Nigel Adkins BUT i would never accuse him of not having anything but the clubs best interest's at heart.. You for some reason would not give him credit if he set fire to hisnuts and put them out with a cricket bat for the clubs cause..ergo you are not a Saint just a WUM.
You really are so arrogant and are not able to understand the history, the culture or the facts.I am guessing from the way you write that youe are probably not old enough to know anyway. Cortese never saved our Club; Marcus Liebher saved our Club.Cortese works and lives for money and from his history, clearly enjoys the connections with celebrity that top level sport brings.Please look beyond what you believe you have witnessed over the last few years,which is such a short time in the Club's life.

At 52 I am old enough been going since 1968.. Marcus supplied the money at Nicola's request both are equally deserving of respect..as a businessman with a multi billion European conglomerate Marcus could not hands on run it and bless him if he had with no Cortese were would we be now?.. ..Marsus's demise without NC would have seen us slip back make no mistake... ... as a businessman I also understand the commercial facts of life we were brown bread no matter how illustrious our history... ...indeed history does not pay the bils ask pmuff ongoing success does ask Cortese!

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7:07pm Thu 7 Feb 13 angus mc coatup says…

angus mc coatup wrote…

warrens 76 wrote…

angus mc coatup wrote…

See that geezer who was trying to buy the skates,has got the elbow by the football league.The ongoing saga that Is farcemouth continues unabated. the liquidator awaits........
Do tell us more...I need cheering up..my blöödy hearts gone a bit bandy...
They have basically told the ckub that they won't listen to any more bids.So the Trust are their only hope....oh dear It's back in the fan's hands ( slowly shakes head) to fund It again.

ckub !! club.

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7:08pm Thu 7 Feb 13 warrens 76 says…

angus mc coatup wrote…

warrens 76 wrote…

angus mc coatup wrote…

See that geezer who was trying to buy the skates,has got the elbow by the football league.The ongoing saga that Is farcemouth continues unabated. the liquidator awaits........
Do tell us more...I need cheering up..my blöödy hearts gone a bit bandy...
They have basically told the ckub that they won't listen to any more bids.So the Trust are their only hope....oh dear It's back in the fan's hands ( slowly shakes head) to fund It again.

Feeling better already...actually decent pmuff fans it's bad for just never seem to meet any.

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7:08pm Thu 7 Feb 13 slugger says…

THEKILLER wrote…

The big boys (SFC) will always bully the small boys (Franny B) The bigger the company the more money they can throw at a legal claim the more likely it is that the small boys will give up as they cannot afford the costs, so give up even if they are in the right. In many cases paying more in legal cost than if would to settle the case just to say don't you dare question us we can do what we want, just as SFC have been doing for the last few years.

Perhaps he should have gone to a "no win no fee" company then ....... any reason why not ?

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7:16pm Thu 7 Feb 13 saintkenny says…

they just said on sky.the fa as said if they dont come out of admin ,by the end of the season they will be kicked out of the football league .so they have not got long

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7:16pm Thu 7 Feb 13 THEKILLER says…

slugger wrote…

THEKILLER wrote…

The big boys (SFC) will always bully the small boys (Franny B) The bigger the company the more money they can throw at a legal claim the more likely it is that the small boys will give up as they cannot afford the costs, so give up even if they are in the right. In many cases paying more in legal cost than if would to settle the case just to say don't you dare question us we can do what we want, just as SFC have been doing for the last few years.
Perhaps he should have gone to a "no win no fee" company then ....... any reason why not ?

From what little I know( and it is little) the case is being heard at some sort of trade body not a case that can be handled by no win no fee. The truth will come out soon ( it has been going on for quite a while)

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7:22pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Tye-Dye pt2 says…

st1halo wrote…

warrens 76 wrote…

To us MLT and to a lesser degree (much) FB are important to us fans... ....however what do/did they mean to NC and Marcus, were where they in our time of financial armaggedon, naively MLT believing the emporer with no clothes almost allowed us to run out of time.... ...so from NC's perspective they were not relevant to our last minute survival nor do they bring anything to the clubs future...tough but there it is..
Yep!

And through the dark clouds of club related musing's of both positive and negative comes a shaft of sunlight, well said warrens and it truly is how it is.

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7:23pm Thu 7 Feb 13 pompey in spain says…

disgusting!!!a football club involved with dishonesty,court proceedings,whatever next????????????

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7:27pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Baddesley Bill says…

After a long carppy day at work, this thread has cheered me up no end. I shall now take a look at the skunt site for my continued enjoyment. ps...who stole all the excamation marks..they seem to have to have been all used up (exclamation mark x 7) :O)

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7:30pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Bingo from Sholing says…

Tell it as I see it wrote…

Bingo from Sholing wrote…

Le Tiss, we know is all heart, and so is Franny. It is tempting to say move on from the bickering for the sake of the Club. However some things are more important than whether the club is in the Premiership or the Championship.Le Tiss I feel sure would always stand against the school bully. I feel sure too, that he is Southampton through and through. A Southampton boy who happens to come from an island with close ties with our great city. Le Tiss values people above money. Mr Cortese probably would not be able to understand those values. However Mr Cortese has to understand that a large part of the equity of the club he controls is a indefatigable human spirit, that is based upon generations of supporters and players. Mr Cortese will never be the chairman he longs to be until he recognises the value of people, and appreciates that football support relies on history, and relies on the people that made history. Le Tiss,Benali, Jim Steele; supporters like my dad (now deceased), your dad, grandfather, uncle etc and countless others are Southampton FC's history. They are there to be remembered and respected because they form part of the intrinsic value of the Club. This value does not show up in the balance sheet, but take it away and the club is worthless. Mr Cortese, please sit down with the past players of our club and sort this out, for all our sakes.
I totally respect your sentiments however there are problems with your reasoning. Terry Paine - newly appointed Club President. Jason Dodd - Well respected for his work with the youth team. John Sydenham has always been welcomed at the club when he visits the UK. Still visits regularly (usually as a guest of one or other of the exec box holders). It seems Mr Cortese only has issues with ex players who see fit to bad mouth him and/or the club in the press, now why on earth could that be?

Mr Cortese will be aware that in an entertainment business, there is no bad news. Only no news is bad news. He should also expect prominent ex-stars of SFC to have direct channels to the public psyche, through a hungry press. One way of handling the resulting media interest is to be aggressive, which is the chosen route of Mr Cortese.This seldom works as enemies only accumulate. That is where he finds himself at the moment. He will have to learn to win people over by persuasion, rather than picking up his ball, chosing those that pay lip service to his methods, and playing his game, his way, in his own backyard.

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7:32pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Suttonite says…

warrens 76 wrote…

Suttonite wrote…

warrens 76 wrote…

Suttonite wrote…

rocketone wrote…

Question for the borer. Why do you say ex-Saints players? There are several still working for the club. Terry Paine spring to mind? Troublemakers are not encouraged. Programme sellers? The replacements do exactly the same as before, just a lot more professionally. If you are going claim something as a fact then be prepared to give your source and evidence. There are people who post on here who know more than you do about some of the incidents you claim to have knowledge of.
If you believe you and others have knowledge and information that some of us who have supported the club for upto 50 years or more don't, then please give us the facts don't join in slandering genuine Saints people. Cortese will never be one of those even if Saints are very successful with him in his present role.
Suttonite, a man who saves us from disappearing will never be a genuine Saints person..are you insane or have you short term memory loss... ..I do not agree with the 'apparent' handling of Nigel Adkins BUT i would never accuse him of not having anything but the clubs best interest's at heart.. You for some reason would not give him credit if he set fire to hisnuts and put them out with a cricket bat for the clubs cause..ergo you are not a Saint just a WUM.
You really are so arrogant and are not able to understand the history, the culture or the facts.I am guessing from the way you write that youe are probably not old enough to know anyway. Cortese never saved our Club; Marcus Liebher saved our Club.Cortese works and lives for money and from his history, clearly enjoys the connections with celebrity that top level sport brings.Please look beyond what you believe you have witnessed over the last few years,which is such a short time in the Club's life.
At 52 I am old enough been going since 1968.. Marcus supplied the money at Nicola's request both are equally deserving of respect..as a businessman with a multi billion European conglomerate Marcus could not hands on run it and bless him if he had with no Cortese were would we be now?.. ..Marsus's demise without NC would have seen us slip back make no mistake... ... as a businessman I also understand the commercial facts of life we were brown bread no matter how illustrious our history... ...indeed history does not pay the bils ask pmuff ongoing success does ask Cortese!

At 52 and a business man, then you should know better! A lot of the comments here talk as though we are a League 1 team made good, rather than a club that had an unbroken 27-year stay in the top-flight. Money has been provided by Marcus Liebherr, his family and the sale of very talented players that have been developed by this club, mostly before he arrived. Cortese sacked, Pardew who the fans adored and was doing a decent job, sacked Adkins, who the fans adored and gained 2 promotions and was turning things around.He has probably signed the cheques for the purchase of Lambert, Cork and some others that have contributed along the way. However, he was probably responsible for the drawn out sagas with Ramirez and possibly Coutinho and others that have so far not proved significant in the advancement of the Club.He has upset a lot of loyal supporters, explayers, exmanagers, media and others with his totally unempathetic and disrespectful approach. Yes, success makes money and can't be achieved without it, but it's not his and he hasn't contributed in real terms.

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7:39pm Thu 7 Feb 13 elvisimo says…

Suttonite wrote…

warrens 76 wrote…

Suttonite wrote…

warrens 76 wrote…

Suttonite wrote…

rocketone wrote…

Question for the borer. Why do you say ex-Saints players? There are several still working for the club. Terry Paine spring to mind? Troublemakers are not encouraged. Programme sellers? The replacements do exactly the same as before, just a lot more professionally. If you are going claim something as a fact then be prepared to give your source and evidence. There are people who post on here who know more than you do about some of the incidents you claim to have knowledge of.
If you believe you and others have knowledge and information that some of us who have supported the club for upto 50 years or more don't, then please give us the facts don't join in slandering genuine Saints people. Cortese will never be one of those even if Saints are very successful with him in his present role.
Suttonite, a man who saves us from disappearing will never be a genuine Saints person..are you insane or have you short term memory loss... ..I do not agree with the 'apparent' handling of Nigel Adkins BUT i would never accuse him of not having anything but the clubs best interest's at heart.. You for some reason would not give him credit if he set fire to hisnuts and put them out with a cricket bat for the clubs cause..ergo you are not a Saint just a WUM.
You really are so arrogant and are not able to understand the history, the culture or the facts.I am guessing from the way you write that youe are probably not old enough to know anyway. Cortese never saved our Club; Marcus Liebher saved our Club.Cortese works and lives for money and from his history, clearly enjoys the connections with celebrity that top level sport brings.Please look beyond what you believe you have witnessed over the last few years,which is such a short time in the Club's life.
At 52 I am old enough been going since 1968.. Marcus supplied the money at Nicola's request both are equally deserving of respect..as a businessman with a multi billion European conglomerate Marcus could not hands on run it and bless him if he had with no Cortese were would we be now?.. ..Marsus's demise without NC would have seen us slip back make no mistake... ... as a businessman I also understand the commercial facts of life we were brown bread no matter how illustrious our history... ...indeed history does not pay the bils ask pmuff ongoing success does ask Cortese!
At 52 and a business man, then you should know better! A lot of the comments here talk as though we are a League 1 team made good, rather than a club that had an unbroken 27-year stay in the top-flight. Money has been provided by Marcus Liebherr, his family and the sale of very talented players that have been developed by this club, mostly before he arrived. Cortese sacked, Pardew who the fans adored and was doing a decent job, sacked Adkins, who the fans adored and gained 2 promotions and was turning things around.He has probably signed the cheques for the purchase of Lambert, Cork and some others that have contributed along the way. However, he was probably responsible for the drawn out sagas with Ramirez and possibly Coutinho and others that have so far not proved significant in the advancement of the Club.He has upset a lot of loyal supporters, explayers, exmanagers, media and others with his totally unempathetic and disrespectful approach. Yes, success makes money and can't be achieved without it, but it's not his and he hasn't contributed in real terms.

one probably and two possibly - supposition not fact. Because he does jump at every comment people make up what they like. Personally i hope he kees doing his thing and does not play up to the press or former employees.

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7:46pm Thu 7 Feb 13 MGRA says…

slugger wrote…

To be honest I don't give a flying fcuk about Francis Benali's house or what Nicola may have done to it , it's none of my business (or anyone elses on here) , I also don't really care if Nicola and Matt never sort their differences ........... What I DO care about is the club I support and they're going from strength to strength at the moment , as long as this continues i'll support our chairman totally ......... COYR !!!!!!

do you care about potential revenue growth for SFC and maximisation of opportnities when they arise ?

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7:48pm Thu 7 Feb 13 slugger says…

Suttonite wrote…

warrens 76 wrote…

Suttonite wrote…

warrens 76 wrote…

Suttonite wrote…

rocketone wrote…

Question for the borer. Why do you say ex-Saints players? There are several still working for the club. Terry Paine spring to mind? Troublemakers are not encouraged. Programme sellers? The replacements do exactly the same as before, just a lot more professionally. If you are going claim something as a fact then be prepared to give your source and evidence. There are people who post on here who know more than you do about some of the incidents you claim to have knowledge of.
If you believe you and others have knowledge and information that some of us who have supported the club for upto 50 years or more don't, then please give us the facts don't join in slandering genuine Saints people. Cortese will never be one of those even if Saints are very successful with him in his present role.
Suttonite, a man who saves us from disappearing will never be a genuine Saints person..are you insane or have you short term memory loss... ..I do not agree with the 'apparent' handling of Nigel Adkins BUT i would never accuse him of not having anything but the clubs best interest's at heart.. You for some reason would not give him credit if he set fire to hisnuts and put them out with a cricket bat for the clubs cause..ergo you are not a Saint just a WUM.
You really are so arrogant and are not able to understand the history, the culture or the facts.I am guessing from the way you write that youe are probably not old enough to know anyway. Cortese never saved our Club; Marcus Liebher saved our Club.Cortese works and lives for money and from his history, clearly enjoys the connections with celebrity that top level sport brings.Please look beyond what you believe you have witnessed over the last few years,which is such a short time in the Club's life.
At 52 I am old enough been going since 1968.. Marcus supplied the money at Nicola's request both are equally deserving of respect..as a businessman with a multi billion European conglomerate Marcus could not hands on run it and bless him if he had with no Cortese were would we be now?.. ..Marsus's demise without NC would have seen us slip back make no mistake... ... as a businessman I also understand the commercial facts of life we were brown bread no matter how illustrious our history... ...indeed history does not pay the bils ask pmuff ongoing success does ask Cortese!
At 52 and a business man, then you should know better! A lot of the comments here talk as though we are a League 1 team made good, rather than a club that had an unbroken 27-year stay in the top-flight. Money has been provided by Marcus Liebherr, his family and the sale of very talented players that have been developed by this club, mostly before he arrived. Cortese sacked, Pardew who the fans adored and was doing a decent job, sacked Adkins, who the fans adored and gained 2 promotions and was turning things around.He has probably signed the cheques for the purchase of Lambert, Cork and some others that have contributed along the way. However, he was probably responsible for the drawn out sagas with Ramirez and possibly Coutinho and others that have so far not proved significant in the advancement of the Club.He has upset a lot of loyal supporters, explayers, exmanagers, media and others with his totally unempathetic and disrespectful approach. Yes, success makes money and can't be achieved without it, but it's not his and he hasn't contributed in real terms.

Who says that warrens doesn't know better ................. your opinion is just that , an opinion .

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7:49pm Thu 7 Feb 13 slugger says…

MGRA wrote…

slugger wrote…

To be honest I don't give a flying fcuk about Francis Benali's house or what Nicola may have done to it , it's none of my business (or anyone elses on here) , I also don't really care if Nicola and Matt never sort their differences ........... What I DO care about is the club I support and they're going from strength to strength at the moment , as long as this continues i'll support our chairman totally ......... COYR !!!!!!
do you care about potential revenue growth for SFC and maximisation of opportnities when they arise ?

I believe Nicola is on that one .

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8:08pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Seedhouse the Unrepentant says…

SEPT

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8:16pm Thu 7 Feb 13 slugger says…

It's true ! .......... An FA statement says that it's the "PST" or nothing , if Pompey don't exit admin before the end of the season they'll be booted out of the league ............ much better news than the bilge on here ....... COYR !!!!

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8:26pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Baddesley Bill says…

slugger wrote…

It's true ! .......... An FA statement says that it's the "PST" or nothing , if Pompey don't exit admin before the end of the season they'll be booted out of the league ............ much better news than the bilge on here ....... COYR !!!!

Proof if proof were needed that a spat between an ex-player and a CEO isn't really all that.

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8:32pm Thu 7 Feb 13 warrens 76 says…

Pfc gone...a blot on the landscape scourged...now if we could just get rid of portsmuoth itself... Invite Brighton to choose the decorations and designs etc. Bournemouth to supply the beaches and girls... ...Southampton supplies the quality and the football...

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8:36pm Thu 7 Feb 13 J7junctionseven says…

slugger wrote…

To be honest I don't give a flying fcuk about Francis Benali's house or what Nicola may have done to it , it's none of my business (or anyone elses on here) , I also don't really care if Nicola and Matt never sort their differences ........... What I DO care about is the club I support and they're going from strength to strength at the moment , as long as this continues i'll support our chairman totally ......... COYR !!!!!!

I agree.....but can't find any exclamation marks to enable me to sound like I'm shouting....sorry about that...:o)

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8:39pm Thu 7 Feb 13 slugger says…

J7junctionseven wrote…

slugger wrote…

To be honest I don't give a flying fcuk about Francis Benali's house or what Nicola may have done to it , it's none of my business (or anyone elses on here) , I also don't really care if Nicola and Matt never sort their differences ........... What I DO care about is the club I support and they're going from strength to strength at the moment , as long as this continues i'll support our chairman totally ......... COYR !!!!!!
I agree.....but can't find any exclamation marks to enable me to sound like I'm shouting....sorry about that...:o)

Lol , you can use some of mine if you like .............. oh ..... iv'e run out .

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8:40pm Thu 7 Feb 13 warrens 76 says…

J7junctionseven wrote…

slugger wrote…

To be honest I don't give a flying fcuk about Francis Benali's house or what Nicola may have done to it , it's none of my business (or anyone elses on here) , I also don't really care if Nicola and Matt never sort their differences ........... What I DO care about is the club I support and they're going from strength to strength at the moment , as long as this continues i'll support our chairman totally ......... COYR !!!!!!
I agree.....but can't find any exclamation marks to enable me to sound like I'm shouting....sorry about that...:o)

Why is Trevor Eve always shouting!!! it's enough to wake the dead... Anyway we St Mary's will be rocking on saturday..regretably I am back in Switzerland...went to Wigan and watched the first half!

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8:41pm Thu 7 Feb 13 J7junctionseven says…

warrens 76 wrote…

Pfc gone...a blot on the landscape scourged...now if we could just get rid of portsmuoth itself... Invite Brighton to choose the decorations and designs etc. Bournemouth to supply the beaches and girls... ...Southampton supplies the quality and the football...

Love the idea of a South coast alliance to sos diy the dump down the road. What would we rename it though. Southbournton or Brightbournhampton.. .?

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8:44pm Thu 7 Feb 13 slugger says…

J7junctionseven wrote…

warrens 76 wrote…

Pfc gone...a blot on the landscape scourged...now if we could just get rid of portsmuoth itself... Invite Brighton to choose the decorations and designs etc. Bournemouth to supply the beaches and girls... ...Southampton supplies the quality and the football...
Love the idea of a South coast alliance to sos diy the dump down the road. What would we rename it though. Southbournton or Brightbournhampton.. .?

Saintbrightmouth ! ........ oh I found one .

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8:45pm Thu 7 Feb 13 warrens 76 says…

J7junctionseven wrote…

warrens 76 wrote…

Pfc gone...a blot on the landscape scourged...now if we could just get rid of portsmuoth itself... Invite Brighton to choose the decorations and designs etc. Bournemouth to supply the beaches and girls... ...Southampton supplies the quality and the football...
Love the idea of a South coast alliance to sos diy the dump down the road. What would we rename it though. Southbournton or Brightbournhampton.. .?

Southamptonsea.

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8:48pm Thu 7 Feb 13 angus mc coatup says…

warrens 76 wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

warrens 76 wrote…

Pfc gone...a blot on the landscape scourged...now if we could just get rid of portsmuoth itself... Invite Brighton to choose the decorations and designs etc. Bournemouth to supply the beaches and girls... ...Southampton supplies the quality and the football...
Love the idea of a South coast alliance to sos diy the dump down the road. What would we rename it though. Southbournton or Brightbournhampton.. .?
Southamptonsea.

southbrightbourne united.

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8:53pm Thu 7 Feb 13 warrens 76 says…

angus mc coatup wrote…

warrens 76 wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

warrens 76 wrote…

Pfc gone...a blot on the landscape scourged...now if we could just get rid of portsmuoth itself... Invite Brighton to choose the decorations and designs etc. Bournemouth to supply the beaches and girls... ...Southampton supplies the quality and the football...
Love the idea of a South coast alliance to sos diy the dump down the road. What would we rename it though. Southbournton or Brightbournhampton.. .?
Southamptonsea.
southbrightbourne united.

No No and thrice no...all football spoils belong to the victor..us! The name of the area though should rightfully reflect the assistance of Brighton and Bournemouth in cleaning up the inner city bomb site known as portsmuff... ...to this end BrightSouthBourne seems about right....of course there is a Southbourne so I shall start again.

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8:53pm Thu 7 Feb 13 slugger says…

angus mc coatup wrote…

warrens 76 wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

warrens 76 wrote…

Pfc gone...a blot on the landscape scourged...now if we could just get rid of portsmuoth itself... Invite Brighton to choose the decorations and designs etc. Bournemouth to supply the beaches and girls... ...Southampton supplies the quality and the football...
Love the idea of a South coast alliance to sos diy the dump down the road. What would we rename it though. Southbournton or Brightbournhampton.. .?
Southamptonsea.
southbrightbourne united.

WTFILN Athletic .

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8:55pm Thu 7 Feb 13 OSPREYSAINT says…

warrens 76 wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

warrens 76 wrote…

Pfc gone...a blot on the landscape scourged...now if we could just get rid of portsmuoth itself... Invite Brighton to choose the decorations and designs etc. Bournemouth to supply the beaches and girls... ...Southampton supplies the quality and the football...
Love the idea of a South coast alliance to sos diy the dump down the road. What would we rename it though. Southbournton or Brightbournhampton.. .?
Southamptonsea.

Solent City FC

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8:55pm Thu 7 Feb 13 J7junctionseven says…

Started something there... Southbrightbourne Utd could be a nightmare to sing if they ever get another football team there but sounds a nice place for a day out and ice cream

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8:57pm Thu 7 Feb 13 J7junctionseven says…

slugger wrote…

angus mc coatup wrote…

warrens 76 wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

warrens 76 wrote…

Pfc gone...a blot on the landscape scourged...now if we could just get rid of portsmuoth itself... Invite Brighton to choose the decorations and designs etc. Bournemouth to supply the beaches and girls... ...Southampton supplies the quality and the football...
Love the idea of a South coast alliance to sos diy the dump down the road. What would we rename it though. Southbournton or Brightbournhampton.. .?
Southamptonsea.
southbrightbourne united.
WTFILN Athletic .

like....:o)

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8:59pm Thu 7 Feb 13 J7junctionseven says…

What about ....Shalalalala on sea

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9:00pm Thu 7 Feb 13 warrens 76 says…

J7junctionseven wrote…

What about ....Shalalalala on sea

Best yet..!!!

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9:02pm Thu 7 Feb 13 TEBOURBA says…

Mark my words, Cortese will go the same way as that great example to the our country, Chris Huhne. Huhne has learnt that you can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time but you can't fool all the people all of the time--- shyster Cortese will learn it too --hopefully sooner rather than later. It is easy to see how shysters come to power with the happy clappies fauning over everything Cortese does as if he is blessed with the Pope's power of infallibilty. How soon the happy clappies have forgotten their heroes like NA,AP,LeTiss --well they say there's none so fickle as a football fan ---. this column proves it.

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9:03pm Thu 7 Feb 13 slugger says…

We could erect a sign at the entrance , "welcome to nowhere,it stinks"

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9:04pm Thu 7 Feb 13 OSPREYSAINT says…

J7junctionseven wrote…

slugger wrote…

To be honest I don't give a flying fcuk about Francis Benali's house or what Nicola may have done to it , it's none of my business (or anyone elses on here) , I also don't really care if Nicola and Matt never sort their differences ........... What I DO care about is the club I support and they're going from strength to strength at the moment , as long as this continues i'll support our chairman totally ......... COYR !!!!!!
I agree.....but can't find any exclamation marks to enable me to sound like I'm shouting....sorry about that...:o)

To show you are shouting you should use capitals, DON'T YOU KNOW NUFFING?

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9:05pm Thu 7 Feb 13 slugger says…

TEBOURBA wrote…

Mark my words, Cortese will go the same way as that great example to the our country, Chris Huhne. Huhne has learnt that you can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time but you can't fool all the people all of the time--- shyster Cortese will learn it too --hopefully sooner rather than later. It is easy to see how shysters come to power with the happy clappies fauning over everything Cortese does as if he is blessed with the Pope's power of infallibilty. How soon the happy clappies have forgotten their heroes like NA,AP,LeTiss --well they say there's none so fickle as a football fan ---. this column proves it.

How do you like our suggestions for your towns re naming ?

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9:09pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Baddesley Bill says…

TEBOURBA wrote…

Mark my words, Cortese will go the same way as that great example to the our country, Chris Huhne. Huhne has learnt that you can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time but you can't fool all the people all of the time--- shyster Cortese will learn it too --hopefully sooner rather than later. It is easy to see how shysters come to power with the happy clappies fauning over everything Cortese does as if he is blessed with the Pope's power of infallibilty. How soon the happy clappies have forgotten their heroes like NA,AP,LeTiss --well they say there's none so fickle as a football fan ---. this column proves it.

Wow...how twisted are you? Is there a psychologist in the house?

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9:09pm Thu 7 Feb 13 OSPREYSAINT says…

TEBOURBA wrote…

Mark my words, Cortese will go the same way as that great example to the our country, Chris Huhne. Huhne has learnt that you can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time but you can't fool all the people all of the time--- shyster Cortese will learn it too --hopefully sooner rather than later. It is easy to see how shysters come to power with the happy clappies fauning over everything Cortese does as if he is blessed with the Pope's power of infallibilty. How soon the happy clappies have forgotten their heroes like NA,AP,LeTiss --well they say there's none so fickle as a football fan ---. this column proves it.

Boring, repetetive, wrong, you are totally clueless. Are you a fickle football fan or just another wind up merchant posting to get attention? If so you are a poor specimen, with a one trick message, please go somewhere else where someone will actually believe your rubbish.

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9:13pm Thu 7 Feb 13 J7junctionseven says…

OSPREYSAINT wrote…

TEBOURBA wrote…

Mark my words, Cortese will go the same way as that great example to the our country, Chris Huhne. Huhne has learnt that you can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time but you can't fool all the people all of the time--- shyster Cortese will learn it too --hopefully sooner rather than later. It is easy to see how shysters come to power with the happy clappies fauning over everything Cortese does as if he is blessed with the Pope's power of infallibilty. How soon the happy clappies have forgotten their heroes like NA,AP,LeTiss --well they say there's none so fickle as a football fan ---. this column proves it.
Boring, repetetive, wrong, you are totally clueless. Are you a fickle football fan or just another wind up merchant posting to get attention? If so you are a poor specimen, with a one trick message, please go somewhere else where someone will actually believe your rubbish.

Somewhere like Shalalalalalalala on Sea...perhaps I NOTICE HE'S EVEN RUN OUT OF EXCLAMATION MARKS AS WELL.....:o)

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9:14pm Thu 7 Feb 13 slugger says…

Baddesley Bill wrote…

TEBOURBA wrote…

Mark my words, Cortese will go the same way as that great example to the our country, Chris Huhne. Huhne has learnt that you can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time but you can't fool all the people all of the time--- shyster Cortese will learn it too --hopefully sooner rather than later. It is easy to see how shysters come to power with the happy clappies fauning over everything Cortese does as if he is blessed with the Pope's power of infallibilty. How soon the happy clappies have forgotten their heroes like NA,AP,LeTiss --well they say there's none so fickle as a football fan ---. this column proves it.
Wow...how twisted are you? Is there a psychologist in the house?

I do know a berk by the way it writes ......... does that count ?

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9:19pm Thu 7 Feb 13 angus mc coatup says…

Baddesley Bill wrote…

TEBOURBA wrote…

Mark my words, Cortese will go the same way as that great example to the our country, Chris Huhne. Huhne has learnt that you can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time but you can't fool all the people all of the time--- shyster Cortese will learn it too --hopefully sooner rather than later. It is easy to see how shysters come to power with the happy clappies fauning over everything Cortese does as if he is blessed with the Pope's power of infallibilty. How soon the happy clappies have forgotten their heroes like NA,AP,LeTiss --well they say there's none so fickle as a football fan ---. this column proves it.
Wow...how twisted are you? Is there a psychologist in the house?

yeah me,and my diagnosis Is. tebourba is a rightkunt........... no cure. need to keep an eye on him though,he might overdose on exclaimation marks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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9:22pm Thu 7 Feb 13 loosehead says…

Suttonite wrote…

The reason that Franny is suing Saints is because Cortese is employed bySaints the rental would have been made by the Club. Franny was actually a decent left back in his time. All his games were at the top level. Matt is right to support him and his ex-colleagues.Cortes e is not a respectful man and is not the saviour of our Club. There is nothing wrong with Matt talking to the media has revealed nothing that was not already in the public arena.Most has been revealed by the Echo. All this agression towards Matt and Franny is totally out of order and probably mostly from those who are too young to understand the history of the Club or can't see beneath the surface of a very singleminded Italian businessman.

let's get it right I got fed up paying most of my wages following a team where the players walked out & looked as if they were still struggling from the morning after effect. i joint the TA but I still kept an eye on Saints results. I watched as the so called board of directors sold out the club to a company worth less than the club. I remember how the fans were so grateful to Rupert Lowe for St.Mary's but then saw how that changed & it was right to change as the guy didn't have a clue on how to run a sports company which is what Saints is. Did any fan put that debacle at the door of the real culprits? did we see pickets outside the directors houses who sold it to Lowe? NO we didn't. Then please explain to me how close did we get to closing down? From the reports in the papers & from some Saints fans CORTESE talked Liebher into buying this club so YES he is the SAVIOUR of this club. I was asked to go & play a sport I loved as a school boy so I did & the fans & players are far more dedicated to their clubs than football fans are. Last week you saw a great England team win against a full strength Scotland. I say go ahead turn on Cortese let him turn his back on the Saints let the Liebher family go then see if SouthamptonFC survives. let's see Franni come to the rescue after all he's Saints through & through isn't he? I'll carry on watching a great sport whilst looking at Saints results & see how long we'll end up like Pompey

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9:23pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Baddesley Bill says…

angus mc coatup wrote…

Baddesley Bill wrote…

TEBOURBA wrote…

Mark my words, Cortese will go the same way as that great example to the our country, Chris Huhne. Huhne has learnt that you can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time but you can't fool all the people all of the time--- shyster Cortese will learn it too --hopefully sooner rather than later. It is easy to see how shysters come to power with the happy clappies fauning over everything Cortese does as if he is blessed with the Pope's power of infallibilty. How soon the happy clappies have forgotten their heroes like NA,AP,LeTiss --well they say there's none so fickle as a football fan ---. this column proves it.
Wow...how twisted are you? Is there a psychologist in the house?
yeah me,and my diagnosis Is. tebourba is a rightkunt........... no cure. need to keep an eye on him though,he might overdose on exclaimation marks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm all out of exclamation marks...gonna have to contact my exclamation mark dealer :O(

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9:29pm Thu 7 Feb 13 OSPREYSAINT says…

Suttonite wrote…

warrens 76 wrote…

Suttonite wrote…

warrens 76 wrote…

Suttonite wrote…

rocketone wrote…

Question for the borer. Why do you say ex-Saints players? There are several still working for the club. Terry Paine spring to mind? Troublemakers are not encouraged. Programme sellers? The replacements do exactly the same as before, just a lot more professionally. If you are going claim something as a fact then be prepared to give your source and evidence. There are people who post on here who know more than you do about some of the incidents you claim to have knowledge of.
If you believe you and others have knowledge and information that some of us who have supported the club for upto 50 years or more don't, then please give us the facts don't join in slandering genuine Saints people. Cortese will never be one of those even if Saints are very successful with him in his present role.
Suttonite, a man who saves us from disappearing will never be a genuine Saints person..are you insane or have you short term memory loss... ..I do not agree with the 'apparent' handling of Nigel Adkins BUT i would never accuse him of not having anything but the clubs best interest's at heart.. You for some reason would not give him credit if he set fire to hisnuts and put them out with a cricket bat for the clubs cause..ergo you are not a Saint just a WUM.
You really are so arrogant and are not able to understand the history, the culture or the facts.I am guessing from the way you write that youe are probably not old enough to know anyway. Cortese never saved our Club; Marcus Liebher saved our Club.Cortese works and lives for money and from his history, clearly enjoys the connections with celebrity that top level sport brings.Please look beyond what you believe you have witnessed over the last few years,which is such a short time in the Club's life.
At 52 I am old enough been going since 1968.. Marcus supplied the money at Nicola's request both are equally deserving of respect..as a businessman with a multi billion European conglomerate Marcus could not hands on run it and bless him if he had with no Cortese were would we be now?.. ..Marsus's demise without NC would have seen us slip back make no mistake... ... as a businessman I also understand the commercial facts of life we were brown bread no matter how illustrious our history... ...indeed history does not pay the bils ask pmuff ongoing success does ask Cortese!
At 52 and a business man, then you should know better! A lot of the comments here talk as though we are a League 1 team made good, rather than a club that had an unbroken 27-year stay in the top-flight. Money has been provided by Marcus Liebherr, his family and the sale of very talented players that have been developed by this club, mostly before he arrived. Cortese sacked, Pardew who the fans adored and was doing a decent job, sacked Adkins, who the fans adored and gained 2 promotions and was turning things around.He has probably signed the cheques for the purchase of Lambert, Cork and some others that have contributed along the way. However, he was probably responsible for the drawn out sagas with Ramirez and possibly Coutinho and others that have so far not proved significant in the advancement of the Club.He has upset a lot of loyal supporters, explayers, exmanagers, media and others with his totally unempathetic and disrespectful approach. Yes, success makes money and can't be achieved without it, but it's not his and he hasn't contributed in real terms.

You have an annoying habit of turning facts into fantasy, we WERE a Division One Club, that has made good, who was responsible? You fail to mention the dark days of the Lowe era, have you forgotten them? Cortese sacked AP, hasn't done us any harm at all, he employed someone better, he has now dismissed NA, and perhaps we once again will have got someone even better, who you don't appear to want to give a chance to, why? NC may have upset some fans, some have taken it hard, most have got over it, but none to the extremes of yourself and Tebourba, with the largest chips on your shoulders ever seen in the Clubs history, why? The prime objective is to make enough money to keep the Clubs future secure, pussyfooting around will see an instant decline, if everyone took your attitude we would be back in mire, big time. You criticise, but you never make a postive contribution to the argument, think about it, why?

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9:34pm Thu 7 Feb 13 OSPREYSAINT says…

Baddesley Bill wrote…

angus mc coatup wrote…

Baddesley Bill wrote…

TEBOURBA wrote…

Mark my words, Cortese will go the same way as that great example to the our country, Chris Huhne. Huhne has learnt that you can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time but you can't fool all the people all of the time--- shyster Cortese will learn it too --hopefully sooner rather than later. It is easy to see how shysters come to power with the happy clappies fauning over everything Cortese does as if he is blessed with the Pope's power of infallibilty. How soon the happy clappies have forgotten their heroes like NA,AP,LeTiss --well they say there's none so fickle as a football fan ---. this column proves it.
Wow...how twisted are you? Is there a psychologist in the house?
yeah me,and my diagnosis Is. tebourba is a rightkunt........... no cure. need to keep an eye on him though,he might overdose on exclaimation marks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm all out of exclamation marks...gonna have to contact my exclamation mark dealer :O(

It would take up a lot of space but you always type (exclamation mark) at the end of the sentence, we would know what you meant (full stop)

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9:39pm Thu 7 Feb 13 OSPREYSAINT says…

MGRA wrote…

slugger wrote…

To be honest I don't give a flying fcuk about Francis Benali's house or what Nicola may have done to it , it's none of my business (or anyone elses on here) , I also don't really care if Nicola and Matt never sort their differences ........... What I DO care about is the club I support and they're going from strength to strength at the moment , as long as this continues i'll support our chairman totally ......... COYR !!!!!!
do you care about potential revenue growth for SFC and maximisation of opportnities when they arise ?

Do you?

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9:45pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Outside of the Box says…

Strasbourg Saint wrote…

Outside of the Box wrote…

As my old mum says,,,,Never hang your dirty washing out in public,,,,,Tiss got was given his meeting on the ground the meeting wasn't made public,,,,so he made it public,,,,lost his meeting,,,who is wrong? MLT. Cortese is an employee of the club, if the club rents a home and allows there employee to live in that home the club are responsible for the behaviour or any damage the employee causes the club are responsible,,,,if the landlord wants to sue, they should sue whoevers name is on the contract.,,,,by saying Franny Benali doesn't care about the club because he's suing them it wrong,,,,, Another saying from my old mum,,,2 wrongs don't make a right,,,,, On other news Keith Harris has said that he takes over the Skates,,,he will not allow Orville anywhere near Westwood,,,as he is worried about Westwood intentions towards his duck
Generally agree with your points. As for Orville, ducks eat fish, so I look forward to the outcome.

I thought a duck would choose any fish other than a Skate, especially a Skate as ugly as Westwood

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9:56pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Seedhouse the Unrepentant says…

Baddesley Bill wrote…

angus mc coatup wrote…

Baddesley Bill wrote…

TEBOURBA wrote…

Mark my words, Cortese will go the same way as that great example to the our country, Chris Huhne. Huhne has learnt that you can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time but you can't fool all the people all of the time--- shyster Cortese will learn it too --hopefully sooner rather than later. It is easy to see how shysters come to power with the happy clappies fauning over everything Cortese does as if he is blessed with the Pope's power of infallibilty. How soon the happy clappies have forgotten their heroes like NA,AP,LeTiss --well they say there's none so fickle as a football fan ---. this column proves it.
Wow...how twisted are you? Is there a psychologist in the house?
yeah me,and my diagnosis Is. tebourba is a rightkunt........... no cure. need to keep an eye on him though,he might overdose on exclaimation marks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm all out of exclamation marks...gonna have to contact my exclamation mark dealer :O(

Evening. How many would you like?

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10:00pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Invidia says…

Mr Tebourba I seriously take umbridge to your reference to the Pope I expect an apology to these remarks this is not a wind up but I am a Catholic and find your remarks extremely offensive and distressing.

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10:07pm Thu 7 Feb 13 OSPREYSAINT says…

Invidia wrote…

Mr Tebourba I seriously take umbridge to your reference to the Pope I expect an apology to these remarks this is not a wind up but I am a Catholic and find your remarks extremely offensive and distressing.

It is only a matter of time before he invokes Godwins Law, then he would only be left to upset the Pagans for a full house! (my last exclamation mark, hope it makes its mark)

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10:07pm Thu 7 Feb 13 J7junctionseven says…

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote…

Baddesley Bill wrote…

angus mc coatup wrote…

Baddesley Bill wrote…

TEBOURBA wrote…

Mark my words, Cortese will go the same way as that great example to the our country, Chris Huhne. Huhne has learnt that you can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time but you can't fool all the people all of the time--- shyster Cortese will learn it too --hopefully sooner rather than later. It is easy to see how shysters come to power with the happy clappies fauning over everything Cortese does as if he is blessed with the Pope's power of infallibilty. How soon the happy clappies have forgotten their heroes like NA,AP,LeTiss --well they say there's none so fickle as a football fan ---. this column proves it.
Wow...how twisted are you? Is there a psychologist in the house?
yeah me,and my diagnosis Is. tebourba is a rightkunt........... no cure. need to keep an eye on him though,he might overdose on exclaimation marks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm all out of exclamation marks...gonna have to contact my exclamation mark dealer :O(
Evening. How many would you like?

You'll have to break to BBB's cupboard like St1halo and angus mcoatup did. Or have you got a secret stash...

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10:09pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Baddesley Bill says…

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote…

Baddesley Bill wrote…

angus mc coatup wrote…

Baddesley Bill wrote…

TEBOURBA wrote…

Mark my words, Cortese will go the same way as that great example to the our country, Chris Huhne. Huhne has learnt that you can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time but you can't fool all the people all of the time--- shyster Cortese will learn it too --hopefully sooner rather than later. It is easy to see how shysters come to power with the happy clappies fauning over everything Cortese does as if he is blessed with the Pope's power of infallibilty. How soon the happy clappies have forgotten their heroes like NA,AP,LeTiss --well they say there's none so fickle as a football fan ---. this column proves it.
Wow...how twisted are you? Is there a psychologist in the house?
yeah me,and my diagnosis Is. tebourba is a rightkunt........... no cure. need to keep an eye on him though,he might overdose on exclaimation marks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm all out of exclamation marks...gonna have to contact my exclamation mark dealer :O(
Evening. How many would you like?

Sorry mate...your last batch was watered down with question marks and full stops ;O)

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10:11pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Seedhouse the Unrepentant says…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote…

Baddesley Bill wrote…

angus mc coatup wrote…

Baddesley Bill wrote…

TEBOURBA wrote…

Mark my words, Cortese will go the same way as that great example to the our country, Chris Huhne. Huhne has learnt that you can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time but you can't fool all the people all of the time--- shyster Cortese will learn it too --hopefully sooner rather than later. It is easy to see how shysters come to power with the happy clappies fauning over everything Cortese does as if he is blessed with the Pope's power of infallibilty. How soon the happy clappies have forgotten their heroes like NA,AP,LeTiss --well they say there's none so fickle as a football fan ---. this column proves it.
Wow...how twisted are you? Is there a psychologist in the house?
yeah me,and my diagnosis Is. tebourba is a rightkunt........... no cure. need to keep an eye on him though,he might overdose on exclaimation marks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm all out of exclamation marks...gonna have to contact my exclamation mark dealer :O(
Evening. How many would you like?
You'll have to break to BBB's cupboard like St1halo and angus mcoatup did. Or have you got a secret stash...

I'm out of !'s and L's. Have you seen the Echo have put the old biddy on the mobility scooter back up. Priceless!

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10:14pm Thu 7 Feb 13 Seedhouse the Unrepentant says…

Baddesley Bill wrote…

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote…

Baddesley Bill wrote…

angus mc coatup wrote…

Baddesley Bill wrote…

TEBOURBA wrote…

Mark my words, Cortese will go the same way as that great example to the our country, Chris Huhne. Huhne has learnt that you can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time but you can't fool all the people all of the time--- shyster Cortese will learn it too --hopefully sooner rather than later. It is easy to see how shysters come to power with the happy clappies fauning over everything Cortese does as if he is blessed with the Pope's power of infallibilty. How soon the happy clappies have forgotten their heroes like NA,AP,LeTiss --well they say there's none so fickle as a football fan ---. this column proves it.
Wow...how twisted are you? Is there a psychologist in the house?
yeah me,and my diagnosis Is. tebourba is a rightkunt........... no cure. need to keep an eye on him though,he might overdose on exclaimation marks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm all out of exclamation marks...gonna have to contact my exclamation mark dealer :O(
Evening. How many would you like?
Sorry mate...your last batch was watered down with question marks and full stops ;O)

Hope that's not a prelude for asking for a refund. If so sue me!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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10:17pm Thu 7 Feb 13 J7junctionseven says…

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote…

Baddesley Bill wrote…

angus mc coatup wrote…

Baddesley Bill wrote…

TEBOURBA wrote…

Mark my words, Cortese will go the same way as that great example to the our country, Chris Huhne. Huhne has learnt that you can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time but you can't fool all the people all of the time--- shyster Cortese will learn it too --hopefully sooner rather than later. It is easy to see how shysters come to power with the happy clappies fauning over everything Cortese does as if he is blessed with the Pope's power of infallibilty. How soon the happy clappies have forgotten their heroes like NA,AP,LeTiss --well they say there's none so fickle as a football fan ---. this column proves it.
Wow...how twisted are you? Is there a psychologist in the house?
yeah me,and my diagnosis Is. tebourba is a rightkunt........... no cure. need to keep an eye on him though,he might overdose on exclaimation marks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm all out of exclamation marks...gonna have to contact my exclamation mark dealer :O(
Evening. How many would you like?
You'll have to break to BBB's cupboard like St1halo and angus mcoatup did. Or have you got a secret stash...
I'm out of !'s and L's. Have you seen the Echo have put the old biddy on the mobility scooter back up. Priceless!

You big tease, you said you didn't have any and then casually chuck one on the end of your post.....you're holding out on us to try and push the price up. You fiend...:o)

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10:19pm Thu 7 Feb 13 J7junctionseven says…

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote…

Baddesley Bill wrote…

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote…

Baddesley Bill wrote…

angus mc coatup wrote…

Baddesley Bill wrote…

TEBOURBA wrote…

Mark my words, Cortese will go the same way as that great example to the our country, Chris Huhne. Huhne has learnt that you can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time but you can't fool all the people all of the time--- shyster Cortese will learn it too --hopefully sooner rather than later. It is easy to see how shysters come to power with the happy clappies fauning over everything Cortese does as if he is blessed with the Pope's power of infallibilty. How soon the happy clappies have forgotten their heroes like NA,AP,LeTiss --well they say there's none so fickle as a football fan ---. this column proves it.
Wow...how twisted are you? Is there a psychologist in the house?
yeah me,and my diagnosis Is. tebourba is a rightkunt........... no cure. need to keep an eye on him though,he might overdose on exclaimation marks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm all out of exclamation marks...gonna have to contact my exclamation mark dealer :O(
Evening. How many would you like?
Sorry mate...your last batch was watered down with question marks and full stops ;O)
Hope that's not a prelude for asking for a refund. If so sue me!!!!!!!!!!!!!

See....I was right. You've got loads..

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10:19pm Thu 7 Feb 13 angus mc coatup says…

J7junctionseven wrote…

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote…

Baddesley Bill wrote…

angus mc coatup wrote…

Baddesley Bill wrote…

TEBOURBA wrote…

Mark my words, Cortese will go the same way as that great example to the our country, Chris Huhne. Huhne has learnt that you can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time but you can't fool all the people all of the time--- shyster Cortese will learn it too --hopefully sooner rather than later. It is easy to see how shysters come to power with the happy clappies fauning over everything Cortese does as if he is blessed with the Pope's power of infallibilty. How soon the happy clappies have forgotten their heroes like NA,AP,LeTiss --well they say there's none so fickle as a football fan ---. this column proves it.
Wow...how twisted are you? Is there a psychologist in the house?
yeah me,and my diagnosis Is. tebourba is a rightkunt........... no cure. need to keep an eye on him though,he might overdose on exclaimation marks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm all out of exclamation marks...gonna have to contact my exclamation mark dealer :O(
Evening. How many would you like?
You'll have to break to BBB's cupboard like St1halo and angus mcoatup did. Or have you got a secret stash...

My name is angus, and I'm was an exclamation markaholic.I started with full stops,and then moved on to commas.then got hooked on question marks, (they are really addictive).I really hit rock bottom when I started using back slashes.... (a real low point ) but after some treatment ( strongbow and wine ) I'm happy to say I'm completely recovered !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!?????? //////// whoops ! sorry fell off the wagon there